well we are building a smaller variant of the t-26 to make up for the low orders of the larger type. so theres and option. mmm.... i read that the first 2 90b's did not have the mesma but the final one did and later on the other 2 would get it. well if you say otherwise so i shall buy it.
Dude, type 45 is way above Pakistan's league both in terms of cost and tech. In fact apart from Japan, China, S.Korea and India, i don't see any country in Asia who has a large enough budget/economy and industrial capability to operate such an advanced/expensive destroyer.
I know it's expensive but it was offered and if not UK than China but we would go for destroyers soonDude, type 45 is way above Pakistan's league both in terms of cost and tech. In fact apart from Japan, China, S.Korea and India, i don't see any country in Asia who has a large enough budget/economy and industrial capability to operate such an advanced/expensive destroyer.
The type 45 cost us almost $1.4billion dollar each.
Plus only the U.S(Zumwalt) and U.K(type 45) have destroyers that use integrated full electric propulsion as of today. So Pakistan should focus on other less advanced but modern and competitive frigates we have like type 23
it setting us back a billion big ones to replace the engines for 6 of themDude, type 45 is way above Pakistan's league both in terms of cost and tech. In fact apart from Japan, China, S.Korea and India, i don't see any country in Asia who has a large enough budget/economy and industrial capability to operate such an advanced/expensive destroyer.
The type 45 cost us almost $1.4billion dollar each.
Plus only the U.S(Zumwalt) and U.K(type 45) have destroyers that use integrated full electric propulsion as of today. So Pakistan should focus on other less advanced but modern and competitive frigates we have like type 23
Pakistan should go for type 23. We would be decommissioning them about 2 decades from now. The first(HMS Argyll) will be in 2023 and last ship(HMS St Albans) will be decommissioned in 2036
Yes the type 45 are expensive even for the U.K, reason we built just half(6) of what we originally planned.Never mind that we have the world's third largest defence budget when they were built/entered service.
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Indeed Sir (Y)Our Type 23 is one of the best frigates and anti-sub platform) in the world even today.
Type23 Weapons, countermeasures, capabilities and sensors
HMS Montrose fires her Sea Wolf missiles.
HMS Richmond firing a Harpoonanti-ship missile.
HMS Northumberland fires her 4.5 inch Mark 8 naval gun.
Anti-air warfare
A 32-cell Sea Wolf GWS.26 VLS canisters for up-to 32:
- A BAE Systems Type 996 Mod 1, 3D surveillance and target indication radar.
- Two Marconi Electronic Systems Type 911 fire control radars.
The Type 996 Mod 1, 3D surveillance and target indication radar is being replaced on all Type 23 frigates by the more capable Type 997 Artisan 3D radar.
- Sea Wolf missiles (range 1–10 km)
Anti-ship warfare
An embarked helicopter is equipped with its own dipping sonar, sonobuoys and radars.
- 2× 4 Harpoon anti-ship missile launchers for a total of 8 Harpoon anti-ship missiles.
- 1× BAE Systems 4.5 inch Mark 8 naval gun has an anti-ship role.
- Up-to one embarked Westland Lynx helicopter can be equipped with 4× Sea Skua anti-ship missiles.
Anti-submarine warfare
Land-attack
- A Thales Underwater Systems Type 2050 bow sonar.
- An Ultra Electronics Type 2031Z towed sonar on five of the Type 23 frigates.
- A Type 2087 towed sonar on eight of the Type 23 frigate.
- 2× twin 12.75 in (324 mm) tubes for anti-submarine Sting Ray torpedoes. The tubes are magazine reloaded.
- Up-to one embarked Westland Lynx or one AgustaWestland EH101 helicopter can be equipped with 2-4× anti-submarine Sting Ray torpedoes respectively.
Guns
- 1× BAE Systems 4.5 inch Mark 8 naval gun has a naval gunfire support (NGS) role.
Countermeasures
- 1× BAE Systems 4.5 inch Mark 8 naval gun.
- 2× 30mm DS30M Mark 2 Automated Small Calibre Guns or 30mm DS30B guns.
- 2× Miniguns.
- 4× General-purpose machine guns.
Electronic Systems
- The Seagnat decoy system allows for the seduction and distraction of radar guided weapons, through active and passive means.
- Type 182 towed torpedo decoys.
- Type 2070 towed torpedo decoy system.
- Thales defence Scorpion Electronic Counter Measures/UAF-1 ESM Jammer. Used to confuse or block enemy radar making the Type 23 frigate harder to detect and or locked onto by enemy radar/sonar guided weapons.
Additional capabilities
- Navigation: Kelvin Hughes Radar Type 1007 and Racal Decca Type 1008.
- fire-control system: Sperry Sea Archer 30 optronic surveillance/director'
- Combat Management System: BAE Systems Command System DNA(1)'
- The Type 23 frigates have sufficient space to embark a small detachment of Royal Marines and their equipment.
Ell apart from fancy uniform and medals if they do sensible thinking for pak navy and buy bigger better newer ships and helos
