Pak Army isn't capable of fighting and Bajwa's Kashmir deal with India

[Warking]

WTF do you mean they cant fight look at Ukraine who are not even military a 10th of us being a hurdle to Russia. Pakistan is very capable to win a defensive war with India with no doubt support from China. Ballless generals afraid of protecting the nation we should tell them to pack up and move thier families to India fucking cucks.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In the clip posted in the first post of this threat, Hamid Mir confirms that Bajwa and Faiz Hameed were planning Modi's visit to Pakistan after ceasefire at LOC. This effort was thwarted by Foreign Office.
The other anchor, Naseem Zahra also corroborated that Bajwa briefed Journalists that Pakistan's Army is in no shape to fight India so we need to make friends with them.

Back in December 2022, Moeed Pirzada also revealed that that Gen. Bajwa had a discussion with an American business delegation in Februray 2022 and in that meeting he informed Americans that he had arranged trade with India back in 2021 but SMQ lobbied against it in cabinet. There was also a mentioned of Modi's visit to Sindh during that meeting between Bajwa and American delegation.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @PanzerKiel

IF Pakistan is no shape to fight india, india would have invaded Pakistan long ago. Sounds like more sensationalist tripe. russia was supposed to have invaded and coconquered the whole of ukraine in 3 weeks, yet 14 months later, the ukrainians have bought the russians to their knees and thoroughly humiliated them.

Should we start judging the ex Army Chief on comments by 2 media anchors who may or may not even have understood what Bajwa explained to them? I refuse to believe that Bajwa would have told them our Tanks and Jets don't function but I absolutely believe that Bajwa would have told them that we would not be in a position to take on India in a prolonged conflict as the West, especially the US, would immediately impose sanctions and parts and armaments for most of our US centric Weapons would not be available.

Furthermore, who in his/her right mind believes that we can win a war against India? In which history have we ever won a war against India? Especially when today's India is so much more advanced, armed to the teeth with top western equipment and financially atleast 10x stronger than Pakistan?

And finally, what exactly is the Kashmir solution? Other to accept the de facto LoC as IB on which convincing India is a feat deserving the NOBEL peace prize; what realistically is the solution, pray tell?

Everyone said exactly that when russia invaded ukraine.........

Can you post the links to the credible evidence of Pakistan never having won a war against india? No indian fake news sources that you have been reading...........:

BBC launches Disinformation Unit in India

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Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe'

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[Crimson Blue]

IF Pakistan is no shape to fight india, india would have invaded Pakistan long ago. Sounds like more sensationalist tripe.

Who knows what is the reality on the ground.

But this thread is about the statements of Chief of Pakistani Army that he made to various journalists (of different backgrounds) on more than one occasion and also to an American delegation.

May be you people on this thread knows strategy of Pakistani army better than COAS.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

IF Pakistan is no shape to fight india, india would have invaded Pakistan long ago. Sounds like more sensationalist tripe. russia was supposed to have invaded and coconquered the whole of ukraine in 3 weeks, yet 14 months later, the ukrainians have bought the russians to their knees and thoroughly humiliated them.

Do you think that West would open their war chest and keep on supporting Pakistan with seemingly endless supply of Financial and Military aid like Ukraine?

 

[Mav3rick]

IF Pakistan is no shape to fight india, india would have invaded Pakistan long ago. Sounds like more sensationalist tripe. russia was supposed to have invaded and coconquered the whole of ukraine in 3 weeks, yet 14 months later, the ukrainians have bought the russians to their knees and thoroughly humiliated them.



Everyone said exactly that when russia invaded ukraine.........

Can you post the links to the credible evidence of Pakistan never having won a war against india? No indian fake news sources that you have been reading...........:

BBC launches Disinformation Unit in India

BBC News has launched a new Disinformation Unit in India to uncover, analyse and report on the spread of fake news.

www.bbc.com

Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe'

Fake sites and groups lobbying for India influenced decision makers in Europe, researchers say.

www.google.co.uk

How unfortunate that you bring in example of Ukraine to respond to my post when evidently you missed the point that the West has poured in tens of Billions of USD worth of top line weaponry in aid to Ukraine and it continues to pour in weapons and armaments for Ukrainians whereas if we ever go to war the same West would most likely impose sanctions on Pakistan after which we will be starved of parts and armaments for most of our West centric weapon systems. Plus the fact that the West is helping Ukraine with all kinds of financial assistance whereas Pakistan was on the verge of default and bankruptcy (even today the threat looms on us) and hence literally cannot afford to go to war.

Do you think that West would open their war chest and keep on supporting Pakistan with seemingly endless supply of Financial and Military aid like Ukraine?

Exactly what I wish to convey to those who are so stupid and nonsense that they are comparing Ukraine's position to that of Pakistan!!

 

[Crimson Blue]

Should we start judging the ex Army Chief on comments by 2 media anchors who may or may not even have understood what Bajwa explained to them?

Similar claims were made by Moeed Pirzada about 4 months ago, in a different context. He also mentioned about Modi's visit that was Echoed by Hamid Mir.

And then read following:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1649634764771475457

 

[Mav3rick]

WTF do you mean they cant fight look at Ukraine who are not even military a 10th of us being a hurdle to Russia. Pakistan is very capable to win a defensive war with India with no doubt support from China. Ballless generals afraid of protecting the nation we should tell them to pack up and move thier families to India fucking cucks.

And we are supposed to retake Kashmir with a defensive war?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

How unfortunate that you bring in example of Ukraine to respond to my post when evidently you missed the point that the West has poured in tens of Billions of USD worth of top line weaponry in aid to Ukraine and it continues to pour in weapons and armaments for Ukrainians whereas if we ever go to war the same West would most likely impose sanctions on Pakistan after which we will be starved of parts and armaments for most of our West centric weapon systems. Plus the fact that the West is helping Ukraine with all kinds of financial assistance whereas Pakistan was on the verge of default and bankruptcy (even today the threat looms on us) and hence literally cannot afford to go to war.

.........are you sure you okay?..........do you EVEN think the indian military is in the same league as russia?????....................have you even had the aptitude to consider that the Chinese who can now manufacture advanced weapons systems to a high standard, would supply Pakistan with enough high tech weapons in order to defeat the indians? ..............

 

[mangochutney]

I’ve seen more fight from a toy soldier being ripped out of he’s toy packaging than from a Pakistani general

 

[Mav3rick]

Similar claims were made by Moeed Pirzada about 4 months ago, in a different context. He also mentioned about Modi's visit that was Echoed by Hamid Mir.

And then read following:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1649634764771475457

All I am saying is that perhaps Bajwa tried to explain the reality that Pakistan is in no position to go to war against India, especially on account of Kashmir, as such an offensive war would immediately result in imposition of global sanctions on Pakistan including on supply of arms and weapons to Pakistan after which our Jets will eventually be grounded after running out of armaments and spares amongst other West centric equipment.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Do you think that West would open their war chest and keep on supporting Pakistan with seemingly endless supply of Financial and Military aid like Ukraine?

No, but the Chinese would.........that would be extremely fatal for india as india is NOWHERE in the same league as russia militarily........

 

[Trango Towers]

WTF do you mean they cant fight look at Ukraine who are not even military a 10th of us being a hurdle to Russia. Pakistan is very capable to win a defensive war with India with no doubt support from China. Ballless generals afraid of protecting the nation we should tell them to pack up and move thier families to India fucking cucks.

Not Ukraine but NATO.
Let's see Ukraine fight without western satellite Intel. Nato special forces. And the continual and endless supply of weapons.

Now pakistan will have sanctions both military and economic during any war with against anyone

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

All I am saying is that perhaps Bajwa tried to explain the reality that Pakistan is in no position to go to war against India, especially on account of Kashmir, as such an offensive war would immediately result in imposition of global sanctions on Pakistan including on supply of arms and weapons to Pakistan after which our Jets will eventually be grounded after running out of armaments and spares amongst other West centric equipment.

Yeah because the West supplies Pakistan with so much weaponry nowadays and the Chinese don't................

 

[N.Siddiqui]

A deal for a DHA at Srinagar can make the property developers drool and they can go for any length.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Not Ukraine but NATO.
Let's see Ukraine fight without western satellite Intel. Nato special forces. And the continual and endless supply of weapons.

Now pakistan will have sanctions both military and economic during any war with against anyone

We don't need special forces soldiers from other nations. We have enough hard-men in Pakistan to be able to defeat the indians. The West will not help us but the Chinese will and they are the new global superpower ........