PAF's possible answer to MRCA

[tjpf]

We are all in for a SHOCK and wake up call.

In just over a Month the IAF are about to sign on the dotted line for biggest fighter deal that EUROPE has ever concluded.

WE ARE TALKING $20 BILLION. These aere sort of numbers that will send shivers down potential advesaries spine.

WE are not talking a meek mild intial order of 30-40 planes we are talking 189 fighters

We are talking AESA radar, meteore BVR missles and 5th generation avinonics ALL WITH TOT all with license build facility in INDIA...

The TYPHOON is coming we are beginning to see what a $2 trillion GDP means in terms of purchasing power...

However i believe the bulk of these awesome fighters will be based in the NORTHERN bases and not against PAF in the WEST.

PS

To those who keep pointing out PAK THUNDERS & AWACS let me give you a equation

270 su30mki, mirage2000, mig29m/k with 3 Phalcon AWACS versis 100 JFT/F16/52/MLU with saab awacs x 4 = WHAT ????

Answer 3-1 favour of india at a minimum in fire power

POSSIBLY 4-1 DUE to IAF having the better AWACS and better marquee fighter...

you can shout as loud as you want but they believe otherwise

 

[Areesh]

And with which weapon in IAF arsenal you are going to do that?

Wit that weapon which has a "shining" and "illustrious" development history like LCA and isn't even operational with the the producing country yet.

 

[danger007]

Wit that weapon which has a "shining" and "illustrious" development history like LCA and isn't even operational with the the producing country yet.

We know who is living delusional life. atleast we tried, getting result even slowly, and you are just commenting on us. keep it up.

 

[tjpf]

Wit that weapon which has a "shining" and "illustrious" development history like LCA and isn't even operational with the the producing country yet.

You are chest thumping with JF17 blk2 and FC-20 which are yet to arrive, don't you believe you can take down IAF!!!!!

Give us time guys whats the hurry!!!

 

[Luftwaffe]

No you are undermining our jets.
e.g. JF17 with low rcs with AWACS can take down MKI!!!! We also have AWACS please don't forget that.

Here is question for you. Are you going to send AEW&C into Pakistan Airspace?
Have you heard "Planning for Airspace Control in the Combat Zone" Do you know what it is. I suggest you read this it will clear you mind and understand sending mkis is to take on become hero is not an easy task, over enemy airspace you are going to find it hard the best of the best would come out of such a situation its all about timing its all about how reactive and active the pilots are, the enemy will not just send diamond formation they will make sure they cut you off and take you deep into their airspace to engage which is no point of return it is either you runaway or fight to death.
http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/jp-doctrine/jp3_52%2895%29.pdf

 

[GURU DUTT]

Here is question for you. Are you going to send AEW&C into Pakistan Airspace?
Have you heard "Planning for Airspace Control in the Combat Zone" Do you know what it is. I suggest you read this it will clear you mind and understand sending mkis is to take on become hero is not an easy task, over enemy airspace you are going to find it hard the best of the best would come out of such a situation its all about timing its all about how reactive and active the pilots are, the enemy will not just send diamond formation they will make sure they cut you off and take you deep into their airspace to engage which is no point of return it is either you runaway or fight to death.
http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/jp-doctrine/jp3_52%2895%29.pdf

Pardon my ignorence sir but i think a very senior pakistani member once on this forum explaind that owr awacs are far more superior as they are command & control (they can transmit data directly to fighter planes which saves time)also & yours have do give data to ground control first & then itsguven to the fighter planes & stuff and if owr AWACS say is flying well within(50km)owr border it can still cover all pakistani airspace ,ps forgive me if im wrong and kindly describe the facts according to you Thanks Again .

 

[tjpf]

Here is question for you. Are you going to send AEW&C into Pakistan Airspace?
Have you heard "Planning for Airspace Control in the Combat Zone" Do you know what it is. I suggest you read this it will clear you mind and understand sending mkis is to take on become hero is not an easy task, over enemy airspace you are going to find it hard the best of the best would come out of such a situation its all about timing its all about how reactive and active the pilots are, the enemy will not just send diamond formation they will make sure they cut you off and take you deep into their airspace to engage which is no point of return it is either you runaway or fight to death.
http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/jp-doctrine/jp3_52%2895%29.pdf

dude with upgraded Jaguar, Mig 29, Mirage, Navy Mig 29, Bison and of course MKI do you think we will have trouble destroying PAF. Of course won't be easy though but quantity wise and quality wise we are ahead than PAF.
Let AWACS fly near the border with some escort!!!

What would PAF's aim would be to stop the onslaught of IAF (being the aggressor) or destroy our AWACS!!!!!!!

 

[Areesh]

We know who is living delusional life. atleast we tried, getting result even slowly, and you are just commenting on us. keep it up.

Yeah yeah. I love that you are trying. And want you to keep trying and trying and trying.

You are chest thumping with JF17 blk2 and FC-20 which are yet to arrive, don't you believe you can take down IAF!!!!!

Give us time guys whats the hurry!!!

Or I can twist it and say you are chest thumping on a weapon which is yet to become operational. Don't teach us buddy, we know what we are talking about.

 

[danger007]

Yeah yeah. I love that you are trying. And want you to keep trying and trying and trying.



Or I can twist it and say you are chest thumping on a weapon which is yet to become operational. Don't teach us buddy, we know what we are talking about.

yeah yeah i don't support those whom call JF-17 as junk fighter 17. your procurement is depending on some other concerns. If US senate agrees to give F-16 blk 52 you people make party, But we reject more advanced F-16 blk 60 with AESA and F/A -18 SH. later US offered F-35 waiting for our response, atleast you are not getting the difference between India and Pakistan.

 

[tjpf]

Or I can twist it and say you are chest thumping on a weapon which is yet to become operational. Don't teach us buddy, we know what we are talking about.[/QUOTE]

if only you could learn and understand

tell that to pakistani who chest thump about JF17 blk2, FC-20, Al khalid blk2!!!!!!!!!

 

[Areesh]

if only you could learn and understand

If it is an advice. It is mutual.

 

[tjpf]

If it is an advice. It is mutual.

we do that's why from a poor nation we have developed into a fast growing developing nation(of course many social problems are to be addressed- in time).
Our growth increases exponentially every year.

so not mutual.

 

[Areesh]

yeah yeah i don't support those whom call JF-17 as junk fighter 17.

Good if you don't.

But we reject more advanced F-16 blk 60 with AESA and F/A -18 SH. and US offered F-35 waiting for our response, atleast you are not getting the difference between India and Pakistan.

Good for you.

 

[DARKY]

Here is question for you. Are you going to send AEW&C into Pakistan Airspace?
Have you heard "Planning for Airspace Control in the Combat Zone" Do you know what it is. I suggest you read this it will clear you mind and understand sending mkis is to take on become hero is not an easy task, over enemy airspace you are going to find it hard the best of the best would come out of such a situation its all about timing its all about how reactive and active the pilots are, the enemy will not just send diamond formation they will make sure they cut you off and take you deep into their airspace to engage which is no point of return it is either you runaway or fight to death.
http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/jp-doctrine/jp3_52%2895%29.pdf

Do we need to send our AWACS in Pakistani air space ??
With phalcons flying in Amritsar we can can still keep complete survialnce of Pakistani airspace over Lahore, Multan, Sargodha, Islamabad all the way to Peshawar and Afghan border... the only place to hide is left in balochistan near Iran boder... unfortunately even Iran has been offering basing facilities in their territories along with Afghanistan and Tajikistan... If needed those left over areas would also be covered by an AWACS in Arabian sea or Afghanistan well flanked by Mig 29s or Su 30s.

 

[Areesh]

we do that's why from a poor nation we have developed into a fast growing developing nation(of course many social problems are to be addressed- in time).
Our growth increases exponentially every year.

so not mutual.

From MRCA to economy and what not. Blah Blah blah. Sorry not interested.