PAF's New Challenge : India Ordering, Modernizing SU-30MKIs

[Cheetah786]

PAFs new challenge will be to stop their pilots from taking voluntary retirements

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

We have our own doctrine and countering PAF is not on cards....'Countering' is done by PAF against IAF...we have long back left this 'Countering' ideology in our armed forces. We just dish you out challenges that you want to counter.

 

[Cheetah786]

We have our own doctrine and countering PAF is not on cards....'Countering' is done by PAF against IAF...we have long back left this 'Countering' ideology in our armed forces. We just dish you out challenges that you want to counter.

L O L are you sure as the thread starter is an Indian who also came up with the header PAF's New Challenge : India Ordering, Modernizing SU-30MKIs

 

[Screambowl]

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

Pakistan faces only one nuclear power at border and India faces two. VAST difference!!!!!

 

[satishkumarcsc]

L O L are you sure as the thread starter is an Indian who also came up with the header PAF's New Challenge : India Ordering, Modernizing SU-30MKIs

And he did mention the word 'Challenge' in it as I told you.

 

[Sergi]

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

But why in the world many of Defence experts say that PAF will be defending the airspace than attacking ??? Correct me if I am wrong. Your post made me think that only PAF is capable of taking down entire IAF

I really don't understand whats with Pak posters here. Why in the world you guies think Indian pilots aren't capable enough ??? IAF train and practice with the best of best. PAF does that with China only. Still you guies are better why ???

 

[Cheetah786]

Pakistan faces only one nuclear power at border and India faces two. VAST difference!!!!!

Before ganging up on me as i have said before it isn't a Pakistani that made this thread ON Pakistani defense forum its an Indian plus whole thread is full trying to compare sizes.i am well aware the fronts India faces so if u wanna explain this you might wanna start that at home.

 

[Cheetah786]

But why in the world many of Defence experts say that PAF will be defending the airspace than attacking ??? Correct me if I am wrong. Your post made me think that only PAF is capable of taking down entire IAF

I really don't understand whats with Pak posters here. Why in the world you guys think Indian pilots aren't capable enough ??? IAF train and practice with the best of best. PAF does that with China only. Still you guy are better why ???

Thread starter is a Indian not a Pakistani Most posters who were flying all high and mighty on this topic are Indians so again start at home with this advice don't look at me.as far as defending the air skies is concern our whole military is designed as a defensive force not an aggressive one.

I really like this They hide and wait till some one answer the thread and all jump on one from all sides give me freaking break wanna give advise start at home.

Your post made me think that only PAF is capable of taking down entire IAF

You having an Selective eye eight isn't my problem read it without the defend the Indian at all cost glasses and you will see who was making that claim.

 

[Screambowl]

Before ganging up on me as i have said before it isn't a Pakistani that made this thread ON Pakistani defense forum its an Indian plus whole thread is full trying to compare sizes.i am well aware the fronts India faces so if u wanna explain this you might wanna start that at home.

you apparently said that India is modernizing Su's JUST to shoot down PAF JF17. Are you trying to say or your are saying that Indian pilots are bad?

 

[Cheetah786]

you apparently said that India is modernizing Su's JUST to shoot down PAF JF17. Are you trying to say or your are saying that Indian pilots are bad?

You cant read and understand its not my problem if u wanna understand my post read the whole thread not just the parts u wanna read or S t f U. i am not going to keep repeating my self over and over again.

 

[Sergi]

Thread starter is a Indian not a Pakistani Most posters who were flying all high and mighty on this topic are Indians so again start at home with this advice don't look at me.as far as defending the air skies is concern our whole military is designed as a defensive force not an aggressive one.

I really like this They hide and wait till some one answer the thread and all jump on one from all sides give me freaking break wanna give advise start at home.



You having an Selective eye eight isn't my problem read it without the defend the Indian at all cost glasses and you will see who was making that claim.

Cool dude I am not at all interested in mud business. I was just asking. If you don't want to answer skip no problem won't bother you.
I am not blaming you for starting the thread
I am not interested in your whatsoever discussion with other member
I am reffering to your particular post and just want a normal answer.
And this isn't the only thread. You go throgh as many as threads you want. The most commonly line your bye our Pak members is " finally it's IAF pilots whose gona fly"
If you can answer why in general Pak members think IAF pilots are ducks. And am not cornering you or cherry picking your post but a answer would be good. If you think I have Indian eyes please tell me throgh your eyes what I am missing

 

[Screambowl]

You cant read and understand its not my problem if u wanna understand my post read the whole thread not just the parts u wanna read or S t f U. i am not going to keep repeating my self over and over again.

so according to you PAF pilots do not fear being a victim of a crash or hit unlike IAF pilots? Well buddy. You are wrong here.

 

[Abingdonboy]

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

Sir, do you not think there is similar ambition within India to join the IAF? Also the IAF has stated it is building up threat based capabilities not NATION based capabilities so it can respond to any eventuality. It is hardly sensible to say a of the IAF's recent spends have been in response to the JF-17 which is at best a 4th gen fighter? This is nonsense. Not only would be MKIs outnumber the projected Thunder fleet but clearly also outgun them.

Lets not even mention the Rafale which is arguably the world's best, all things considered, 4.5++ fighter, the Upgraded Mirage 2000 (which will have many of the ECM,EW and weapons of Rafale) and upgraded Mig-29 with some of the latest avionics nd weapons integrated let alone the Bisons and LCA which can't be ruled out. Even the "low-end" of the IAF is easily comparable/superior to most other AFs in the world and the PAF.


And let's not even get into the 5 the gen aspect. Whereas the IAF has the funds, has firm orders and a a/c in advanced devlopment stages. The PAF arguably doesn't have the funds for any 5th gen fighter, has no firm orders for such a craft and the a/c many are speculating notably the J-31/20 are no where near being ready for inductions let alone exports to Pakistan. And then there is always the question of the Chinese 5th gen fighters' quality and real world capability.


Tell who should be countering who?

 

[perplexed]

P A F chooses from 1000s upon 1000s of applications + people stand in line at the chance of becoming a P A F pilot and after becoming a pilot they wear that badge with pride on their shoulders and consider giving their life to defend their country as a Big honor and the all know what kind of fighters we have and what we are up.

On the other hand I A F has spent billions upon Billions and continue to spent even more just to counter our Jf17s. I wonder how much More you have to spent before your pilots feel safe in these Birds as other wise they fear for their safety and who can blame them.

1. We have Apaches coming to counter PAF fighters

2. You sound as if IAF have to kidnap people and make them work as pilots as bonded labour. U know who are u kidding when u talk like this !!

 

[SEAL]

Old news now Indians wants a poor SU-30MKI with RCS of Jumbo jet to have 6th gen features.