PAF will allow international media access to entire F-16 fleet to prove its claim

[American Pakistani]

It will be foolish to show media our f-16s. No one in the right mind does that.

Burden is on india to prove their claim.

Also lockheed or f-16 manufacterers can be given a short tour of our dual seater f-16s which is a claim by india if we go as low to prove india wrong.

But we have an upper hand why stoop low to make india humiliated even more.

But one thing for us is with all f-16s accounted for thst would mean 2nd aircraft down was a su-30mki downed by jf 17. Or a mig 29.

Lets see which Path is chosen. Even if we stay silent . our point is strong.

It was indeed a Su30. India's story is just lies since the beginning. Pakistan story is constant. Indians even refused to accept that any jet was shot, it was only when Pakistan showed the proof of their pilot.

No one can force India to give a count of su30...
We don't care about propaganda of other countries

In

I'm not talking about your machoism. I'm being realistic that indians must be forced to show their jets, this is very important to write truth history unlike previous fabrications by indians in other wars. The world must force india to show it's inventory. On the other hand, Pakistan should allow either UN or Lockheed Martin to count it's inventory.

 

[krash]

Entertainment of the world?? Or bending against pressure of USA...
Because USA also knows that if it's indeed true then it's very Baad for the reputation of f16 and in turn it will damage the reputation of USA

According to you Pakistan is showing all its F-16s because the US is pressuring us. The US is pressuring us because it is afraid that if an F-16 was indeed shot down then it would hurt its and the F-16's 'reputation'. So you are categorically admitting that the Indian claims of shooting down an F-16 are excreta and that is exactly why the US is pressuring Pakistan to definitively prove that no F-16 was lost by showing its complete F-16 fleet. Because, as per the reasoning you presented, had an F-16 been lost then the US would have pressured Pakistan not to show its complete F-16 inventory. Well, thank you for accepting the truth.


Is it something in the water or the air across the border which completely inhibits cognitive processes? I mean even when you guys are trying to just troll you shoot yourselves in the foot. How did you expect to pull off those "sarji kal strikes"? It's embarrassing.

No one can force India to give a count of su30...

Obviously....because the count would come out short.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

It was indeed a Su30. India's story is just lies since the beginning. Pakistan story is constant. Indians even refused to accept that any jet was shot, it was only when Pakistan showed the proof of their pilot.



I'm not talking about your machoism. I'm being realistic that indians must be forced to show their jets, this is very important to write truth history unlike previous fabrications by indians in other wars. The world must force india to show it's inventory. On the other hand, Pakistan should allow either UN or Lockheed Martin to count it's inventory.

For the record i do belive we shot down su-30 mki but officially dg ispr or paf hasnt claimed it as we have no evidence. Its better this way u claim what you can orove. Also give peace a chance , give something to indians for face saving. Although i disagree to face saving gesture but whatever for greater good of both countries and people.

 

[maverick1977]

For the record i do belive we shot down su-30 mki but officially dg ispr or paf hasnt claimed it as we have no evidence. Its better this way u claim what you can orove. Also give peace a chance , give something to indians for face saving. Although i disagree to face saving gesture but whatever for greater good of both countries and people.

I bet there are HUD videos or some sort of recording ... systems are integrated with C4ISR and had the real time information. Is that so ?

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I bet there are HUD videos or some sort of recording ... systems are integrated with C4ISR and had the real time information. Is that so ?

Tahir

I dont know who tahir is , but
HUD video would be there also jf 17's carry targetting pods.

Also awacs was in the air so radar 3d picture would also be there.

 

[American Pakistani]

For the record i do belive we shot down su-30 mki but officially dg ispr or paf hasnt claimed it as we have no evidence. Its better this way u claim what you can orove. Also give peace a chance , give something to indians for face saving. Although i disagree to face saving gesture but whatever for greater good of both countries and people.

We already gave them some face saving when we returned their pilot, they returned the gesture by shelling and killing a teenager in Azad Kashmir and injuring 2 others. It is time for Pakistanis to understand that this qom of india doesn't understand the language of peace, all they understand is language of strength.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

We already gave them some face saving when we returned their pilot, they returned the gesture by shelling and killing a teenager in Azad Kashmir and injuring 2 others. It is time for Pakistanis to understand that this qom of india doesn't understand the language of peace, all they understand is language of strength.

Thats true the whole world understands the language of strength. We should make pakistan very very strong. And stand United. Pakistani people should not be divided against enemy im glad we were not divided. And stood like a wall.

 

[Areesh]

Since IAF has officially claimed shooting down a f16 so I think paf should do that

Not necessarily now but it can be done sometime later when tensions with india have declined and things are back to normal

But it should be done. Let's humiliate the enemy a little more.

 

[Hamza913]

I bet there are HUD videos or some sort of recording ... systems are integrated with C4ISR and had the real time information. Is that so ?

Yes, but they probably won't get released sometime soon as they could reveal tactics and flare up tensions.

They may be revealed later, but even then the issue of revealing tactics is still relevant.

 

[macnurv]

Entertainment of the world?? Or bending against pressure of USA...
Because USA also knows that if it's indeed true then it's very Baad for the reputation of f16 and in turn it will damage the reputation of USA

Yeah you keep telling this to yourself, I am sure it inflates Indian egos. If Pakistan was ready to buckle as per Indian claims, Pakistan would have not bombed India and shoot down two of its jet. Or are you saying Pakistan did it after Americans green lit it? So which one is it, both scenarios there dont end well for you.

As for F-16s, we have no compulsion and need to show them, its India which is making a claim based on a missile fragment. The burden of proof lies with India and oddly enough it is the Indian propaganda that is falling flat on its face, not the other way around.

 

[HAIDER]

Would be nice if India too is willing to have their mki accounted for. Would make us feel good if thunder actually did toast an mki.

https://www.facebook.com/

yeah , but they won't. But LHM and US defence department has very much Pak F16 inventory control system.

 

[Strigon]

https://www.facebook.com/

yeah , but they won't. But LHM and US defence department has very much Pak F16 inventory control system.

Doesn’t really matter, it is becoming clearer by every passing day that it might indeed have been an mki. Most recent being Modi whining about Rafael (since other jets couldn’t pull it off).

Either ways mustn’t let this achievement make PAF feel invincible, that’s when things start to go south.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Not going to happen, like North Korea the international journalist doing independent reporting is not possible in Pakistan at least that's what view of reporters here. Media coverage is highly controlled and filtered by agencies for international consumption. Even local media has to face direct indirect control and threats.

Except that we had Reuters, BBC, Al Jazeera etc all reporting from Balakot at the bombing site and reporting back that there was no damage. You Indians will believe every half assed conspiracy theory about Pakistan to make yourselves look better.

 

[GumNaam]

simple fact...kill switch or no kill switch. the u.s. monitors the F-16s it has exporte all over the world as it does not want quietling falling into enemy hands or countries changing loyalties (F-14s, F-4s and F-5s in iranian hands has left a bad taste in the american mouths). if the F-16 has been shot down, the u.s. would've confirmed it. the americans wouldn't let such an opportunity to embarrass Pakistan go.

 

[ziaulislam]

Not going to happen, like North Korea the international journalist doing independent reporting is not possible in Pakistan at least that's what view of reporters here. Media coverage is highly controlled and filtered by agencies for international consumption. Even local media has to face direct indirect control and threats.

Infact bbc hindi was the first one to break the story ..so it was a foreign news agency that actually figured out where the stand off ammunition landed...india violated a boarder at 4 locations and fired stand off ammunition that hit a target 40km inside Pakistan though seems it missed it by large distance meaning india didnt laser guide it accurately i.e left (or didnt had right gos co ordinates)