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PAF Vs IAF Command and Control Systems

PAFs MOBILE PULSE DOPPLER RADARS

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The Earths curvature means that after about 30 Km it is not possible to pick up low level aircrafts.

To be able to detect low level Indian fighters and Helicopters PAF inducted these radars in 1980. Six to Eight Such Radars are deployed in a region to give low level coverage.

The system is a tactical level system and all voice and data is transferred in real time to a command and reporting center from where Ground Control Interceptions are carried out.

IAF also has low level radar developed by BEL called INDRA-1 and INDRA-2 (Indian Doppler Radar). It is upgraded rapidly.

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INDRA-II

It is a variant of INDRA radar for ground controlled interception of targets. The radar uses pulse compression for detection of low flying aircraft in heavy ground clutter with high range resolution and ECCM capabilities. The radar has been produced by Bharat Electronics Limited and is used by Indian Air Force and Army. Seven INDRA-IIs have been ordered by the Indian Air Force.

[edit] Features

* Fully coherent system
* Frequency agility
* Pulse compression
* Advanced signal processing using MTD and CFAR Techniques
* Track while scan for 2-D tracking
* Full tracking capabilities for manoeuvering targets
* Multicolour PPI Raster Scan Display, presenting both MTI and Synthetic Video
* Integral IFF
* Ease of transportation and fast deployment
 
The Indian Posts are confirming my assumption that GCI in India is being carried out from the sensor itself.

This means that a fairly large amount of controllers shall be required. PAF has a seperate air defence branch, does IAF also have a seperate branch for controllers or are they part of some other branch.
 
How is this system integrated with the ground network?


By data-link the complete radar-image of the AWACS can be received in the ground station or the fighter jets in real time, once relayed.
 
By data-link the complete radar-image of the AWACS can be received in the ground station or the fighter jets in real time, once relayed.

Does this mean that the AWACS has to fly within the range of the fixed ground station. If so is this not a limiting factor?
 
Does this mean that the AWACS has to fly within the range of the fixed ground station. If so is this not a limiting factor?


Data link is satellite connect - as is the mobile, from one island to other.
 
India needs a dedicated military satellite for future defence purposes, Future wars would be fought through air and aerospace. So one day we will need that - Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal, S. Krishnaswamy

From what I can gather India is using foreign satellites to establish data links. In conflict you would be dependent on your service providers.
 
From what I can gather India is using foreign satellites to establish data links. In conflict you would be dependent on your service providers.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

dedicated military satellite

We already have lot of satellite army chief referring to dedicated military satellite
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



We already have lot of satellite army chief referring to dedicated military satellite

If possible could you please post some thing on these satellites.

I believe it would be relevant to the thread.
 
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Friend because of the Earth's curvature what Air defense does is deploy Radars after every few miles and make each other overlap and the nest is spread out all over the country now Pakistan having TPS-77s their capabilities have increased.

(FROM WEB)TPS-77
Easy to transport and deploy, the Lockheed Martin AN/TPS-77 all-solid-state, 3-D long-range surveillance radar meets today’s expeditionary forces’ needs for performance and reliability. It provides superior long-range detection, especially in weather and clutter, and 360-degree azimuth coverage.
Field commanders can count on accurate target data at ranges up to 250 nautical miles and elevations up to 100,000 feet from a radar that can operate 24 hours a day.
 
Member # BS_Buster

Friend because of the Earth's curvature what Air defense does is deploy Radars after every few miles and make each other overlap and the nest is spread out all over the country now Pakistan having TPS-77s their capabilities have increased.

(FROM WEB)TPS-77
Easy to transport and deploy, the Lockheed Martin AN/TPS-77 all-solid-state, 3-D long-range surveillance radar meets today’s expeditionary forces’ needs for performance and reliability. It provides superior long-range detection, especially in weather and clutter, and 360-degree azimuth coverage.
Field commanders can count on accurate target data at ranges up to 250 nautical miles and elevations up to 100,000 feet from a radar that can operate 24 hours a day.

Thank you sir but TPS-77 is not a active or passive phased array radars like most of the airforces going for. Modern phased array radars have many advantages.

One answer to earth's curvature, aerostat. it can detect low flying targets at long range.
 
If possible could you please post some thing on these satellites.

I believe it would be relevant to the thread.

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Past Use of Satellite Imagery by Armed Forces

Indian Armed Forces have used imagery from ISRO civil satellites since the early 1990s.

Most civil satellites can be used for military purposes. Someone just has to analyze the data, which is a lot of grunt work. Most militaries use commercially available imagery from satellites. Western analysts have managed to keep track of Chinese missile and nuclear submarine deployment using Google Earth!

TES
Imagery from the TES satellite launched in 2001 using PSLV-C3 has been used by the Indian Military. The satellite provides sub 1m resolution in the visual spectrum.

RISAT-2
RISAT-2, launched in with an Israeli X-Band SAR has the most advanced surveillance capabilities amongst Indian satellites in orbit. The 300 kg can take 1 m resolution images at night and through clouds.

Dedicated Military Satellite Program

DRDO Chief Saraswat's announcement signals India's decision not to be coy about its military satellite program. The shift in policy probably stems from the knowledge that its military satellite program will not attract US sanctions against ISRO as would have happened in the past.

“We are looking at launching one or two satellites every year to fulfill the requirements of all three military formations,” Saraswat said.

“Once these satellites are operational, we will be able to see troop movements along the borders,” he added. “The key is high-resolution images with precision.

“The army, the navy and the air force have varied requirements, and it won’t be appropriate to give the numbers.

"Data and commands can be sent through these satellites to cruise missiles.”

The satellites will be developed and launched by ISRO based on requirements projected by the armed forces.

Communication-Centric Intelligence Satellite (CCI-Sat)
The satellite is being developed with a budget of Rs 100 crore by theDefense Electronics Research Laboratory (DLRL) under the Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO).

The existence of the project was revealed on Tuesday, February 2010 by DLRL director G. Bhoopathy.

"We are in the process of designing and developing a spacecraft fitted with an intelligent sensor that will pick up conversations and communications across the borders," he told reporters in Bangalore before the start of the first international conference on electronic warfare (EWCI 2010).

The satellite will feature a Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) and be used for imaging and communication. It will be capable of detecting conversations and espionage activities in the region.

“The satellite will orbit Earth at 500 km. and cover hostile regions in the area by passing on surveillance data to intelligence agencies,” G. Bhoopathy, DRDL director told AW&ST in November 2010.

The satellite will be launched in the lower earth orbit — about 500 km above the earth — on board the polar satellite launch vehicle (PSLV).

The satellite, which will be operational by 2014, will also serve as a test bed for anti-satellite weapon development.

Navy Satellite

A dedicated satellite to facilitating Naval communication and network centric warfare will be launched into geostationary orbit by ISRO in 2010, Indian Defense Minister, AK Antony announced during Senior Naval Officers Conference in New Delhi on October 22, 2009.

The satellite will facilitate networking of IN warships, submarines and aircraft among themselves as well as with operational centres ashore through high-speed data-links, allowing Maritime threats to be detected and shared in real-time to ensure swift reaction.

The multi-band satellite will weigh 2,330 kg. (5,137 lb.),

The satellite will provide coverage over a 600 x 1,000 nm area of the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), which India considers to be its primary area of responsibility in terms of maritime security.

The project cost is Rs 950 crore.

IAF Satellite

The first dedicated IAF satellite is scheduled for launch in FY 2011-12, after the Navy satellite scheduled for launch in FY 2010-11.

The satellite was initially scheduled to be launched in July 2009, according to a PTI report on November 18, 2008. In early January 2009, the IAF Chief said the IAF satellite will be launched in 2010.

According to IAF Chief Fali H. Major, the satellite will serve as the air force's eye in the skies. It will link up the six AWACS that the IAF is acquiring with each other as well as other ground and airbased radars.
 
^^^ According to news reports IAF getting satellite based early warning system to track missiles soon.


Silent, any details or news on PAF sensors?
 
This image can't be true! if it is true depiction of Indian Airdefense thn I am surprised to see almost not air defense/SAM systems along China border.
This also shows how much focused Indian Defense extabishment is on Pakistan irrespective of the rhetoric tht their defense is focused on China not Pakistan!

Regarding Radar Systems i think Pakistan needs to update it Radar systems with effective Long Range Radars--PAF should be able to see any jet/missile taking off from as far as Indore/Dehli/Mumbay.

Regarding SAMs I think if Pakistan has FT2000 or other long range SAM with atleast 8 systems will be enough for our needs.

Moreover ADC center only 10 meter deep is not safe!

China is not India's enemy as many here would like to believe, we enjoy great cross border trade and there has been a lot of positive growth between the two countries in the last decade or so. Both countries have no interest in war and so both dont place their major defenses on the border. Please check China's sam placements for a better idea.
 

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