PAF to induct JF17 Thunder Block III in 2016

[usman012]

Pakistan should add more power to the engines capable of delivering at least 25000 lbs of thrust.RD-93 engine is not enough .

 

[messiach]

WS13 came out of tianshen-21/21b project, which was to replace the WS-10. Tianshen has also now been superseeded by atleast three different projects. New projects have led to replacement engines for their fc-1, j-10 and j-11 projects. The chinese engine is being used onboard fc-1 for last three years now atleast. It has a seven-tier solid titanium axel and fixed-stage axial pressure compressor. It was not tested in paris. It is digitally integrated. You should identify WS-13 with its groveless exit nozzles.

Originally posted by @Windjammer in Thunder over Paris video.

• Air Platforms
  Paris Air Show 2015: JF-17 fighter flying with indigenous Chinese turbofan
  Richard D Fisher Jr, Paris - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
• 17 June 2015

• Chinese officials have confirmed that a new indigenous engine is being flight tested for the JF-17, seen here at Paris Air Show on 15 June. Source: IHS/Patrick Allen

• Chinese officials at the Paris Air Show have said flight-testing of a new indigenous engine for the JF-17
• Thunder is under way
• Officials also confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani-developed aircraft had achieved its first international sale, although they did not disclose the customer

A senior Chinese aviation official has revealed that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation FC-1/JF-17 fighter co-developed with Pakistan has been test-flown with a new Chinese medium-thrust turbofan engine.

Li Yuhai, an executive vice president with the Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC), told IHS Jane's at the Paris Airshow that a new Chinese turbofan for the J-17 has been "under testing," has completed "lab tests", and that "flight testing is in progress". He also said that the new engine would have a thrust slightly greater than the 8.7-ton thrust of the JF-17's current Klimov RD-93 turbofan.

At a joint Sino-Pakistani press conference on 15 June, Li also said progress was being made on the twin-seat version of the JF 17.

Pakistani sources at Paris confirmed that a JF-17 has been flying with the new Chinese turbofan, which could be revealed publicly "very soon". There is a suggestion the engine could be named 'WS-17' to complement the JF-17b, but officials did not provide any further performance indicators.

One Chinese medium-thrust turbofan programme long reported as slated for the FC-1/JF-17 has been called the WS-13 and reportedly flew in 2010. It has been developed with help from Russia's Klimov and is reportedly based on its RD-33 turbofan.

While previous reports mentioned development difficulties with the WS-13, the willingness of Chinese officials to talk publicly about this engine suggests a higher level of confidence in its prospects.

At the 2008 Airshow China in Zhuhai the Chengdu Gas Turbine Research Institute revealed it was developing a 9.5 ton-thrust turbofan and showed a possible model at the same show. It is not known if this is the engine that is now being test flown on a JF-17.

Despite the news of the new engine testing, Pakistani officials at Paris said they remain satisfied with the Klimov RD-93. In 2010 China obtained a Russian commitment to meet a potential requirement of up to 500 RD-93 engines to support the JF-17 programme. This figure would support Pakistan's requirements for up to 275 JF-17s plus international exports.

A Pakistani official also confirmed reports that the first export contract for the JF-17 has been signed. The official would only say that the contract had been signed in the first half of 2015 but would not name the customer.

Pakistani officials say they are having "serious" discussions with 11 countries, including Argentina, which a source confirmed is interested in co-producing the JF-17.

In its first appearance at Paris, the JF-17 is also accompanied by two new weapon options. One is the C-705KD missile, an IIR/TV-guided ground-attack version of the 140-170 km-range C-705 that was revealed at the 2012 Zhuhai airshow. A Pakistani source said up to four C-705KDs could be carried by the JF-17.

The second new weapon displayed with the JF-17 for the first time is the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) CM-102 anti-radiation missile. Revealed at the 2014 Zhuhai show, it has an advertised range of 100 km. A Pakistani source noted that other versions could have 50% to 70% further range.

Making its second international appearance was the CASIC CM-400AKG Mach-5 speed ground attack missile. A Pakistani official noted it did not have "passive" guidance, which might enable attacks against mobile targets such as ships, but has inertial navigational system/GPS guidance for attacking fixed targets.

Asked whether the CM-400AKG was in Pakistani service an official responded with a pointed "no comment".

Pakistan has produced 50 Block 1 versions of the JF-17 and has started production of 50 Block 2 versions. Officials said that discussions are underway with China for a Block 3 version that will include an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar that is being developed by the Nanjing Research of Electronic Technology (NRIST).

Pakistani officials noted it could be based on NRIST's AESA radar developed for the Chengdu J-10B fighter but would not confirm any relation between the two systems. The Block 3 JF-17 will also incorporate a helmet-mounted display and a possible internal infrared search and tracking (IRST) system.
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[TOPGUN]

Any changes to the airframe & design ?

 

[Hassan Guy]

Now would be a good time to induct...........

 

[TOPGUN]

Now would be a good time to induct...........

These things take time brother and in reality the way things are going in PAC I would say they are doing pretty well.

 

[Hassan Guy]

These things take time brother and in reality the way things are going in PAC I would say they are doing pretty well.

It has to arrive before India gets their first Rafale's.

 

[TOPGUN]

It has to arrive before India gets their first Rafale's.

Well take that up with PAF brass make sure to complain plz

 

[mikkix]

JF-17 cant handle rafale, what will be the answer?

 

[messiach]

Dual-seater will have an onboard higher-thrust turbine-fan. Central fuselage is marginally broader on dual-seater, although not v apparent.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Congratulations and keep up the good work dear brothers, We feel proud of your success.

 

[BATMAN]

JF-17 cant handle rafale, what will be the answer?

Why not?

 

[Jinn Baba]

JF-17 cant handle rafale, what will be the answer?

Wasn't that what Indians said when IAF inducted MKI? Yet here we are still waiting for your airforce to grow the balls to test them against our planes

 

[jupiter2007]

JF-17 cant handle rafale, what will be the answer?

Paf already inticipatin

JF-17 cant handle rafale, what will be the answer?

Do you think PAF didn't know about India buying Rafale?
It took india more then six years to sign the deal the deal. PAF already know the capabilities of IAF and adjust accordingly. I am sure there is an answer for everything India has. Pakistan is not going to announce everything. Paf pilots are already training with Chinese air force.

Soon you will hear a good news, wait for the official announcement from PAF.

 

[mikkix]

Paf already inticipatin


Do you think PAF didn't know about India buying Rafale?
It took india more then six years to sign the deal the deal. PAF already know the capabilities of IAF and adjust accordingly. I am sure there is an answer for everything India has. Pakistan is not going to announce everything. Paf pilots are already training with Chinese air force.

Soon you will hear a good news, wait for the official announcement from PAF.

Brother I love math, its my subject so plz explain me through maths, i dont know other languages. I hope PAF will do wonders for us but currently no way.

Wasn't that what Indians said when IAF inducted MKI? Yet here we are still waiting for your airforce to grow the balls to test them against our planes

Bro I am a Pakistani. my airforce is PAF so plz take criticism positively.

Why not?

Sir you are a senior member, you know exactly why it cant. JF-17 is our product and i am damn proud of it but plz be realistic, we can pitch it against mig-29s but upgraded SU-30s or rafale.....

 

[Akasa]

Can't we change the thread's title to something other than 2016?