PAF revamped Air Defense Alert System

[jupiter2007]

Pretty modest setup

Looks slightly better below

Need something larger , to employ 10,000 Engineers / officers , multiple locations 4-5 Location

• Centralized View over the skies
• Air Space violation detection 360 , across Pakistan Air Space, alert system to notify Airforce
• Missile Launch Detection
• Counter measure with SAM
• Space View of Ground (Intelligence capture)

The idea is good just need "bigger scale"



Something like this is better setup

need to have multiple DR/backup sites.

 

[sparten]

No way PAC is making these locally.

I mean, yes that’s the only sensible position on that matter.
But, not much of the TPS77 purchase made much sense. The US almost forced us to buy it, snice it can track Ballistic missiles and they wanted to “reduce the threat of accidental nuclear war”, a major policy initiative in that era.

 

[mingle]

I believe the fabricating at PAC was meant just for the model. But good to see that TPS 77 MRR just got confirmed.
Don’t mind the PAC, DEPO is even worse.

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@Tps43 confirmed delivery few months back but never mentioned local assembly Good news anyway

 

[farooqbhai007]

@Tps43 confirmed delivery few months back but never mentioned local assembly Good news anyway

TPS43 also mentioned that we have Vera radars in service and a lot of other things but people be like we can't believe it without evidence and then when the news comes of some thing new they be like oh wow never knew this before.

 

[Akh1112]

Well boys, we will find out soon. I’m getting ready to head out there again

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Well boys, we will find out soon. I’m getting ready to head out there again

Bhai dekhna wahan pe GIDS b hai k nahi?

 

[CombatSurgeon]

need to have multiple DR/backup sites.

We have many backup sites. Some are mobile as well!

I mean, yes that’s the only sensible position on that matter.
But, not much of the TPS77 purchase made much sense. The US almost forced us to buy it, snice it can track Ballistic missiles and they wanted to “reduce the threat of accidental nuclear war”, a major policy initiative in that era.

Unfortunately, the ballistic missile tracking software was omitted from the TPS-77 radars supplied to Pakistan. So these are your regular vanilla radars!

 

[sparten]

Unfortunately, the ballistic missile tracking software was omitted from the TPS-77 radars supplied to Pakistan. So these are your regular vanilla radars!

Got a source, since what I have read the Americans were very concerned about the lack of early warning, leading to an accidental nuclear war the 2002 escalation.

 

[CombatSurgeon]

Got a source, since what I have read the Americans were very concerned about the lack of early warning, leading to an accidental nuclear war the 2002 escalation.

In Indo-Pak scenario, radar-based early warning would be of no significance in the context of preventing or starting a nuclear war. Missile TOF would be too miniscule once the track is spotted during its mid-course/terminal phase. Major powers use a multi-sensor system for such events, and their concept of early warning is supposed to give them ample time before the warheads impact. That is approx. 25 mins plus for Russia and US. And they practice the concept of 'Launch on Warning'- as soon as the launch is detected by satellite-based IR and confirmed by radar telemetry, their respective forces release their shots on pre-determined targets according to the assumed defense posture at the time of hostile launch.
In our region, we would most likely rely on HUMINT warning about the movement of hostile missile units, observed troop preparations, and then buttressed by a radar warning if the shots fly off. Our radars would assist any anti-missile systems to tackle the incoming weapons already in flight.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Bhai dekhna wahan pe GIDS b hai k nahi?

No Gids stall , Probably because Gids is keeping its product to showcase them at Egyptian def expo later this month including a Armed Shahpar 2.

Via @isipuppet from twitter
It is Not the original TPS77 since that has much larger size , this seems to be like a TPS77MRR but with slightly more number of more antennas.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

No Gids stall , Probably because Gids is keeping its product to showcase them at Egyptian def expo later this month including a Armed Shahpar 2.

Will we see with which missile they will arm Shahpar?

 

[farooqbhai007]

No Gids stall , Probably because Gids is keeping its product to showcase them at Egyptian def expo later this month including a Armed Shahpar 2.
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Via @isipuppet from twitter
It is Not the original TPS77 since that has much larger size , this seems to be like a TPS77MRR but with slightly more number of more antennas.

Also arslan just confirmed PAC is not producing TPS77MRR , but they confirmed they have received MRR variant and that they will be overhauling it at PAC APF.
Also according to arslan there was a visit by a large Hensoldt delegation to PAC stall , and for those who don't know Hensoldt was supplying spare parts for siemens mdpr , and the Hensoldt radars were being trialed by PAF a few years earlier as mdpr replacement as well.

 

[Bilal.]

Also arslan just confirmed PAC is not producing TPS77MRR , but they confirmed they have received MRR variant and that they will be overhauling it at PAC APF.
Also according to arslan there was a visit by a large Hensoldt delegation to PAC stall , and for those who don't know Hensoldt was supplying spare parts for siemens mdpr , and the Hensoldt radars were being trialed by PAF a few years earlier as mdpr replacement as well.

Can you clarify. Received as in inducted into service?

 

[Akh1112]

Can you clarify. Received as in inducted into service?

What I was told was that they are overhauling the TPS77MRR and I confirmed with him, there’s two variants a TPS77 and a MRR in case he was Confused, telling him one was a new updated variant and he said it’s the MRR variant.

And yes, there was a very very large Hendsholt delegation meeting PAC and PAF officials in their meeting room, when they left eberyone stopped what whey were doing and waited for them to leave, escorting them

 

[Bilal.]

What I was told was that they are overhauling the TPS77MRR and I confirmed with him, there’s two variants a TPS77 and a MRR in case he was Confused, telling him one was a new updated variant and he said it’s the MRR variant.

And yes, there was a very very large Hendsholt delegation meeting PAC and PAF officials in their meeting room, when they left eberyone stopped what whey were doing and waited for them to leave, escorting them

So it’s safe to say the 10 unnamed radars from MODP year book were indeed MRRs.