PAF revamped Air Defense Alert System

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Factory is set to locally produce TPS-77 MRR Radars.

So USA is providing us TPS 77MMR with TOT?

 

[Ali_Baba]

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via https://twitter.com/isipuppet from twitter
A model of TPS-77MRR was showcased at the PAC Kamra Stall at the Dubai Air Show 2021,
After asking the representatives present at the stall it is reported that the Avionics Production Factory is set to locally produce TPS-77 MRR Radars.
Seems to confirm what pdf user TPS-43G had said a few years back and its very likely that first batch of TPS-77MRR ( would be / has been ) delivered from USA while the remaining bulk radars would be produced locally.

Wow - USA providing TOT for the manufacture of Radars in Pakistan - it .. just .. doesn't ... sound .. right...

If only first batch were delivered - it sounds more like sanctions kicked in and the Americans refused to honour another contract that they had signed with Pakistan ..

 

[arjunk]

Wow - USA providing TOT for the manufacture of Radars in Pakistan - it .. just .. doesn't ... sound .. right...

If only first batch were delivered - it sounds more like sanctions kicked in and the Americans refused to honour another contract that they had signed with Pakistan ..

Our relations with the US are not as bad as most believe. But they aren't as good as during the first cold war.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Wow - USA providing TOT for the manufacture of Radars in Pakistan - it .. just .. doesn't ... sound .. right...

If only first batch were delivered - it sounds more like sanctions kicked in and the Americans refused to honour another contract that they had signed with Pakistan ..

can you read .
Is PAC retarded that are showcasing that they are going to be making TPS-77 radars locally at Air Show today

 

[Ali_Baba]

can you read .
Is PAC retarded that are showcasing that they are going to be making TPS-77 radars locally at Air Show today

So - what is being fabricated at PAC? The model of the TPS-77, the radome, or the radars themselves ? Which is the most logical and which is the least logical ? Induction of the TPS-77 was completed in the mid-2000's

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USA sharing radar manufacturing technology under a ToT framework with Pakistan(!) makes no sense when the contract was signed in the early 2000's since it was not announced as part of the original contract, and makes even less sense now given the state of relations and the American's approach to South Asia. There has been no followup contract with new terms that suggest TOT for this radar.

What we need is facts and not random twitter make believe ..

 

[farooqbhai007]

So - what is being fabricated at PAC? The model of the TPS-77, the radome, or the radars themselves ? Which is the most logical and which is the least logical ? Induction of the TPS-77 was completed in the mid-2000's

AN/TPS-77 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance

missiledefenseadvocacy.org

USA sharing radar manufacturing technology under a ToT framework with Pakistan(!) makes no sense when the contract was signed in the early 2000's since it was not announced as part of the original contract, and makes even less sense now given the state of relations and the American's approach to South Asia. There has been no followup contract with new terms that suggest TOT for this radar.

What we need is facts and not random twitter make believe ..

Its TPS-77 MRR that is being locally produced , not the original TPS-77 , search it up , First TPS-77MRR was built in 2018.
Secondly its not twitter , Arsalan went to the Dubai Air Show today , where he took a pic of the model displyed at PAC's Stall and asked the PAC representative from Avionics Production factory , who then told him that PAC was going to be locally producing TPS-77 MRR radars soon.

 

[kursed]

No way PAC is making these locally.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

So USA is providing us TPS 77MMR with TOT?

No way PAC is making these locally.

They're probably assembling knock-down kits. IIRC being told that we did the same thing for the MPDRs back in the day. Nothing special though. Sadly, PAC used the exact wrong phrasing, and that too at the Dubai Air Show.

We Pakistanis think "marketing" is about the showbazi -- colours, graphics, ads, etc -- but have no clue that there's a lot of technical work involved. No appreciation for analytics, buyer personas, and (in this case) most importantly, messaging rules.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pretty modest setup

Looks slightly better below

Need something larger , to employ 10,000 Engineers / officers , multiple locations 4-5 Location

• Centralized View over the skies
• Air Space violation detection 360 , across Pakistan Air Space, alert system to notify Airforce
• Missile Launch Detection
• Counter measure with SAM
• Space View of Ground (Intelligence capture)

The idea is good just need "bigger scale"



Something like this is better setup

 

[Ali_Baba]

They're probably assembling knock-down kits. IIRC being told that we did the same thing for the MPDRs back in the day. Nothing special though. Sadly, PAC used the exact wrong phrasing, and that too at the Dubai Air Show.

We Pakistanis think "marketing" is about the showbazi -- colours, graphics, ads, etc -- but have no clue that there's a lot of technical work involved. No appreciation for analytics, buyer personas, and (in this case) most importantly, messaging rules.

Thanks - more logical - ie assembly of SKDs than manufacturing than what some here are saying..

 

[kursed]

They're probably assembling knock-down kits. IIRC being told that we did the same thing for the MPDRs back in the day. Nothing special though. Sadly, PAC used the exact wrong phrasing, and that too at the Dubai Air Show.

We Pakistanis think "marketing" is about the showbazi -- colours, graphics, ads, etc -- but have no clue that there's a lot of technical work involved. No appreciation for analytics, buyer personas, and (in this case) most importantly, messaging rules.

I believe the fabricating at PAC was meant just for the model. But good to see that TPS 77 MRR just got confirmed.

They're probably assembling knock-down kits. IIRC being told that we did the same thing for the MPDRs back in the day. Nothing special though. Sadly, PAC used the exact wrong phrasing, and that too at the Dubai Air Show.

Don’t mind the PAC, DEPO is even worse.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Pretty modest setup

Looks slightly better below

Need something larger , to employ 10,000 Engineers / officers , multiple locations 4-5 Location

• Centralized View over the skies
• Air Space violation detection 360 , across Pakistan Air Space, alert system to notify Airforce
• Missile Launch Detection
• Counter measure with SAM
• Space View of Ground (Intelligence capture)

The idea is good just need "bigger scale"



Something like this is better setup

lel the existing system is more than sufficient , everything is already deep underground at more locations than you can count on both sides of the border

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

the real deal...


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i guess these should be confidential No?

 

[Akh1112]

I believe the fabricating at PAC was meant just for the model. But good to see that TPS 77 MRR just got confirmed.
Don’t mind the PAC, DEPO is even worse.

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I too suspect the model was fabricated there, however why would they make a model at the avionics production factory and not somewhere like APF or MRF where the have machining gear or whatnot etc

And yea DEPO was pretty shit, the whole detachment sent here aside from the ARF guys seemed like they couldn’t care less

 

[kursed]

I too suspect the model was fabricated there, however why would they make a model at the avionics production factory and not somewhere like APF or MRF where the have machining gear or whatnot etc

And yea DEPO was pretty shit, the whole detachment sent here aside from the ARF guys seemed like they couldn’t care less

Must be using one of their new 3D printers or something, hence... just a guess on my part. I am albeit much more interested in the confirmation of the radar type with us.