PAF has requested for an increase of 1.5 billion dollar in the budget.

[Fawadqasim1]

Yup but when you consider future induction to counter present or inducting inventory ..

Not 5th gen inventory sir

 

[Ultima Thule]

wh

whether A or B i assure u PAF has dropped the option..

because zardari eats the funds for procurement of J-10 but not for technical reason

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Bhaii contact any andar ka banda in PAF and he'll tell u about attack helis ..and that guy was right we may be wanting this increase for attack helis...

Bhai andar k bandey hi to nahi miltey

 

[saracen]

Don't know what they are going to buy but PAF has requested a rise in budget for 1.5 billion
@WebMaster please correct the title.

50 Block III Thunders. These need to be paid for. AESA and top notch EW suites do not come cheap.

 

[deep_blue]

You are assuming Mki + rafale vs Jf 17 + f16 +future Induction... But you forgot M2k +mig 29 upg+ mmrca+ 5the gen...

OK.let me put it this way.
Mahan mki+rafale+teja+M2k +mig 29 upg+ mmrca+ 5the gen...vs f16+fj17(1'2'3'4)+jf stealth plus more f16 plus su35+j31+tfx+j16 +used typhoonsetc etc etc.
Sounds good na????
That's how it makes one feel when you start pak vs India d***k measurement competition in every thread
Go to relevant thread to compare ur mahan mki vs paf
.
.
.wait wait....
Check this one
http://m.indiatoday.in/story/russia--su-30-mki-fighter-crash-sukhoi-indian-air-force/1/405849.html
So...this vemaan is not that great,if it is throwing its pilots out.
And if it is ...then ur pilots r our agents who start jumping out of plane in middle of mission
Feeling better now????
Then stop derailing threads.

 

[BHarwana]

50 Block III Thunders. These need to be paid for. AESA and top notch EW suites do not come cheap.

These are additional funds requested for the purchase of fighter jets as F-16 were not provided now PAF has requested additional funds of 1.5 billion to purchase another platform so that means that the new jet cost more than f-16 and PAF was lacking 1.5 billion

 

[danger007]

OK.let me put it this way.
Mahan mki+rafale+teja+M2k +mig 29 upg+ mmrca+ 5the gen...vs f16+fj17(1'2'3'4)+jf stealth plus more f16 plus su35+j31+tfx+j16 +used typhoonsetc etc etc.
Sounds good na????
That's how it makes one feel when you start pak vs India d***k measurement competition in every thread
Go to relevant thread to compare ur mahan mki vs paf
.
.
.wait wait....
Check this one
http://m.indiatoday.in/story/russia--su-30-mki-fighter-crash-sukhoi-indian-air-force/1/405849.html
So...this vemaan is not that great,if it is throwing its pilots out.
And if it is ...then ur pilots r our agents who start jumping out of plane in middle of mission
Feeling better now????
Then stop derailing threads.

i didn't started and im not derailing better you check previous posts...

 

[WarFariX]

You are assuming Mki + rafale vs Jf 17 + f16 +future Induction... But you forgot M2k +mig 29 upg+ mmrca+ 5the gen...

hey i never meant that...what i said was just thunders (block 3 especially) and f16s can take care of ur mkis in near future..mig29upg , m2k mmrca(wont happen for nect 10 years ) 5thgen not before 2025..meanwhile talking of 5th gen , did u ever heard the word FC-31V2? ..try to research on it on chinese forums only.....and also check HQ-9 , HQ-16A

 

[Ultima Thule]

1) JF-17got more range than J-10B
Combat Radius: 1350km vs 1000km
Ferry Range: 3500km vs 2500km
2)AESA is coming in Block 3
3)IRST is coming in Block 3

J-10B is only better in Payload which is about 3000kg more than Jf-17 and in block 3 it can increase payload by using more composites easily.

So it doesn't fit anywhere in current scenario.

There no such specifications about J-10B you are quoting J-10A Specification and not to forget bro J-10B was specially created for testing advance avionics and radar system for J-20

There is nothing russian in j16 other than airframe design that too was ussrs. Russia just inherited it but we won't go their china and pakistan can persuade russia easily in this regard. J16 is need of the hour for us,and our iron brother won't disappoint us have faith

you are assuming bro may be possible may be not

 

[danger007]

hey i never meant that...what i said was just thunders (block 3 especially) and f16s can take care of ur mkis in near future..mig29upg , m2k mmrca(wont happen for nect 10 years ) 5thgen not before 2025..meanwhile talking of 5th gen , did u ever heard the word FC-31V2? ..try to research on it on chinese forums only.....and also check HQ-9 , HQ-16A

we have those birds m2k mig 29... you are quite informed.. china built lot of stuff what it supposed to do with pakistan..

 

[Ultima Thule]

j16 with ws15 engines will be in a league of its own an ultimate non stealthy super flanker

not possible

 

[BHarwana]

not possible

Some info might help. Putin called PM for condemning terror attacks. MI-35 delivery will be made sooner for anti terror activities.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I won't argue on other points but mki hase one clear advantage its a bvr missile truck it can fire them again and again or like mlrs just joking

MKI has a huge RCS 15m2 where as our F-16 and JF-17 has less RCS 1m2 to 2m2 MKI will come close to detect, track and engage our vipers and thunders so both have chances of 50/50

Some info might help. Putin called PM for condemning terror attacks. MI-35 delivery will be made sooner for anti terror activities.

I am quoting @Fawadqasim1 this post
j16 with ws15 engines will be in a league of its own an ultimate non stealthy super flanker
Jet engines is design on specific air-frames, WS-15 is design specially for J-20, if putting a jet engine is that easy than why US can't put F-22's P&W F-119 on F-15 or why they can't put F-35's P&W F-135 on F-16

 

[Fawadqasim1]

MKI has a huge RCS 15m2 where as our F-16 and JF-17 has less RCS 1m2 to 2m2 MKI will come close to detect, track and engage our vipers and thunders so both have chances of 50/50


I am quoting @Fawadqasim1 this post
j16 with ws15 engines will be in a league of its own an ultimate non stealthy super flanker
Jet engines is design on specific air-frames, WS-15 is design specially for J-20, if putting a jet engine is that easy than why US can't put F-22's P&W F-119 on F-15 or why they can't put F-35's P&W F-135 on F-16

Sir rd33 was specifically designed for mig29s but we are using its variant rd93 in jf17s so

 

[BHarwana]

I am quoting @Fawadqasim1 this post
j16 with ws15 engines will be in a league of its own an ultimate non stealthy super flanker
Jet engines is design on specific air-frames, WS-15 is design specially for J-20, if putting a jet engine is that easy than why US can't put F-22's P&W F-119 on F-15 or why they can't put F-35's P&W F-135 on F-16

I am in no disagreement with you. I know it well. My point here is that we can buy SU 35 and Russia will deliver but my point here is Pakistan has enough budget to buy SU 35 and other in the class but the actual thing is that here Pakistan is thinking of air strikes deep in Afghanistan so these fund will be utilized according to those requirements.