PAF and its Pilots Persistent Demoralising Impact on IAF

[Mace]

Historically PAF and IAF were born from the same outfit the Royal Indian Airforce,with RAF being their common mentor. But in the mid fifties PAF tilted its course towards the US,which proved to be correct decision as it brought about a paradigm shift in its training methodologies,flying skills,maintenance techniques and access to modern Jets. PAF was turning into a modern airforce that was innovative,aggressive,talented,effective and progressive. All these dynamic changes were seen as horrifying developments across the border,gradually but surely IAF and its ranks were sinking into a state of INFERIORITY COMPLEX. The first tangible results of PAFs transformation were witnessed in the war of 1965,where PAF completely outclassed its larger foe 1:5. The psychological cost of this hefty blow was enormous to the IAF,to add salt to injury the Global media was also singing in chorus glorifying PAFs supremacy. Just one quote among dozens..
"By all accounts the courage displayed by the Pakistan Air Force pilots is reminiscent of the bravery of the few young and dedicated pilots who saved this country from Nazi invaders in the critical Battle of Britain during the last war." Patrick Seale, The Observer, London, September 12, 1965.

The aftermath of 1965 led to the US sanctions on Pakistan resulting in the embargo of aircrafts and spares to the PAF. This setback did not deter PAF in seeking new horizons and excelling further in its goal to serve the motherland. In 1971 citing our internal feud the enemy tried its luck again and got a bloody nose with depleted PAF faring much better against IAF overall.

Till the early Eighties PAF maintained its psychological edge over the enemy. Then came the devastating news of the induction of F16s in the PAF, this caused PANIC ATTACKS and HISSY FITS in the Indian Establishment. Never in the history of mankind a bigger, but psychologically scared nation made such a massive fuss. This hue and cry still exists with full rancour even after four decades. The word F16 has become a household name causing SHIVER UP THE SPINE of the Indian Pilots.

To counter these initial forty jets the petrified Indians went crazy with their shopping spree and ended with a mix of some four hundred fighters across the globe. Like the Jaguars,Mig 21,23,25,27,29,Mirage 2000,Su30mki ,Harriers and others.
On the 26th of February 2019 the Indians made a half hearted attempt to strike inside Pakistani territory. It is well known in airforce circles and the media(NDTV) that .....
Pre-Balakot, The IAF pilots were shivering out of fear to the point they had to smoke cigs all night to calm their nerves . They couldn’t sleep a wink out of fear of not just the mission but also the reply that the PAF pilots might give.
They did indeed get a good reply from the Pakistan Air Force. One which will be written down in the history books to amuse the Pakistani future generations.
(IAF hitting our trees how dare they..)
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Indian pilots have developed a habit of becoming POW's on a regular basis, although we dont mind reciprocating their intrusions with our traditional hospitality.

The IAF and its pilots are also a laughing stock in the World with lack of training,fitness and motivation they think by just flying the Rafale they can counter our boyz...
This Pilot Was Too ‘Big’ For The Rafale Cockpit That He Had One Custom Made For Him.
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Definitely something to laugh about, right boys?

Our Pilots are a true depiction of Hazrat Iqbal's Marde e Momin.
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Let me close this thread with a few international quotes on our pilots.

"Pakistan has one of the best, most combat ready airforces in the world. They have to; their neighbour to the East is huge, and the two nations, have a long history of hostilities. For Indian war planners, the Pakistan air Force is their worst fear. Pakistani pilots are respected throughout the world, especially the Islamic world, because they know how to fly and fight".
"As an air defense analyst, I am fully aware that the Pakistan Air Force ranks today as one of the best air forces in the world and that the PAF Combat Commanders' School (CCS) in Sargodha has been ranked as the best GCI/pilot and fighter tactics and weapons school in the world". As one senior US defense analyst commented to me in 1991, "it leaves Topgun (the US Naval Air Station in Miramar, California) far behind". -Sergey Vekhov May 1993 issue (pages 46-47) of Airforces Monthly, reputable UK-based airs defense magazine.

PAF is a professional force no doubt. Will have more respect for it if they actually made a difference to Pak war efforts or strategic goals.

 

[PakSword]

He was deaf when he got hit, but he had a perfectly good idea of the general direction he was flying into. It was well known that Pakistani pilots were firing all their missiles from well into their own territory, so obviously he would have to cross the loc to have any chance of shooting them down with a short range missile like the r73.

That's why he asked the locals when he landed where he was.. and our locals are so funny that they said "India" and he responded with chants of "Jai Hind".. only to find his a$$ in his hands a few minutes later..

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Well we can say the same
Indian Army has had a demoralising impact on PA
When u look at the humiliation u guys faced in 1971 and 1999

Not to mention the fact that PN is smaller than Indian coastguard

I will not into detail.
Will give you just one example.

What Gen Zia whispered in the ears of Rajiv Gandhi in 1984, completely evaporated the morale of IA and GOI alike.
Numerous examples since then, up to the current stand off at LOC.

Nothing further needed to be said.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

PAF is a professional force no doubt. Will have more respect for it if they actually made a difference to Pak war efforts or strategic goals.

I agree to this bit.

Never surprised to see the colonized mentally of the PAF which always needs a gora to tell them they are "gud"

Na kar bhai,although i agree to your notion generally,but these foreigners are well reputed and have a huge following Globally.

So it's my request to Pakistanis to stay humble, and not underestimate the enemy

I agree.

First of all we should thank Allah

Whatever our boys achieve is primarily due to the Grace of Allah and secondly due to their hard work and motivation.

 

[SIPRA]

So it's my request to Pakistanis to stay humble, and not underestimate the enemy.

Sir Jee: Thorha jaiya chaska tay sawaad tay lae laen deyo.

 

[Esgalduin]

He was deaf when he got hit, but he had a perfectly good idea of the general direction he was flying into. It was well known that Pakistani pilots were firing all their missiles from well into their own territory, so obviously he would have to cross the loc to have any chance of shooting them down with a short range missile like the r73.

LOL, that's some grade A bullshit. You must have missed the part where Abhinandan had to ask the villagers after he crashed whether he was in India or in Pakistan. He was confident in his ability to avoid the radars of the fighter jets but failed to account for the ELINT aircraft with a gods-eye view of the arena. He probably had every intention of intercepting Pakistani fast-movers WITHIN Indian territory. He did not appear to hear the warnings of his controller to "Flow cold," which your own media outlets have stated. No one is denying that Abhinandan was dutifully serving his country but lets not pretend that he knew the odds he was facing and still went in anyway like some modern day David against Goliath.

 

[SIPRA]

LOL, that's some grade A bullshit.

Good thing is that Indian posters always come up with Grade-A BS. They never compromise on quality.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Good thing is that Indian posters always come up with Grade-A BS

Once any one steps on their false bravado the results are quite apparent.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Sir Jee: Thorha jaiya chaska tay sawaad tay lae laen deyo.

Chaska tay hun v assi annay wa laen ge.

PAF is a professional force no doubt. Will have more respect for it if they actually made a difference to Pak war efforts or strategic goals.

They do make a difference, just last year PAF responded to Indian violation of LoC and attempts to start a conflict, they managed to respond all while helping us maintain diplomatic and tactical advantage from start to finish. What more importance for strategic goals do you need?

LOL, that's some grade A bullshit. You must have missed the part where Abhinandan had to ask the villagers after he crashed whether he was in India or in Pakistan. He was confident in his ability to avoid the radars of the fighter jets but failed to account for the ELINT aircraft with a gods-eye view of the arena. He probably had every intention of intercepting Pakistani fast-movers WITHIN Indian territory. He did not appear to hear the warnings of his controller to "Flow cold," which your own media outlets have stated. No one is denying that Abhinandan was dutifully serving his country but lets not pretend that he knew the odds he was facing and still went in anyway like some modern day David against Goliath.

I believe the F-16s could see him on their own APG-68s too. His intentions were clear as you rightly pointed out. Cope India exercises used the same tactics since at least 2004, the MKIs hang back and the Bisons fly low and get close for the kill.

 

[Materialistic]

While we have all reveled in last year's victory, I think that we should maintain some perspective.

A lot people don't seem to recognise the fact that part of what helped PAF win the day was humility. Pakistan armed forces chiefs prior to the conflict weren't glorifying their capabilities as much as Indians, who were talking about a two front war as if it were some cakewalk, PAF were not underestimating the enemy as the IAF may have been, we were not the ones chest thumping and calling for military action and escalation. Indians were overconfident and their hubris cost them.

So it's my request to Pakistanis to stay humble, and not underestimate the enemy. This victory should not make us arrogant and blind to the threat. The reality is that we face a foe many times our size. They have unrestricted access to military hardware and a wallet deep enough to procure technology and numbers, well beyond our means, and then some. And it also seems to me that the IAF too are fully capable of carrying out a similar raid to that of 27th Feb on us, perhaps even larger in scale and effect. Both surprise and their underestimation of our capabilities and resolve contributed massively to our success. Let's not lose sight of that in these celebrations. Let's not let pride come before a fall.

Very well said.

While we have every right to celebrate the victory but over the past one year we have gone overboard!

 

[DocEinstein]

Very well said.

While we have every right to celebrate the victory but over the past one year we have gone overboard!

Yes I agree.
I wish people would stop opening a new thread every 2-3 days and stop chest thumping non stop.I think a lot of members here have probably pounded their chests broader than 56" with all that chest thumping.
On the other hand if an Indian opens a thread with lies, false bravado or delusions then please feel free to tear him a new asshole.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

I wish people would stop opening a new thread every 2-3 days and stop chest thumping non stop.

Kindly visit BHARAT RAKSHAK and witness the height of BS to a new level. These are challenging times for us and there is no harm in reminding our new generation of PAF heroics.

 

[DocEinstein]

Kindly visit BHARAT RAKSHAK and witness the height of BS to a new level. These are challenging times for us and there is no harm in reminding our new generation of PAF heroics.

Kindly listen my friend,
Why would I go and visit an Indian site where illiterate degenerates have accumulated to do mental masturbation?
You have been on this forum for a decent amount of time, so I think you should understand what I was trying to say in my post briefly. Please re-read the last line again.
I am from an older generation, but I think everyone reading these forums has been reminded of the valor of our brave guys extensively. I have started visiting this forum since Feb last year.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

I think everyone reading these forums has been reminded of the valor of our brave guys extensively.

Why dont you start any new thread with some innovative ideas my friend. I guess most of us have run out of ideas!!!

 

[Trango Towers]

Please enlighten us of your 1000 year glorious history. You people don't have any accomplishments of your own so you try to associate yourself with Turkish/Uzbec and Persian conquerors . Just because you adopted their religion doesn't make you one of them. If I become a British citizen, it would be pretty stupid of me to claim that we ruled over India. The 1000 year pathetic history was a shared history. In fact, regions west of the Indus river were the most commonly invaded.

You still flying in your time machines without toilets