PAC/JF-17 - DxB Air Show 2019

[Khafee]

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Chairman PAC board - ammalik76@yahoo.com

 

[The Eagle]

I'm pretty sure, it is not on static display either @Trailer23 ?

so we have the models and there was no need for flight display or even static.

 

[HRK]

Mil-1773 databus?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1196374588940271616

UAE in latest upgrades of M2K-9 fleet upgrading it with some AESA version of radar or the radar will remain the same ....??

 

[Khafee]

UAE in latest upgrades of M2K-9 fleet upgrading it with some AESA version of radar or the radar will remain the same ....??

UAE Signs Up for Mirage Upgrade
November 18, 2019
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-11-18/uae-signs-mirage-upgrade

RDY-3 radar
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/rdy-3-airborne-fire-control-radar

 

[Shabi1]

Do you realise following pic which you shared in this thread is the first ever pic of JF-17 with Laser Guided bombs
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BTW its 'blk-I' Jf-17


Universal standard for Aircraft stores ....
For basic layout and understanding: plz read

JF-17 Blk-2 uses MIL-STD-1553.

But this confirms PAC has the ability to manufacture the fiber optic data bus MIL-STD-1773. Indicating JF-17 Blk-3 will likely be equipped with it.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Chairman PAC board - ammalik76@yahoo.com

I'm guessing they must have tossed him from the G-Suite account list. Costs a good 1K PKR a month to just keep someone on...

 

[Trailer23]

@Khafee

 

[HRK]

JF-17 Blk-2 uses MIL-STD-1553.

But this confirms PAC has the ability to manufacture the fiber optic data bus MIL-STD-1773. Indicating JF-17 Blk-3 will likely be equipped with it.

IF I am not wrong
MIL-STD-1553 is for radar and avionics, while MIL-STD-1773 is related to weapon and store management .... and JF-17 program is following these universal standards from the beginning

 

[Shabi1]

IF I am not wrong
MIL-STD-1553 is for radar and avionics, while MIL-STD-1773 is related to weapon and store management .... and JF-17 program is following these universal standards from the beginning

Did some searching, all I could find was that application wise both are same and change is just in physical layer. 1773 is just a 1553 where electrical transmission is replaced by optical media for greater bandwidth.
However could be that weapon systems started using MIL-STD-1773 earlier than FCS as they are more bandwidth intensive.
CD vs MP3 scenario, both do the same thing, one is more compact and faster.
Only MIL-STD-1553 acknowledged for JF-17 till date.

 

[Zulfiqar]

Did some searching, all I could find was that application wise both are same and change is just in physical layer. 1773 is just a 1553 where electrical transmission is replaced by optical media for greater bandwidth.
However could be that weapon systems started using MIL-STD-1773 earlier than FCS as they are more bandwidth intensive.
CD vs MP3 scenario, both do the same thing, one is more compact and faster.
Only MIL-STD-1553 acknowledged for JF-17 till date.

@messiach or another senior member here mentioned about usage of fiber optic cables in JF-17 but I can't remember if it was for flight controls or weapon operations.

 

[HRK]

Did some searching, all I could find was that application wise both are same and change is just in physical layer. 1773 is just a 1553 where electrical transmission is replaced by optical media for greater bandwidth.
However could be that weapon systems started using MIL-STD-1773 earlier than FCS as they are more bandwidth intensive.
CD vs MP3 scenario, both do the same thing, one is more compact and faster.
Only MIL-STD-1553 acknowledged for JF-17 till date.

sorry mistake at my end.... I mixed up MIL-STD-1760 with MIL-STD-1773, former is related to weapon and store

Inclusion: If anyone interested about MIL-STD-1553 could read about it here and for MIL-STD-1773 plz visit here, and for weapon and for store management MIL-STD-1760 plz visit here

 

[khanasifm]

Everything is same old except ferry range cAtac listed 3000km with three drop tanks so this must be w/o all external tanks

Can some one confirm at event ?

Last time basic range was 1800 km and with all 3 drop tanks or 2x1100 and 1x 800 liters was 3000 km

So this looks like all internal plus one 800 liter range ? Not sure [emoji848]

Wingspan 8.5 vs ~9.5 for dual seater and block 3 which was confirmed during interview by Chinese so

 

[Falcon26]

@Khafee

On the first video, did you take any pictures showing the weapon systems on the aviation research innovation development poster? Correct me if I am wrong, but I can see an Anka like drone, radars and some sort of
RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile like weapon system. @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Philip the Arab]

On the first video, did you take any pictures showing the weapon systems on the aviation research innovation development poster? Correct me if I am wrong, but I can see an Anka like drone, radars and some sort of
RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile like weapon system. @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

I read the poster from the video it says
Medium Altitude long endurance drone
High speed target drone
AESA radar
Digital flight control system
My vid is bugging so ask someone else for the rest or look yourself at 1080P video quality

 

[Quwa]

@Khafee

@Trailer23 You sir, are going to be featured on Quwa