PAA handed over all four Mi-35M: Ceremony

[Tps43]

Seriously man?

 

[War Thunder]

What r u talking about mate? A helis sound gives it position away from kilometers, its not meant to be stealthy.

Not while landing, or hovering closer to the ground.
Nor when shooting at it with standard rifles and machine guns which are totally dependent on the ability to see, and not hear.
Can make all the difference in how safer the troops jumping out and getting back in are...

 

[Tokhme khar]

There is a fatal design flaw in the Ka-50/ 52's. The contra-rotating blades as far apart as they are placed still manage to impact each other during extreme maneuvering. This has happened a number of times resulting in total destruction of the rotors!.........perhaps rigid blades are the answer.......but it has put a damper on the purchase of these awesome beasts, even by the Russian army aviation. The Ka-29's/ 31's/ 32's also use this contra-rotating design however they are far heavier and much less maneuverable hence they haven't seen these types of catastrophic accidents.

Why not some Kamovs

 

[war&peace]

There is a fatal design flaw in the Ka-50/ 52's. The contra-rotating blades as far apart as they are placed still manage to impact each other during extreme maneuvering. This has happened a number of times resulting in total destruction of the rotors!.........perhaps rigid blades are the answer.......but it has put a damper on the purchase of these awesome beasts, even by the Russian army aviation. The Ka-29's/ 31's/ 32's also use this contra-rotating design however they are far heavier and much less maneuverable hence they haven't seen these types of catastrophic accidents.

Counter-rotating rotors are used to eliminate the tail fan as the torque gets cancelled but the blades are elastic entities to minimise the weight and reduce the aeroelastic influences. However no other helicopter manufacturer uses this design other than Kamov. I don't recall any such design from Sikorsky, Augusta, Bell etc..

 

[Sulman Badshah]

@Sulman Badshah in the 4th pic there is an arrow pointing at some missiles which one are those?

Not 100 % Sure .. But look like Ataka-V or Shaturm ATGM

 

[Tokhme khar]

Yes.......but in the case of the Ka-50/ 52's they clash/ impact frequently resulting in catastrophic destruction! Has happened a number of times already.There are already strict limitations of certain maneuvers on the Ka-50/52 drivers.......on what and what not they can do.

Counter-rotating rotors are used to eliminate the tail fan as the torque gets cancelled but the blades are elastic entities to minimise the weight and reduce the aeroelastic influences.

 

[war&peace]

Dont like its camo tbh

camo can be changed.. it is a paint job.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iraqi Mil-35's also have this standard factory camou finish for desert areas. The Iraqi Hinds have been giving outstanding service, along with the Havoc Mil-28's. They are known locally as the Daesh killers.

camo can be changed.. it is a paint job.

 

[war&peace]

Yes.......but in the case of the Ka-50/ 52's they clash/ impact frequently resulting in catastrophic destruction! Has happened a number of times already.There are already strict limitations of certain maneuvers on the Ka-50/52 drivers.......on what and what not they can do.

Yeah that's what I tried to explain that why does it happen so you're right it is flawed design..Looks good for experimental birds but not for production units. If counter-rotor design was successful, we would be seeing a lot more such choppers from all major manufacturers. It is more like the swept forward wing for a/c's..which has some advantages but has a weight penalty and structural issues that outweigh any benefits.

 

[Tokhme khar]

True, but a well flown Ka-52 within its parameters is still a fine machine......it still is a dangerous attack helo. Last reports from Russian forums indicate the introduction of a new and improved control system to avoid rotor impact during extreme maneuvering. The Russians will eventually sort it out.

Yeah that's what I tried to explain that why does it happen so you're right it is flawed design..Looks good for experimental birds but not for production units. It counter-rotor design was successful, we would be seeing a lot more such choppers from all major manufacturers. It is more like the sweep forward Aircraft..which has some advantages but has a weight penalty and structural issues that outweigh any benefits.

 

[war&peace]

True, but a well flown Ka-52 within its parameters is still a fine machine......it still is a dangerous attack helo. Last reports from Russian forums indicate the introduction of a new and improved control system to avoid rotor impact during extreme maneuvering. The Russians will eventually sort it out.

Well, let's see..however Kamov does not seem to be on any shopping or even wish list of PAA. They will be happy with AH1z and T-129s and also I guess some Z10MEs are coming as China improved it quite a lot after the feedback from PAA.

 

[ALi Rizwan]

Yeah that's what I tried to explain that why does it happen so you're right it is flawed design..Looks good for experimental birds but not for production units. If counter-rotor design was successful, we would be seeing a lot more such choppers from all major manufacturers. It is more like the swept forward wing for a/c's..which has some advantages but has a weight penalty and structural issues that outweigh any benefits.

Sir that FLAWED design is the future.US Next Gen Line.
Twin Rotors + 1 propeller in back for speed.

 

[war&peace]

Sir that FLAWED design is the future.US Next Gen Line.
Twin Rotors + 1 propeller in back for speed.

which one?

Next gen is AH66 RAH and it is a single rotor design with shrouded tail rotor.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

which one?

Next gen is AH66 RAH and it is a single rotor design with shrouded tail rotor.

I think he is talking about sikorsky S97 raider

 

[HAIDER]

Out standing news how many troops can be carried at one time ?

The troop-carrying version is capable of airlifting eight paratroopers with personal weapons.

The transport version can deliver ammunition or other cargo weighing up to 1,500 kg inside the cargo cabin or 2,400 kg on an external sling.

The medevac version enables the transportation of up to 4 wounded or sick (two sitting cases and two stretcher cases), accompanied by a paramedic.