Over 100 Sunni scholars declare Wahhabis to be outside mainstream [Sunni] Islam

[SouI]

Wahhabis practice the exact islamic values mohamad traditionally taught. If it is not islamic, then nothing is.

 

[Mamluk]

What is the difference between mainstream and Wahabi Islam ? Are all terrorists Salafists/Wahabbis ? I have seen non Wahabbi Sunnis engage in terrorism as well. Taliban is not Wahabbi, I believe.

Taliban are Salafis. Wahabism is one form of Salafism. They are mostly all the same.

Wahhabis practice the exact islamic values mohamad traditionally taught. If it is not islamic, then nothing is.

No they don't.

It's like saying Protestants follow the exact form of Christianity that Jesus did.

All sects claim they follow Muhammad (pbuh)'s original teachings.

 

[Clutch]

Wahhabis practice the exact islamic values mohamad traditionally taught. If it is not islamic, then nothing is.

You must be completely clueless then... lol...

Over 100 Sunni scholars declare Wahhabis to be outside mainstream Sunni Islam – Chechnya

Posted by Talib Ghaffari

An International conference of Sunni scholars was held in Grozny, Chechnya, attended by more than 100 renowned Islamic scholars and Sunni shaykhs who came from Russia, Syria, Turkey, India, Egypt, Jordan, South Africa, United Kingdom and other countries.



Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Egypt, defined the mainstream Sunni Islam and excluded Wahhabis from it. He stated:

“Ahl as-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah are the Ash’arites and Muturidis (adherents of the theological systems of Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi and Imam Abul-Hasan al-Ash’ari). In matters of belief, they are followers of any of the four schools of thought (Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki or Hanbali) and are also the followers of the Sufism of Imam Junaid al-Baghdadi in doctrines, manners and [spiritual] purification.”

This statement implies that Salafists, also called Wahhabis, are not part of the mainstream Ahl as-Sunnah or Sunni Muslims, despite the fact that they are trying to hijack the term Sunni by labeling themselves as Sunni Muslims.

Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb also said: “Terrorists and Islam have no relation whatsoever, instead these terrorists are inclined towards spreading a radical ideology among Muslims, so that Islam is misunderstood world over.”

The conference was held on 25-27 August 2016 in the city of Grozny, organized by the president of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov.

Wahhabi clerics of the Saudi Kingdom are furious over this conference. Wahhabis of other countries have also been angered over it.

Some of the renowned shaykhs attending the conference include:

1. Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, president and grand Imam of the prestigious Islamic seminary Al-Azhar University of Cairo, Egypt
2. Shaikh Muhammad Saad al-Azhari, professor of Al-Azhar University
3. Shaykh Abu Bakr Ahmad, head of the largest Islamic seminary in Kerala, South India
4. Shaykh Anwar Ahmed al-Baghdadi, teacher at a large North Indian seminary Jamia Aleemiya
5. Habib Umar bin Hafiz, the leading Sufi shaykh of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order and head of the International Islamic seminary in Tarim, Yemen
6. Habib Ali al-Jifri, renowned Sunni scholar of UAE and one of the leading Sufi shaykhs of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order
7. Shaykh Ali Gomaa, ex Grand Mufti of Egypt
8. Kamil Samigullin, the chief Mufti of Tatarstan

Links
http://www.firstpost.com/world/isla...iating-themselves-from-salafists-2998018.html

About time... only took them 85 years to recognize this...

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Taliban are Salafis. Wahabism is one form of Salafism. They are mostly all the same.
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Taliban are not Salafis/Wahabbis. They are Deobandis another sect of Sunni Islam in South Asia.

Btw what other forms of Salafism are there besides Wahabbism ?

 

[CBU-105]

You must be completely clueless then... lol...

pretty sure he's being sarcastic.

also, good to see a lot of folks from muslim majority countries denounce the salafists/wahhabis, nice 1.

Taliban are not Salafis/Wahabbis. They are Deobandis another sect of Sunni Islam in South Asia.

Btw what other forms of Salafism are there besides Wahabbism ?

Deobandis are closely related in their ideology to sallafi/wahhabi, they're also very different in India and Pakistan, much more hardcore and into terror etc in Pakistan, bit 'moderate' (in action) here but similar in their supremacist mindset.

Check this article on Ind vs Pak deobandis:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/why-deobandis-are-militant-in-pak-not-in-india/226254.html

 

[Mamluk]

Taliban are not Salafis/Wahabbis. They are Deobandis another sect of Sunni Islam in South Asia.

Btw what other forms of Salafism are there besides Wahabbism ?

Salafism itself is not a sect.

Sects that accepted and built upon the teachings of scholars like Ibn Taymiyah are Salafis. So Deobandi is a South Asian Salafi inspired school.

Wahabis are more extreme. That's why Taliban are not like Daesh.

More about forms of Salafism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement

 

[Aramagedon]

Wahhabis practice the exact islamic values mohamad traditionally taught. If it is not islamic, then nothing is.

The pagan bedouin Arabs fought against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) for 18 years and after his demise martyred his closest relatives to gain power. 'It is nature of Arabs'not holy prophet and Islam.
Prophet even didn't order to attack Iran or Iraq, prophet sent Imam Ali (PBUH) to Yemen and Yemenis became Muslims by rational and speech of Imam Ali.

 

[Suff Shikan]

Taliban are Salafis. Wahabism is one form of Salafism. They are mostly all the same.



No they don't.

It's like saying Protestants follow the exact form of Christianity that Jesus did.

All sects claim they follow Muhammad (pbuh)'s original teachings.

Are you out of your mind? Seriously Taliban are Salafis? Does not matter, kindly do some research plzzz

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his family are over Arab people so if our true belief make us 'infidels' we are infidels. After death all of humans will understand Ahlulbayt (dear martyred family of the last prophet) are over or so called Arab caliphates.

Check these two Ayas from Quran for sake of God. Do you see 'Arab caliphates' or 'Household of Prophets' and 'Household of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)'?


Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of 'Imran over the worlds. 3:33

God only wishes to remove from you all that might be loathsome, O you family of prophet, and to purify you to utmost purity.
33:33

Think about these Ayas, Ahlulbayt 12 Imams (PBUT).

We believe what is in the Holy Book but not your point of view.

 

[Mamluk]

Are you out of your mind? Seriously Taliban are Salafis? Does not matter, kindly do some research plzzz

They are Salafi inspired. Like some fanatic Deobandis, most of the things they believe in are similar to Wahabis.

 

[el che]

Wahabism cannot be ignored. Saud family conquered Arabia with the assistance of Abd al wahab. This was a religious and political union which eventually succeeded in establishment of the rule of Saud family in Arabian peninsula. The aggression, intolerance played a key role in the attacks against shias. Then oil was discovered in early 19th century, followed by the close diplomatic relation with USA to protect the monarchy of the saud family.

With Saudi Arabia being the most important Islamic country and its historical association with wahabism, wahabism will continue to grow. The economic might of Saudi Arabia will ensure the spread of this sect.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Salafism itself is not a sect.

Sects that accepted and built upon the teachings of scholars like Ibn Taymiyah are Salafis. So Deobandi is a South Asian Salafi inspired school.

Wahabis are more extreme. That's why Taliban are not like Daesh.

More about forms of Salafism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement

Thanks but one more question.

Lashkar e Taiba are also Salafist (Ahl e Hadith ?) yet they too are not as extreme as ISIS. What about that ?

 

[SouI]

The pagan bedouin Arabs fought against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) for 18 years and after his demise martyred his closest relatives to gain power. 'It is nature of Arabs'not holy prophet and Islam.
Prophet even didn't order to attack Iran or Iraq, prophet sent Imam Ali (PBUH) to Yemen and Yemenis became Muslims by rational and speech of Imam Ali.

There has never been anyone in the middle east in the whole human history as peaceful as pagans. I wish pagans won against the barbarian attacks on their civilizations (Babil, Assyria, etc) that pretty much created the human civilization as a whole.

And then we saw how things turned out for that region, the region that created science and civilization turned into the most backwards and barbaric place you can ever find on the surface of this planet.


Sad.

 

[Mamluk]

Thanks but one more question.

Lashkar e Taiba are also Salafist (Ahl e Hadith ?) yet they too are not as extreme as ISIS. What about that ?

Ahl e Hadith are a Salafist group alright, but not Wahabbis.
Daesh are pure Wahabbis.

And then we saw how things turned out for that region, the region that created science and civilization turned into the most backwards and barbaric place you can ever find on the surface of this planet.

ME again become the world's center of science and civilization before Mongols invaded.

Just saying mainstream Islam is not against advancing the frontiers of science.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Shia muslims do not need real muslim certificate from others.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Ahl e Hadith are a Salafist group alright, but not Wahabbis.
Daesh are pure Wahabbis.

It's all damn complicated. How do you solve a problem if you cant even put a finger on it to recognize it.