Over 100 Sunni scholars declare Wahhabis to be outside mainstream [Sunni] Islam

[Aramagedon]

Over 100 Sunni scholars declare Wahhabis to be outside mainstream Sunni Islam – Chechnya

Posted by Talib Ghaffari

An International conference of Sunni scholars was held in Grozny, Chechnya, attended by more than 100 renowned Islamic scholars and Sunni shaykhs who came from Russia, Syria, Turkey, India, Egypt, Jordan, South Africa, United Kingdom and other countries.



Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Egypt, defined the mainstream Sunni Islam and excluded Wahhabis from it. He stated:

“Ahl as-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah are the Ash’arites and Muturidis (adherents of the theological systems of Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi and Imam Abul-Hasan al-Ash’ari). In matters of belief, they are followers of any of the four schools of thought (Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki or Hanbali) and are also the followers of the Sufism of Imam Junaid al-Baghdadi in doctrines, manners and [spiritual] purification.”

This statement implies that Salafists, also called Wahhabis, are not part of the mainstream Ahl as-Sunnah or Sunni Muslims, despite the fact that they are trying to hijack the term Sunni by labeling themselves as Sunni Muslims.

Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb also said: “Terrorists and Islam have no relation whatsoever, instead these terrorists are inclined towards spreading a radical ideology among Muslims, so that Islam is misunderstood world over.”

The conference was held on 25-27 August 2016 in the city of Grozny, organized by the president of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov.

Wahhabi clerics of the Saudi Kingdom are furious over this conference. Wahhabis of other countries have also been angered over it.

Some of the renowned shaykhs attending the conference include:

1. Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, president and grand Imam of the prestigious Islamic seminary Al-Azhar University of Cairo, Egypt
2. Shaikh Muhammad Saad al-Azhari, professor of Al-Azhar University
3. Shaykh Abu Bakr Ahmad, head of the largest Islamic seminary in Kerala, South India
4. Shaykh Anwar Ahmed al-Baghdadi, teacher at a large North Indian seminary Jamia Aleemiya
5. Habib Umar bin Hafiz, the leading Sufi shaykh of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order and head of the International Islamic seminary in Tarim, Yemen
6. Habib Ali al-Jifri, renowned Sunni scholar of UAE and one of the leading Sufi shaykhs of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order
7. Shaykh Ali Gomaa, ex Grand Mufti of Egypt
8. Kamil Samigullin, the chief Mufti of Tatarstan

Links
http://www.firstpost.com/world/isla...iating-themselves-from-salafists-2998018.html

 

[freeskylord]

I read that it was ibn tehmiya on whose basic ideology wahabism is developed by Wahab.

More over I want to know is it true that Ibn Tehmiya developed this ideology to counter mongols who invaded Arab and were changing Arabic culture?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I read that it was ibn tehmiya on whose basic ideology wahabism is developed by Wahab.

More over I want to know is it true that Ibn Tehmiya developed this ideology to counter mongols who invaded Arab and were changing Arabic culture?

you are right that Wahhabi and its other extremist strains take the basis from Ibn Tehmya but full blame on him is unfair for how petro dollar and violence has been used to kill millions of Muslims in a sectarian war in particcular and other unfortunate non-Muslims,,


I dont think Ibn Tayhmiya gave a flying fck to what the Mongols were doing to that part of the world. he had a certain thinking and was cunning and fortunate enough to find the influential audience to have his version of Islam planted on the people who ruled the Islamic world.

Over 100 Sunni scholars declare Wahhabis to be outside mainstream Sunni Islam – Chechnya

Posted by Talib Ghaffari

An International conference of Sunni scholars was held in Grozny, Chechnya, attended by more than 100 renowned Islamic scholars and Sunni shaykhs who came from Russia, Syria, Turkey, India, Egypt, Jordan, South Africa, United Kingdom and other countries.



Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Egypt, defined the mainstream Sunni Islam and excluded Wahhabis from it. He stated:

“Ahl as-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah are the Ash’arites and Muturidis (adherents of the theological systems of Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi and Imam Abul-Hasan al-Ash’ari). In matters of belief, they are followers of any of the four schools of thought (Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki or Hanbali) and are also the followers of the Sufism of Imam Junaid al-Baghdadi in doctrines, manners and [spiritual] purification.”

This statement implies that Salafists, also called Wahhabis, are not part of the mainstream Ahl as-Sunnah or Sunni Muslims, despite the fact that they are trying to hijack the term Sunni by labeling themselves as Sunni Muslims.

Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb also said: “Terrorists and Islam have no relation whatsoever, instead these terrorists are inclined towards spreading a radical ideology among Muslims, so that Islam is misunderstood world over.”

The conference was held on 25-27 August 2016 in the city of Grozny, organized by the president of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov.

Wahhabi clerics of the Saudi Kingdom are furious over this conference. Wahhabis of other countries have also been angered over it.

Some of the renowned shaykhs attending the conference include:

1. Shaykh Ahmed El-Tayeb, president and grand Imam of the prestigious Islamic seminary Al-Azhar University of Cairo, Egypt
2. Shaikh Muhammad Saad al-Azhari, professor of Al-Azhar University
3. Shaykh Abu Bakr Ahmad, head of the largest Islamic seminary in Kerala, South India
4. Shaykh Anwar Ahmed al-Baghdadi, teacher at a large North Indian seminary Jamia Aleemiya
5. Habib Umar bin Hafiz, the leading Sufi shaykh of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order and head of the International Islamic seminary in Tarim, Yemen
6. Habib Ali al-Jifri, renowned Sunni scholar of UAE and one of the leading Sufi shaykhs of the Ba-Alawiyah Sufi Order
7. Shaykh Ali Gomaa, ex Grand Mufti of Egypt
8. Kamil Samigullin, the chief Mufti of Tatarstan

Links
http://www.firstpost.com/world/isla...iating-themselves-from-salafists-2998018.html

dont post offensive and flame baiting cartoons. it will get your thread closed and trolled

 

[Aramagedon]

I read that it was ibn tehmiya on whose basic ideology wahabism is developed by Wahab.

More over I want to know is it true that Ibn Tehmiya developed this ideology to counter mongols who invaded Arab and were changing Arabic culture?

No he believed only "Arabs" are [true] Muslims and blood of other people even Sunni Muslims such as Syrian, Iraqis, Egyptian, etc.. is absolutely worthless. Must read these articles to understand reason of terrorism in the ME, Pak, Afghan and Islamic world, Great links:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5717157

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6501916

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/11/wahhabism-isis-how-saudi-arabia-exported-main-source-global-terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

 

[freeskylord]

I dont think Ibn Tayhmiya gave a flying fck to what the Mongols were doing to that part of the world. he had a certain thinking and was cunning and fortunate enough to find the influential audience to have his version of Islam planted on the people who ruled the Islamic world.

I read on wiki that it was ibn tehmya who started first Fatwa against mongols. Why? Because Mongols had converted themselvs into Muslims for Psywar and degrade arab after taking over Baghdad.
There fore Ibn Tehmya called the mongols Munafiq and persuaded others to confront them. Hence a new sectarian violence started.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

This people are doing the same thing what Wahabis do, that is declaring other sects Non muslims, semi muslims and quarter muslims........Doesn't anyone see the irony here?

 

[Azadkashmir]

wahabism mixed with petro-dollar has created alot of bangs.

 

[Malik Alashter]

This people are doing the same thing what Wahabis do, that is declaring other sects Non muslims, semi muslims and quarter muslims........Doesn't anyone see the irony here?

There is no irony in your comment since wahhabism is the one announce the takfeer of all muslims including there sunni brothers.

 

[Erhabi]

Why dont these so called Sunni scholars dont condemn Shias who spend day n night spewing BS and hatred against Sahabas?

 

[Prince of Dorne]

There is no irony in your comment since wahhabism is the one announce the takfeer of all muslims including there sunni brothers.

Buddy I am a non muslim and should be the last person to comment on muslim affairs, but don't you think world would have been a better place if muslims trusted God and left this Kafir, muslim BS for the God to judge?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

believed

Thank you for the link below. Great stuff ...

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-a...-arabia-exported-main-source-global-terrorism

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Buddy I am a non muslim and should be the last person to comment on muslim affairs, but don't you think world would have been a better place if muslims trusted God and left this Kafir, muslim BS for the God to judge?

Who said they were declared "Kafir"?

They just stated that Wahhabis can no longer consider themselves Sunnis as they contradict the Sunni schools of thought.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Who said they were declared "Kafir"?

They just stated that Wahhabis can no longer consider themselves Sunnis as they contradict the Sunni schools of thought.

A general observation....not specific to the news posted

 

[Al-Andalus]

"Wahhabism" was not mentioned with a single word during this Putin-sponsored "religious" conference. Nor is there anything called Wahhabism as nobody calls himself a "Wahhabi". It is merely the Hanbali fiqh which is 1 of the 4 recognized Sunni madahib. The other 3 being the Hanafi, Maliki and Shafi'i. There is more or less a full consensus about this among religious scholars and objective observers.

Besides modern-day KSA is the cradle of Islam and where all major sects of Islam originated from, whether it be Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Sufism or Islam as a whole. Which is also why you can find all major Islamic sects indigenously in KSA. I do not know a single majority-Muslim country where you can find indigenous communities of Sunni Shafi'is, Hanbalis (including Salafis), Malikis, Hanafis, Sufis, Shia Twelvers, Ismailis and Zaydis.

Why dont these so called Sunni scholars dont condemn Shias who spend day n night spewing BS and hatred against Sahabas?

Because they are more busy engaging in takfir themselves aimed at certain Salafis (militant jihadis). It might have something to do with the fact that most Salafis do not follow a fiqh blindly but first and foremost the Qur'an and ahadith.

Meanwhile in Mullah-ruled Iran their "Supreme Mullah" is equal to a Pope and his rulings have prevalence before anything else.

Let alone the 37 year old poisonous Wilayat al-Faqih system that has absolutely nothing to do with traditional Shia Twelver Islam. Case in point being Sistani's opposition against it and the traditional Shia Twelver Ulama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardianship_of_the_Islamic_Jurist

Meanwhile those mythical Wahhabis have been in control of Makkah and Madinah for almost 100 years and not the Wilayat al-Faqih lot. As much as they would love that to be the case it will never happen.

Who said they were declared "Kafir"?

They just stated that Wahhabis can no longer consider themselves Sunnis as they contradict the Sunni schools of thought.

Since when did Hanbalis stop being Sunni Muslims? Also what exactly do Hanbalis "contradict"? Care to elaborate or did you just make up your own homemade fatwa on PDF?

Are you saying that the Imams at Al-Masjid Al-Haram and Al-Masjid An-Nabawi are non-Muslims despite being some of the most knowledgeable and respected clerics in the Muslim world? Are you saying that their understanding of Islam is inferior to your own or even un-Islamic? If so you should prove that by using the Qur'an and Ahadith as a reference. So far I have never in my life, seen an honest and objective refutable of Hanbalis.

This people are doing the same thing what Wahabis do, that is declaring other sects Non muslims, semi muslims and quarter muslims........Doesn't anyone see the irony here?

That is the irony here.

Also I was of the opinion that religious discourse was banned. Move the discussion to Sunni doooot coooooom or Shia chat doooot cooom please, and argue with the keyboard Mullah's there. If you guys want more action I can give you the Arabic counterparts.

Lastly speaking about "religious conferences", the only conference of note in the modern era, that can be used for anything, is the Amman Message.

"The recognition of eight legal schools of sharia/fiqh (madhāhib) and the varying schools of Islamic theology viz.[5][6]

1. 1. Sunni Hanafi
   2. Sunni Maliki
   3. Sunni Shafi'i
   4. Sunni Hanbali
   5. Shia Jaʿfari
   6. Shia Zaydi
   7. Ẓāhirī
   8. Ibadi

   • Forbade declaring an apostate anyone who is a follower of:[5]

   1. the Ashʿari/Maturidi creed
   2. real Tasawwuf (Sufism)
   3. true Salafi thought
2. The forbiddance from pronouncing disbelief (takfir) upon (or excommunicating) others recognized as Muslims
3. The stipulations placed as preconditions to the issuing of religious edicts, intended to prevent the circulation of illegitimate edicts."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message

As for Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) he was an Syrian Arab himself and he never wrote anything about the superiority of any ethnicity or race let alone him looking down on fellow Arabs whether in his native Syria, neighboring Iraq or Egypt. His few controversial teachings (looking at it with modern-day glasses) are impossible to understand if you do not understand the period he lived under and the ENORMOUSLY GRAVE challenges the Arabs and Muslim heartlands felt. Thanks to the message of Ibn Taymiyyah (ra), among other things, the ISIS (1000 times worse than modern-day ISIS) of the Middle Ages (Mongols) were exterminated from the Arab world once and for all after a short but destructive presence (mainly in Baghdad and modern-day Iraq and parts of Syria only). A presence that helped send the Muslim world back centuries in time after being the foremost military, scientific, economic etc. power of the world for almost half a millennia before the Siege of Baghdad in 1258.
Thanks to God as otherwise the Arab Near East might have suffered from several million casualties as modern-day Iran did under the hands of the Mongols. Losing 25% of their entire population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_Khwarezmia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_under_the_Mongol_Empire

 

[Aramagedon]

This people are doing the same thing what Wahabis do, that is declaring other sects Non muslims, semi muslims and quarter muslims........Doesn't anyone see the irony here?

Terrorists, goons, thugs, beheaders, etc... ARE NOT Muslims.