Outdating the neighbours..

[arihant]

useless thread. I guess you are being here just from few days.

 

[Zeluvaa]

I would rather wait till the arsenal listed are already inducted before making a thread like this.

Most if not all of the listed items are still not procured and do not make any difference to current military situation. Some of the listed items may take upwards of a decade to be fully inducted, by which our "neighbours" would also have many advanced weapons.

Besides threads like these posted only for bragging do not add to any rational debate, they do not serve any purpose except flaming and useless arguments.

 

[kish]

My first suggestion is for you to go back to school and learn proper English.

Then, by logic, the above mentioned stuff is not fully here yet. Chinese and Pakistani members can too put up lists from future.

So don't open time wasting threads.

Pls forgive him for his english . . Because this not a english class . . If can deliver his thoughts than it means He know enough english . . . . U can guide him like other did instead of pointing his english

 

[Camdor]

First of all its not a useless thread, secondly none of us are here specialists, thirldly we can discuss on the combinations of these weapons, to give enemy a deep wound, at some level.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

My first suggestion is for you to go back to school and learn proper English.

Why dont you first advice this to some of your fellow countrymen who are so pathetic in spellings that they spell "enthusiasm" as "anthiosiasm"?

People over here lack manners and forget that small things can hurt someone.

My request to all members is that dont hurt anyone...if you dont like a thread just ignore it...no need to give your precious suggestions.

 

[!!craft!!]

guys i have opened this thread to discuss the the things which will be in india's arsenal which will outdated our neighbours..

my first list...and please every add some of which i have left..
1)Pak Fa
2)FGFA
3)C-130
4)C-17
5)MRCA
6)2 Aircraft carriers(Vikramaditys and vikranth)
7)6 scorpene Subs..
8)Arihant Nuke Sub
9)Brahmos 2
10)Barak 2
11)SPYDER
12)AAD
13)PAD
14)more Stealth frigates being Built
15)F-INSAS
16)P8i Sub Hunter
17)Air Launched Brahmos
18)Shaury Hypersonic 1500Kms
19)Phalcon and DRDO AWACS
20)AURA Stealth UCAV
..
please continue if u know some...

one advise.. respect your enemy!!!

 

[Mirza Jatt]

guys stop bullying the guy..he's new here..I am sure most of the new members have that kind of enthusiasm and they take pride in their country's arsenal..especially when you have a country with top of the rank weapons to be inducted..so its understandable.

 

[SomeGuy]

Let the guy have his moment.

He obviously doesn't realise the following things:

1. The "neighbours" already have equivalent stuff to some of the items on the list - e.g. nuke subs, stealth frigates & destroyers, long range cruise missiles, long range SAMs, an MRCA equivalent etc etc.
   
   
2. The "neighbours" have programs to create equivalent products - e.g. J-XX to your PAK-FA/FGFA, and an indigenous aircraft carrier program.
   
   
3. The "neighbours" have programs to counter some of your acquisitions - e.g. ASBM program could render your new aircraft carriers 'outdated' before they even enter service.

 

[Kinetic]

Let the guy have his moment.

He obviously doesn't realise the following things:

1. The "neighbours" already have equivalent stuff to some of the items on the list - e.g. nuke subs, stealth frigates & destroyers, long range cruise missiles, long range SAMs, an MRCA equivalent etc etc.
   
   
2. The "neighbours" have programs to create equivalent products - e.g. J-XX to your PAK-FA/FGFA, and an indigenous aircraft carrier program.
   
   
3. The "neighbours" have programs to counter some of your acquisitions - e.g. ASBM program could render your new aircraft carriers 'outdated' before they even enter service.

It should be "neighbor" not "neighbors". Other than China none of our neighbors has these.

1) There is no equivalent of MRCA in any of our neighbors including China their best fighter SU-30MKK s not as capable as MKI.

2) Does China has any stealth frigate or destroyer??? No.

3) China is far far behind that of Russia in aircraft technology. Both J-0 and J-11 are either using Russian techs or ToT. PAK FA has taken shape after decades of development and experiances like Berkut and MFI. So don't compare it with Chinese.

4) About ASBM, if we have to take your 'logic' than with Brahmos all of your current and future surface ships are out dated because you cannot protect yourself. Aircrafts carrier are heavily protected and you don't know this. Even against ballistic missile test.

 

[Tuahaa]

Oh, no!

The experienced members join the fight of Pak Arsenal vs India Arsenal!

 

[Kinetic]

Oh, no!

The experienced members join the fight of Pak Arsenal vs India Arsenal!

Did you mean me? If so, I didn't reply until the last post by 'some guy' was meant something specifically. OK fair enough, lets move out of this.

 

[mjnaushad]

 

[kingdurgaking]

Let the guy have his moment.

He obviously doesn't realise the following things:

1. The "neighbours" already have equivalent stuff to some of the items on the list - e.g. nuke subs, stealth frigates & destroyers, long range cruise missiles, long range SAMs, an MRCA equivalent etc etc.
   
   
2. The "neighbours" have programs to create equivalent products - e.g. J-XX to your PAK-FA/FGFA, and an indigenous aircraft carrier program.
   
   
3. The "neighbours" have programs to counter some of your acquisitions - e.g. ASBM program could render your new aircraft carriers 'outdated' before they even enter service.

i want to understand what is the equivalent the neighbors have for MMRCA..
And the neighbors have to understand that program J-XX exist and we will give credit once we see a credible news.. until then

and to neigbours ASBM program.. we have a more advanced program called Brahmos and sagarika which will make your entire navy kalas....


FYI we are not comparing anything in this thread but a discussion on what we have to do to make you outdated...

 

[Dash]

Did you mean me? If so, I didn't reply until the last post by 'some guy' was meant something specifically. OK fair enough, lets move out of this.

Why moving out?? we can still put up a show.....

 

[SomeGuy]

It should be "neighbor" not "neighbors". Other than China none of our neighbors has these.

1) There is no equivalent of MRCA in any of our neighbors including China their best fighter SU-30MKK s not as capable as MKI.

Your information is outdated.
True, MKK is not comparable to MKI, but that's yesterdays news.
Since then PLAAF has inducted MKK2 and J-11B.
J-11B is certainly in the same ball park as MKI.

2) Does China has any stealth frigate or destroyer??? No.

Actually, Yes, as a matter of fact, they do.
Not just Stealth frigates or destroyers but also stealth FAC as well.

Check it out:

Stealth Destroyers: Type 052B & Type 052C
Stealth Frigates: Type 054 & Type 054A
Stealth FAC: Type 022

These are already in service, who knows what else PLAN is working on?!

3) China is far far behind that of Russia in aircraft technology. Both J-0 and J-11 are either using Russian techs or ToT.

So far, far behind that they don't even bother buying Russian planes anymore (sarcasm).

J-10 is mostly indigenous - apart from engines (which eventually be replaced with indigenous engines anyway).

4) About ASBM, if we have to take your 'logic' than with Brahmos all of your current and future surface ships are out dated because you cannot protect yourself. Aircrafts carrier are heavily protected and you don't know this. Even against ballistic missile test.

Your logic is flawed.

An ASBM has an advantage of speed and range compared to Brahmos. It can be fired from land, well out of harms way.

Brahmos on the other hand is relatively short ranged.
It needs to be carried into range by a big ship or plane like MKI which isn't too stealthy at the best of times - even less so when carrying large Brahmos cruise missiles.

A modern "Aegis-like" destroyer such as the type 052c could detect the launch platform well before it came into range and take appropriate actions. Against future surface ships like an aircraft carrier it's gonna be more like a suicide mission for the attacker.