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Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

Is Martial Law/Emergency a real possibility after IK arrest?

  • Yes

    Votes: 145 63.6%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.4%

  • Total voters
    228
  • Poll closed .
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Valid Point ...

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what security? Pakistan is anything but secure. maybe the DHA they live in is hella secure. Thanks to our brave men who love mixing cement more than they do being diligent at their jobs.

lemme give you an example how many times has Pakistan army failed to secure Waziristan?

Khyber 1
Khyber 2
Khyber 3
Khyber 4
Zarb e Azab
Radd ul Fasad
Operation in 2023

Either our army sucks at doing their jobs or they keep bringing terrorists back so that our army can stay relevant and the state doesn’t just tell them to f off.

We don’t know what it’s like in Palestine and Kashmir? we don’t know what it’s like to have our streets be occupied by forces* shelling us, being left with nothing but stones to resort to.
Very easy to Bla Bla about loop holes
Historically these areas were never taken over like our forces did,
Comparatively identical type of elements let Soviets and Americans meet the dust of defeat.
You have fences and then menaces
Your justification is fallacy for political correctness
No more to argue with people trying to bring angel out of devils factory and calling him leader.
Shenanigans to make you feel better that there is some saint in our country who can be savior.
 
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What a shameful picture...

An institute, which always have been given the lion share in finances on the expense of our public, an institute which we all loved, even if it proved to an entirely different ugly version afterwards. Lanat.

I think, after firing at and killing the citizens of our land, all limits have been crossed. If the administration has turned out to be tyrants, we shouldn't be afraid to take steps in fighting. After all we are Muslims, have we forgetten about Islamic warriors and martyrs? Ali ibn e Talib? Hussain ibn e Ali? Umar Farooq?
 
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and state terrorism is that the swine british colonial remnant army grabbed a privately owned property and refused to hand it back to bloody civilians.
The honorable or civilized way would have been to fight for that cause peacefully rather than burn it down to the ground
 
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I wonder why this is the case? In most countries including our rival India generals are patriots who want to defend their country. Meanwhile in our country they sell it to foreigners.
Mir Jaffars are motivated by greed.. its our duty to remove this cancer that has been oppressing us for this long. Revolution is the only antidote..
 
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I wonder why this is the case? In most countries including our rival India generals are patriots who want to defend their country. Meanwhile in our country generals sell the country to foreigners.
Because Unlike our Haramkhore Generals there is no Indian COAS enjoying his life in Luxury overseas. All the Rot in Pakistani Institutions is due to Lust for Plot and passport. The biggest National Security threat are these high serving former 3 stars and 4 stars who are settled overseas.
 
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The sense which your talking about is not being allow to develop by this system. Rtrd Army cheif said pak does not have enough oil to operate tanks. Then why VT-4 tank are buying ? why not invest this money on education ?

Awaam will prevail and IK will abolish this Military interference n hang choor dakait including PAPA jhons owners.
Ugly truth

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I agree with your photo. As pointed out in here, Pakistan is not a nation but a collection of political forces having competing interests. This has allowed the Establishment to reign supreme and do its bidding.


But do you think Imran Khan's politics exist and function in vacuum?



Repeat of the same old story with new faces.

PTI-led government made some good calls such as Daimer-Bhasha Dam construction, Ehsaas Program, Ten billion tree plantation initiative, and the right to vote for overseas Pakistani.

Now following is a list of blunders of the PTI-led government:

1. PTI-led government was built on support of political opportunists who hijacked PTI mandate for political benefits such as Tareen group and Aleem Khan group. Both are not a part of PTI anymore but the damage has been done.
2. Buzdar gambit
3. Taliban gambit
4. Corruption scandals including Sugar Mafia scandal and Peshawar Metro corruption scandal. No wonder Pakistan's Corruption rating worsened.
5. Reference against Justice Faez Isa - more in here.
6. Cypher gambit in view of the No Confidence motion in Parliament which added to tensions between US and Pakistan.

There was no accountability for those involved in high profile corruption scandals under PTI-led government because it had corrupt elements within. Nawaz Sharif was also allowed to leave the country.

WE see just another military-backed political experiment that failed due to tussle between then COAS Q. J. Bajwa and Khan.

I could see what was going on but some of the PTI activists on PDF called me names and worse. Some are trying to hijack the narrative on PDF and calling for death and destruction inside Pakistan because PTI lost the plot with the Establishment.

Many of you live in foreign countries and have no idea what is happening in Pakistan and how sentiments vary across the country.

PDM is yet another military-backed political experiment that has failed.


I have conveyed this view in the relevant circles outside PDF; not many can do this.

My stance is that it is not a matter of joke to go out on the streets and overthrow institutions as all can see in Egypt, Iraq, and Iran. Foreign intervention will be required but this is destructive and treasonous pathway as all can see in Iraq, Libya, and Syria.

I am not sure what fate has in store for Khan in the future but I acknowledge that Khan is charismatic and has the capacity to create a nation. But if Khan is to create a nation, PTI needs to show restraint, learn from its past mistakes, open a website in which Khan should request Pakistani local researchers to explain Pakistan's various problems and how to address them, and focus on preparing for the General Elections.

Khan might not agree with War On Terror but he should seek a review on why it happened, reasons for drone strikes in Pakistan, Why Pakistan has failed to curb terrorism, and what is the way forward for Pakistan in this matter. This fact-finding initiative should be authentic and not grounded in conspiracy theories. This is important for Pakistan's international standing and image.

Muslims need to understand that when promises are made to another party, it is important to fulfill them because this is a matter of having honor and integrity. This is an important Islamic principle. But how many understand Islam to begin with? How many have attempted to understand what is mentioned in the Holy Quran? NOT MANY.

Don't fall for the hypocritical perceptions of the tribal belt - many in this region supported terrorists and then cried wolf. Now you see Taliban groups giving a shit about Pakistan's national interests? These self-absorbed groups care about their own interests. The Ummah Chummah thinking continues to backfire on Pakistan big time. These are the times in which every entity has to think about itself.

PTI needs to figure out HOW to rebuild bilateral relations with the US if it wins in next General Elections. This is a step in the right direction. There might be additional avenues of common interest to explore. Bloc politics does not suit Pakistan.

In the end, all is in the hands of Allah Almighty. WE can have good intentions and hope for the best.

He used very inappropriate language, and you are telling him that he's a nice guy and emotions are getting to him so "let's talk".

What I am saying is, a lot of others are banned since yesterday for using far lesser inappropriate language. Instead of course correction, you resort to personal attacks on me.

I'm no longer going to argue with you as clearly it's just useless. Have fun facilitating and have "talks" with boot lickers on this forum.

Is OP a criminal and have cases registered against him a court? I reached out to him because he is upset and misunderstood my response to him. I called him out on insulting another member and he had also received a strike from another Mod in case you forgot.

Those who have received strikes in this thread need to reflect on their statements for a change.

I completely understand that Imran Khan is being mistreated with a plethora of false charges leveled on him. Attempts were made on his life not long ago, and his recent arrest is controversial.

But Khan is not alone in his suffering. Many of the great leaders have had suffered at the hands of others but showed restraint. Take a look at the case of Nelson Mandela.



Nation-building mission is not an easy task.

Nation-building does not happen on the backdrop of a tainted legacy - see my response above your statement to understand what is the problem.

Anybody who can see faults in PTI narrative is a boot-licker in the country? Excellent logic.
Mobilizing protestors to burn down infrastructure and state institutions upon arrest of Imran Khan? How has it worked out?
Living in a foreign country but calling for death and destruction in Pakistan? Political hypocrisy.

Again! This is Pakistan Defense Forum, not PTI Defense Forum.

PTI has popular vote but it has to REBOOT its political regime with a SYSTEM OF INTERNAL ACCOUNTABILITY and PROVE to the ENTIRE COUNTRY that it can bring about legitimate change in the country if given another chance in General Elections. Hypocrisy does not works as noted above. What is the FUTURE of PTI if Khan is not in the picture? What PTI has to sell to the masses if Khan is not in the picture?

And honestly - anything less then TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY is not good enough.

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@Riz
@Black.Mamba
@Abid123
@SaadH
@SecularNationalist
@Imran Khan

Simmer down.

Don't want to budge in but this type of name calling does not suit a moderator. I mean you do realize that youthia is basically anyone that supports Khan.

I have edited my post.
 
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The honorable thing would have been to fight for that cause peacefully rather than burn it down to the ground
The honorable thing would have been for the Amy to stop acting like a fascist Junta, stop violating the constitution, stop its manipulation and rigging of the political process, stop its manipulation and destruction of civilian institutions like law enforcement, judiciary and the media and NOT subject innocent Pakistanis to abductions, torture and murder.

Your anger should be directed at the root cause behind the protests, the disease that is the Pakistan Army, and not the symptoms.
 
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