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[abjktu]

Veda vyasa is immortal figuratively not literally. He is immortal because he was the one who took the massive collection of knowledge called the veda's and split them into the 4 veda's we know today.

His real name was Krishna because he was dark skinned, Also know as Krishna Dvaipayana because he was born in a dvipa (island) to a Rishi father (Rishi parasara) and fisher women mother.

Since he is the ultimate guru who helped students learn the veda's separately, his birthday is celebrated as Guru Purnima. Either that or the day he became "Veda vyasa" when he separated the vedas into 4 body of works.

Anybody who studied the veda's gets reborn, its called Dvija. That is why Hindu's are twice born and have the thread ceremony. (Yajnopavitam)

Maybe its time to consider that Adi Shankara mastered the vedas when he was really young and was reborn as if Veda vyasa gave him life.

BTW Vishnu puran says the Veda's have been arranged and rearranged 28 times, so there are 28 Veda vayasa's.

I just wish RSS had done a better job of educating you. Would have saved me a tot of time and effort.



If you believe in Malayali nationalism you should be fighting to end the religious discrimination in kerala instead of defending it.

Why would I have a venomous attitude towards Malayalis when my wife, child, mother, father and brother is a malayali ?

yeah,i am trying..but it may takes some time....
ohh,so you are Malayali now??..you may be born to a Malayali parents and has Malayali wife but that doesn't meaning that you are Malayali(Malayali means those who speak Malayalam as their mother tongue)....
ohh,i think you are just like 'chupiramanian chami(though a born Tamil,but don't miss a single occasion to mock Tamils and their culture)..a traitor..no wonder,you became a fan of him...

 

[Makaramarma]

yeah,i am trying..but it may takes some time....
ohh,so you are Malayali now??..you may be born to a Malayali parents and has Malayali wife but that doesn't meaning that you are Malayali(Malayali means those who speak Malayalam as their mother tongue)....
ohh,i think you are just like 'chupiramanian chami(though a born Tamil,but don't miss a single occasion to mock Tamils and their culture)..a traitor..no wonder,you became a fan of him...

..... are you issuing certificates of Malayalee ness now ?

Your every post makes you look like a fool. Why not follow the old adage that its better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than open your mouth and confirm their doubts.

As I said, stop wasting my time. If you want t learn something, ask nicely and I will oblige. Your poor attempts at insolence gets you nothing. Time to grow up.

 

[abjktu]

..... are you issuing certificates of Malayalee ness now ?

Your every post makes you look like a fool. Why not follow the old adage that its better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than open your mouth and confirm their doubts.

As I said, stop wasting my time. If you want t learn something, ask nicely and I will oblige. Your poor attempts at insolence gets you nothing. Time to grow up.

why not..if you could issue certificates for hindu ness and Indian ness..then,why can't i??
firstly,you claimed that vastu sasthra has nothing to do with Hinduism...
then,you howled that vedas are not hindu religious text,just only a book of knowledge..but both proven wrong later...go and read at least one or two pages of ramayanam or mahabharatham...

 

[Makaramarma]

why not..if you could issue certificates for hindu ness and Indian ness..then,why can't i??
firstly,you claimed that vastu sasthra has nothing to do with Hinduism...
then,you howled that vedas are not hindu religious text,just only a book of knowledge..but both proven wrong later...go and read at least one or two pages of ramayanam or mahabharatham...

You have poor comprehension skills and even poorer logic.

1. Vastu sasthra is a book on architect, not Hinduism. That is what I said and there is no dispute about it.

2. Wolves howles, dogs bark and fools get played.

3. Veda's MEANS Knowledge. That is just sanskrit, not me. Knowledge includes religion, philosophy, architecture, medicine, etc...

4. Your Ignorance and limited ability to understand and prejudice is your burden. Stop make it others burden.

5. STOP wasting my time by repeating yourself.

 

[abjktu]

You have poor comprehension skills and even poorer logic.

1. Vastu sasthra is a book on architect, not Hinduism. That is what I said and there is no dispute about it.

2. Wolves howles, dogs bark and fools get played.

3. Veda's MEANS Knowledge. That is just sanskrit, not me. Knowledge includes religion, philosophy, architecture, medicine, etc...

4. Your Ignorance and limited ability to understand and prejudice is your burden. Stop make it others burden.

5. STOP wasting my time by repeating yourself.

please,don't waste my time too,its you who are ignorant.. Sthapatyaveda
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Sthapatyaveda, also called Shilpa Veda, is the Upa
Veda (supplementary branch) of Atharva Veda.
Sthapatyaveda deals with planning, designing, and
construction of houses, villages, and cities. Vaastu
Shastra, the Indian science of Architecture, has its
origin in Sthapatyaveda.
Sthapatya means establishing, and Veda means
knowledge. Sthapatyaveda means establishing a
relationship between the dweller, dwelling and
cosmos. This relationship maintains a cosmic order
between the dweller, dwelling and cosmos. This is
the same knowledge that was used to design temples ,
houses and cities.
Ancient civilizations around the world were
influenced by this architecture, remnants of which
still exist.

Are you claiming that vedas/vastu sasthras are not a part of rich Hindu heritage??
don't quote me again..vandanam..

You have poor comprehension skills and even poorer logic.


3. Veda's MEANS Knowledge. That is just sanskrit, not me. Knowledge includes religion, philosophy, architecture, medicine, etc...

I am only an SSLC,ITI holder..surely have some English comprehension skills..
but its you argued that vedas has nothing to do with Hinduism. The Vedas are considered the oldest Hindu texts.
Scholars believe that they were written down some
2,500 years ago, though the tradition often dates them
to the beginning of Kali-yuga (circa 3000 BCE). Some
Hindus say that there was originally only one Veda, the
Yajur, which was later divided into four. Scholars,
however, usually consider the Rig-Veda the oldest of all
Hindu writings. The following is an overview of the four
Vedas.

 

[Makaramarma]

please,don't waste my time too,its you who are ignorant.. Sthapatyaveda
From Hindupedia, the Hindu Encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Sthapatyaveda, also called Shilpa Veda, is the Upa
Veda (supplementary branch) of Atharva Veda.
Sthapatyaveda deals with planning, designing, and
construction of houses, villages, and cities. Vaastu
Shastra, the Indian science of Architecture, has its
origin in Sthapatyaveda.
Sthapatya means establishing, and Veda means
knowledge. Sthapatyaveda means establishing a
relationship between the dweller, dwelling and
cosmos. This relationship maintains a cosmic order
between the dweller, dwelling and cosmos. This is
the same knowledge that was used to design temples ,
houses and cities.
Ancient civilizations around the world were
influenced by this architecture, remnants of which
still exist.

Are you claiming that vedas/vastu sasthras are not a part of rich Hindu heritage??
don't quote me again..vandanam..

I am only an SSLC,ITI holder..surely have some English comprehension skills..
but its you argued that vedas has nothing to do with Hinduism. The Vedas are considered the oldest Hindu texts.
Scholars believe that they were written down some
2,500 years ago, though the tradition often dates them
to the beginning of Kali-yuga (circa 3000 BCE). Some
Hindus say that there was originally only one Veda, the
Yajur, which was later divided into four. Scholars,
however, usually consider the Rig-Veda the oldest of all
Hindu writings. The following is an overview of the four
Vedas.

1. Intelligence has nothing to do with education.

2. Prejudice and Logic has nothing to do with education either. Your education or lack of it gets you neither brownie points nor sympathy. Stop over sharing.

3. Stop using straw-man defence in your attempt to debate. It is painfully obvious. (Strawman is when you put words in others mouth and then claim victory).

4. Everything that comes out of India is part of the rich Hindu heritage. It is just not part of the Hindu religion. How difficult can this be to understand ?

5. Stop obsessing over me. Like someone else here you cannot decided if you love me or hate me. Decide. Either way stop bugging me.

6. If you want to learn, I would be happy to teach. But first get rid of your prejudice that clouds your judgement and disrupts your logic.

 

[Indrani]

yeah,i am trying..but it may takes some time....
ohh,so you are Malayali now??..you may be born to a Malayali parents and has Malayali wife but that doesn't meaning that you are Malayali(Malayali means those who speak Malayalam as their mother tongue)....
ohh,i think you are just like 'chupiramanian chami(though a born Tamil,but don't miss a single occasion to mock Tamils and their culture)..a traitor..no wonder,you became a fan of him...

Dr. Subramanian Swamy is the greatest Tamil there is out there today. A through and through Indian patriot.

 

[Indrani]

@sandy_3126

Tu ShivajiBhosale la ka ban kelas? Tho khara bolto mahnun? Tyani tas kahi bolah nahi je koni aggdi boleh nahi. Tuni je tyala uttar dila, tyat phakta empty rhetoric hota. Kay state administration cha failure baghe bolto tu. Do you think America with all its resources will handle a population of 200 million radicalized Muslims? Is it possible without turning any country into a draconian police state?

 

[nair]

Ithuvare ithu kazhinjille?

 

[SirHatesALot]

@sandy3126

Tu ShivajiBhosale la ka ban kelas? Tho khara bolto mahnun? Tyani tas kahi bolah nahi je koni aggdi boleh nahi. Tuni je tyala reply dila, tyat phakta empty rhetoric hota. Kay state administration cha failure baghe bolto tu. Do you think America with all its resources will handle a population of 200 million radicalized Muslims? Is it possible without turning any country into a draconian police state?

@sandy_3126

 

[Indrani]

@sandy_3126

Thanks. I was wondering why that did not work.

@abjktu

Who is that in your DP?

 

[MilSpec]

@sandy_3126

Tu ShivajiBhosale la ka ban kelas? Tho khara bolto mahnun? Tyani tas kahi bolah nahi je koni aggdi boleh nahi. Tuni je tyala uttar dila, tyat phakta empty rhetoric hota. Kay state administration cha failure baghe bolto tu. Do you think America with all its resources will handle a population of 200 million radicalized Muslims? Is it possible without turning any country into a draconian police state?

Are you implying that India has 200 million radicalized muslims? That is quite insulting to the muslim community. The question is not of India or america, the question that the member had posed was hindus being oppressed in certain states by muslims. Safety, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of earning an honest livelihood are fundamental human rights which need to be ensured by the state, and failure in doing such is a failure of law and order. As far as negative ratings and post reports are concerned, i neither agree with the content nor with the repeated offensive words used to describe Muslims in the post.

the member in question was consistently using foul moniker for Muslims in general. There is no space of such language in any civilized discourse.

regards

 

[Indrani]

Are you implying that India has 200 million radicalized muslims? That is quite insulting to the muslim community. The question is not of India or america, the question that the member had posed was hindus being oppressed in certain states by muslims. Safety, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of earning an honest livelihood are fundamental human rights which need to be ensured by the state, and failure in doing such is a failure of law and order. As far as negative ratings and post reports are concerned, i neither agree with the content nor with the repeated offensive words used to describe Muslims in the post.

the member in question was consistently using foul moniker for Muslims in general. There is no space of such language in any civilized discourse.

regards

Yes, I am implying that. They may not yet be at the stage of waging a war with the country, but their sympathies and language and attitude do point to that fact. State is made up of people by the participation and involvement of the people. It is not a nebulous thing which exists on its own without their consent or participation. No state cannot guarantee the livelihood, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, of freedom of earning when it has not enough resources to do so. There is no Akshaya Patra available with the govt that will magically provide all these things or oceans of oil under the Indian land mass. It cannot do so when a big section of the population does not identify with the country. Just by becoming a Sonia Gandhi and defining everything as a right, it does not become a reality.

 

[MilSpec]

Yes, I am implying that. They may not yet be at the stage of waging a war with the country, but their sympathies and language and attitude do point to that fact. State is made up of people by the participation and involvement of the people. It is not a nebulous thing which exists on its own without their consent or participation. No state cannot guarantee the livelihood, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, of freedom of earning when it has not enough resources to do so. There is no Akshaya Patra available with the govt that will magically provide all these things or oceans of oil under the Indian land mass. It cannot do so when a big section of the population does not identify with the country. Just by becoming a Sonia Gandhi and defining everything as a right, it does not become a reality.

comprehension?
read again:
the question that the member had posed was hindus being oppressed in certain states by muslims. Safety, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of earning an honest livelihood are fundamental human rights which need to be ensured by the state, and failure in doing such is a failure of law and order.
freedom not guarantee, IPC and laws associated exists solely to provide security, fundamental rights, and deterence against criminal behavior. As far your oily retort, fundamental rights are non-existent in resource rich oil countries.

 

[Indrani]

comprehension?
read again:
the question that the member had posed was hindus being oppressed in certain states by muslims. Safety, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of earning an honest livelihood are fundamental human rights which need to be ensured by the state, and failure in doing such is a failure of law and order.
freedom not guarantee, IPC and laws associated exists solely to provide security, fundamental rights, and deterence against criminal behavior. As far your oily retort, fundamental rights are non-existent in resource rich oil countries.

Stop living in a fool's world.

These freedoms cannot be guaranteed just because they are in the books because the state cannot enforce them without adequate resources at its disposal. Comprehension?

Can we expand the number of people involved in the law and administration of this country to such an extent that there is adequate police cover and adequate justice system for speedy disposal of the cases? The state as it is now totters at providing wages to its already existent skeletal employees. Of the 500 million workforce available in India, only about 3-4 million are employed by the govt. Do you think we can build enough jails to imprison all the dilettantes ala USA? Will the state be able to afford that prison population?

Do you want Indians to stop eating food 6 days a week so that they can pay salaries to the gargantuan police and justice system which will ensure law and order?