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Oslo attacker Anders Breivik and Eur. right's hate-filled rhetoric

i too agree on that, but when you directly accuse them of their actions they won't accpet its their fault, to first make them accpet that they have a fault they have to find and excuse then only they can be brought to the right side on the modern times. else its dificult and the fight of words in internet and fight of fist and bullets will happen in the real world.

as far as i have seen...when you dont blame them...they dont care about it and continue do the same practises........the muslims must introspect about themselves and their practise of religion before blaming others of islamophobia....
 
Pakistani Norwegians are one of the most progressive people out there, perfectly integrated, & even more progressive than Pakistani Americans from what I've heard.
No we are not perfect intergrated in eyes of Norwegains but Pakistanies are doing very well. For 10 years ago Pakistanies were involved in gang and drug wars. Family conflict from Pakistan were taken inn Norway. Some of us still hold on force marriage, honor killings etc. But last 5+ years it has been big change more and more are trying to get education and more more ppl have good jobs. Pakistani doing well in all sectors. We are lucky to living in Norway were its easy to get work if u have high education. Its balance between Norwegain culture and our culture which isnt working that well but progress there too. I think friday terror attack will help to come closer and accept what we are.
 
Wow Indians are dirty bastards.Sucking dick of this criminal/terrorist just because he said something against Pakistan.Too bad for Indians though these clowns can't tell the difference between Pakistani and Indians don't worry you might as well end up getting killed if nuts like him goes on killing spree of Muslims in Europe.

Wow you could have just written "BAN ME PLEASE!"
 
Not really, for every guy like this, 100's of fundies strike.
Kind of like if you have two types of aircraft. One has crashed five times, the other five-thousand. Wich is safer?
There is a reason people assume it's islamist every time...because USUALLY it is!

Saying who ? a american who have killed more civilian than any other terrorist group. How many were killed in 9/11 ( falase flag operation ) ? 3000 ? How many lifes have American taken since 9/11 ? And not to mention all other which came with WOT. Its ur policy, ur greed, ur power crazy goverment who have bring us were we are today. And country u call USA is on a land which is not even urs and what did happend to Indians ? They got wiped out. Just look at opernation name for fake osama drama and that show USA dont even regret what they have done. They even suppot Isreal who is doing same or worst what Americans did to USA.
 
He was also a fan of World of Workraft, Dexter, Adam Smith, Kafka and Putin. So what? Unless this kind of terror becames systematic you can draw any conclusions at all.
 
He was also a fan of World of Workraft, Dexter, Adam Smith, Kafka and Putin. So what? Unless this kind of terror becames systematic you can draw any conclusions at all.

Oohh, I love WoW :D
 
lol, third eye, are you actually believing in this brainwashed crusader terrorist???

what, now will you believe what osama bin laden has to say???

i mean how pathetic indians can get, first they accused this anders guy of being a jehadi islamic terrorist, then they started calling him a kill and murderer but not a terrorist, and now they are proudly posting his sayings and quotations like their bhagwat gita???

Do you read from your backside or what? Read what he's written in blue color rather than ranting bullshit about India and Indians in general. Third Eye has just posted an article about what this Anders guy had written before committing the mass murder that he did in his country. You say that all are pointing at you. But you lot are so insecure about yourself that you cannot exist one moment without being anti-India.

This is called a complex. Now turn around and use your eyes to re-read what Third Eye has written as his persona opinion. He's as much condemning Anders as anyone else for his act of horror.
 
None of the reasons mentioned below explains or justifies his acts !

Oslo attacker feared

KARACHI:

Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed more than 90 people in two attacks in Oslo, was mortally terrified of the idea of several ‘mini Pakistans’ appearing all over the map of Europe.

In a 1,600-page manifesto titled ‘2083: A European Declaration of Independence’, Breivik laid out a stark picture of the future of Europe, citing poor human rights in Pakistan as the fate of the continent. Norwegian authorities confirmed on Sunday that the manifesto was written by Breivik.

In his doomsday scenario for Europe, Breivik predicts that several ‘mini-Pakistans’ would be created all over Europe by 2083, one in each country due to ‘Lebanon-style’ conflicts. “It could be similar to the division of India after World War II, with the creation of one or several Islamic ‘Pakistan’ enclaves,” he says.

While Breivik’s rhetoric against Muslim immigration into Europe is not unusual, he cites many names that might be familiar to Pakistanis, including Allama Muhammad Iqbal and Maulana Abul Ala Maududi, as well as prominent human rights activist Hina Jilani and Dawn columnist Irfan Hussain.

He seems to believe that Iqbal, in particular, was sympathetic to communism and views multiculturalism as a Marxist concept. He quotes Iqbal as saying “Islam equals communism plus Allah.”

Breivik also claims that Pakistan is systematically annihilating all non-Muslim communities. He claimed that Hindu girls are being forced to convert to Islam in Sindh. In this context he even quotes Hina Jilani as saying: “Have you ever heard of an Indian Muslim girl being forced to embrace Hinduism? It’s Muslims winning by intimidation.”

He goes on to describe the situation for Christians in Pakistan as being no better, citing Father Emmanuel Asi of the Theological Institute for Laity in Lahore as saying in 2007 that Pakistani Christians are frequently denied equal rights.

Jamaat-e-Islami founder Abul Ala Maududi is also quoted in the manifesto, though in a manner that would imply that the stated objective of an Islamic state is to kill or subdue all non-Muslims around the world.

Breivik seems to be a fan of Daily Times columnist Razi Azmi, whom he calls “one of the more sensible columnists of Pakistan”. He mentions one of Azmi’s pieces where the columnist asks whether it was possible to imagine a Muslim converting to Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism in a Muslim country, using it to support his view of Islam as an intolerant religion.

He also cites Dawn’s Irfan Hussain’s column criticising Hizb u-Tahrir’s vision of a caliphate.

His ire against Pakistanis and Muslims seems to have at least partial origin in personal experience. He speaks at length about his childhood best friend, a Pakistani Muslim immigrant to Norway who, despite having lived several years in Europe still appeared to resent Norway and Norwegian society. “Not because he was jealous… but because it represented the exact opposite of Islamic ways,” Breivik conjectures.

The inability of Muslim immigrants to assimilate into European society seems to bother him, which he blames on Muslim parents not allowing their children to adopt European ways. He also asks why Muslim girls are considered ‘off-limits’ to everyone, including Muslim boys, and why Muslim men view ethnic Norwegian women as ‘whores’.

He also seems to believe that the Muslims in Europe who collect government benefits view it as a form of jizya, a medieval Islamic tax charged on non-Muslim minorities.

He rails against multiculturalism, which he blames for making immigration too easy for Muslims in Europe. “When the veil of multiculturalism disappears, it will be Pakistanis who live in London, Turks who live in Berlin, Algerians who live in Paris and Moroccans who live in Amsterdam. And then the show begins,” he says.

That show, he says, is a dramatic demographic shift that he calls the ‘Pakistanisation of Europe’.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 25th, 2011.

dissapointed you posted this piece and somehow trying to lay the blame on Pakistan. i had respect for you but i dont anymore! bye!
 
dissapointed you posted this piece and somehow trying to lay the blame on Pakistan. i had respect for you but i dont anymore! bye!

Mate! he's just trying to point out what was recorded by a Pakistani source. Why are you shooting the messenger? Check his opinion on the top of his article.
 
Guys! honestly how do you say ISLAMIC terrorist, Islam has no terrorist and Muslim are not terrorist. I am a Muslim and follow Islamic religion and it doesn't mean I am terrorist. Neither Jews are terrorist, nor Muslim, Christians, Buddhist, Hindu blah blah. Terrorists are arshole who are used by other arsholes to snatch innocent's rights.
Peace for everyone!
 
dissapointed you posted this piece and somehow trying to lay the blame on Pakistan. i had respect for you but i dont anymore! bye!

Well, I too had respect for you for being objective. Can't say that anymore.

What is the problem in reading / replicating what a Pakistani paper says ?

I cannot understand the response from someone like you. If the article were written by a non Pakistani and / or published in a non - Pakistani news paper one could understand the indignation.
 
I don't understand why everyone is ragging on third eye for posting this article when he clearly said these aren't his views. What's even more pathetic is the attempts to stereotype all Indians as "anti-Muslim". The same bigoted mentality that this killer had...
 
How many muslims were killed by the attacker?
 

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