Osama not a terrorist: Ex-ISI chief

[Panther 57]

the likes of Hamid Gul are a shame we have to live with and our Indian friends have full right to have a field day over such comments
but then again its so trivial. we got trains being renamed under the terrorist names, the multiple murderers walking out smiling with flowers being showered on them and our former COAS facing case after case of "murder" charges for conducting operations against the terrorists.


but there is something else I have to point out to the banana party here as well.
had he said the same thing back in 1983 or 1984 then it wont have looked that odd, since the organisation Al Qaeda was named and even funded by CIA and their ISI colleagues always sat together in Islamabad and Peshawar discussing how to fund those former "mojahideen" against the Soviet heretics.


in the end I must say. thank God that this "sensitive" man is no longer with us, his sensitivity has harmed Muslims far more than the "evil" crusaders, he was claiming to fight.

What he says is not wrong. Osama was the darling baby of USA/CIA and worked like hand and glove. it was only when USA wanted to attack Afghanistan Al-Quida was named. Or probably the baby got out of control. And during the days of blue eyes HG was in contact with him, at least he is not like US, who abandoned OBL after the job was done.
In my view Gen HG should now spend his life like any other retired officer, play golf and relax. He should stop poking his nose in this affair.

 

[Ayush]

ya,he was a freedom fighter..

 

[nair]

ya,he was a freedom fighter..

Well i heard that term somewhere

 

[Ayush]

Well i heard that term somewhere

for militants

 

[Cheetah786]

31 August 2013

‘Mullah Omar is Pak’s trump card, Nawaz can’t ignore K-issue’

Islamabad: Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was not a terrorist, but a sensitive person who cared for the Muslim Umma and what was happening to them in the post-9/11 period, said Pakistan’s former Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt.Gen. (Retired) Hamid Gul.

In an interview given to Dunya News, Lt. Gen. Gul did not admit, but said that if the accusation by the U.S.that Pakistan, and specifically the ISI, had supported Osama bin Laden and his terror activities, which eventually resulted in the launching of the global war on terror in the last few months of 2001, then it is a feather in the ISI’s cap.

“If that was the case, it proves that the ISI is a successful organisation, and we do not see Osama bin Laden as a terrorist,” he said.

Gul also described Taliban leader Mullah Omar as Pakistan’s “trump card”.
“If we (Pakistan) did not have influence with the Afghan Taliban, do you think that the United States would be asking Pakistan to mediate with the Afghan Taliban for the post-2014 scenario. Instead, they would be talking to India, “ he said.

“I am repeatedly telling you that Pakistan is at an important stage in history and we need to use and play to our strengths. India is on the wrong side of geography and history,” he added.

Lt. Gen. Gul further said that fencing along the Line of Control (LoC) that separates Pakistan and India should be torn down immediately, and criticised Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on what he termed his pro-India stance and utterrances.

“Instead, Sharif is keeping quiet, while our (Pakistan) soldiers are being killed,” he said in apparent reference to the recent alleged ceasefire violations by India along the LoC.

He questioned the need for Sharif to say that Pakistan and India have the same culture.
“That is absolute rubbish. India worships the cow and we eat its meat,” he said while pointedly highlighting the differences between the two countries.

When told that Sharif has the mandate of the people of Pakistan to look for ways to establish and enhance peace with India, Lt. Gen. Gul outrightly rejected this by saying, “Who gave him (Nawaz Sharif) this mandate? This is a lie. Pakistan never voted Nawaz Sharif into office for him to put Kashmir on the backburner, and to promote ties with India”.

“He (Nawaz Sharif) cannot ignore the core issue of Kashmir. The Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) has a legitimate right to pick up arms against India. It is their freedom struggle,” he concluded.

Osama not a terrorist: Ex-ISI chief - Rising Kashmir

 

[Cheetah786]

Well this guy was ISI chief.....No wonder pakistan is in the mess right now.....



My dear friend.... Zaid Hamid is a self proclaimed "Defence Analyst"...... But our man is an EX ISI chief.....

Yes appointed by Ex Raw agent General Zia

 

[Amaa'n]

Hamid Gul was a close buddy of our boy Osama - so such statements had to be made.....

 

[junaid1]

One more evidence of Pakistan being neck deep in fanning terrorism across the world.

and we r proud of it .they are doing best for the country. U.S is not trusted ally.We must strengthen our relations with Talibans.After all they will head the Govt in 2014.

 

[Slayer786]

thanks for being so forthcoming... its the tiny liberal elite who make the right noises but my guess is most muslims did feel elated when it happened. 10 years of terror attack on pakistan has not faded the feeling, apparently.

Well to tell the truth, most Pakistanis are confused as to who is to blame for this terrorism and a good number believes that the Pakistani taliban are being helped by India. Some believe that is not the case.
Now about the feeling of elation when the two towers were brought down will never go away. It was a symbolic gesture of bringing a mighty empire pain and suffering that it had inflicted to countless countries be it Vietnam, Korea, Panama, Granada, Middle East.
frankly, to tell you the truth that I have met many non-muslim non-westerners and they have also indicated that it was punishment from God to America's intransigence that it had done against many countries.
And one more thing, I have even met some indians who admit that what happened was what USA deserved. But sheesh!!!!! dont let uncle Sam know that.

 

[batmannow]

Well to tell the truth, most Pakistanis are confused as to who is to blame for this terrorism and a good number believes that the Pakistani taliban are being helped by India. Some believe that is not the case.
Now about the feeling of elation when the two towers were brought down will never go away. It was a symbolic gesture of bringing a mighty empire pain and suffering that it had inflicted to countless countries be it Vietnam, Korea, Panama, Granada, Middle East.
frankly, to tell you the truth that I have met many non-muslim non-westerners and they have also indicated that it was punishment from God to America's intransigence that it had done against many countries.
And one more thing, I have even met some indians who admit that what happened was what USA deserved. But sheesh!!!!! dont let uncle Sam know that.

its like a gun, couldbe used against anyone?
osama bin laddin was terrorist or not, is simple as that if some just pickup, a ak47 & ask this question, is that a gun or ak47?
problem with hamid gul shb ,is he was retired because he was trying to become robin hood, thts what you allways find in his tone?
but was ossama the terrorist? yes he was!

 

[Pabbi]

Hey urinic sharpen your brain. It seems to me that you have lots of urine to drink. Alcohol damage liver and urine damae brain of hindus.

 

[nair]

Yes appointed by Ex Raw agent General Zia

True.... He still works for RAW.... But this time with his mouth

 

[ranjeet]

True.... He still works for RAW.... But this time with his mouth

That sounded dirty

 

[Slayer786]

its like a gun, couldbe used against anyone?
osama bin laddin was terrorist or not, is simple as that if some just pickup, a ak47 & ask this question, is that a gun or ak47?
problem with hamid gul shb ,is he was retired because he was trying to become robin hood, thts what you allways find in his tone?
but was ossama the terrorist? yes he was!

I definitely believe he was a terrorist. Because of his actions the muslim world has suffered a lot. But thats my opinion. Sadly, many people still believe him to be a hero, just like Mr. Hamid Gul.
And many more like him are in Pakistan and muslim world. I am amazed whenever in a social gathering I encounter people like them, and see that they are usually educated people like teachers, bankers and doctors.
And here lies our problem.