Origins of SL war

[manlion]

You keep overhyping Mahawamsa. Even the majority of Sinhalese don't take it seriously. And no, federal system is never needed in a country like Sri Lanka especially considering the fact that Sri Lanka is a very small country. Federal system will only bring segregation and corruption and eventually separatism as seen in India. This is what Lux trying to point out and is a form of nepotism by you. I say once again, what Sri Lanka needs is a centralised system based on meritocracy. About time that you also get over the tribal behaviour and think about the future.

Ask Lux to explain why tiny little red-dot Singapore separated from the Malayan Federation, then I will rest my case , thank you

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Ask Lux to explain why tiny little red-dot Singapore separated from the Malayan Federation, then I will rest my case , thank you

The Malay invited us out because they do not have the same vision of Malaysian Malaysia. They want a Malay Malaysia.

 

[Azizam]

Ask Lux to explain why tiny little red-dot Singapore separated from the Malayan Federation, then I will rest my case , thank you

If you're looking for separation it will never happen. And again Malaysia is a relatively large country and ask him if he likes to see one part of Singapore being divided according to race or religion of people who inhabit in it.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

If you're looking for separation it will never happen. And again Malaysia is a relatively large country and ask him if he likes to see one part of Singapore being divided according to race or religion of people who inhabit in it.

Chinese despite being racist are far more meritocratic than Malay and Indians.

You can be assured that you can find many racist shit of Chinese, but I can tell you it is not going to be particular interesting. But if you research in Indian caste-sim and Malay Islamofascism, you sure get lots of ecstasy in your discovery.

 

[zip]

I do not mean so.

There is 2 things.

First, caste system is most sucks in the world.

Second, it is not easy to reform Hindus through education.

There is no doubt that caste system sucks but your sweeping generalisation sucks too..You sound like white african racist with your prejudice ..Caste system is basically same mindset as yours generalising isolating a whole community with extreme prejudice just to entertain the feeling of superiority..

 

[Azizam]

Chinese despite being racist are far more meritocratic than Malay and Indians.

You can be assured that you can find many racist shit of Chinese, but I can tell you it is not going to be particular interesting. But if you research in Indian caste-sim and Malay Islamofascism, you sure get lots of ecstasy in your discovery.

And Chinese are efficient and flexible. They adapt to changes quite successfully (just like how deng xiaoping reformed the Chinese economy otherwise China could have walked down the path of USSR) and that's why China and Singapore are very successful in modern times.

And mate cast system is not very prevalent as you say, it's limited to rural places in India.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

And Chinese are efficient and flexible. They adapt to changes quite successfully (just like how deng xiaoping reformed the Chinese economy otherwise China could have walked down the path of USSR) and that's why China and Singapore are very successful in modern times.

And mate cast system is not very prevalent as you say, it's limited to rural places in India.

What I mean is rampant tribal behavior of Indian which is an undertone of caste system. If Ceylon Tamil take over all your instituion, there is will be a "neo-Brahmin Tamil caste" created. Then Sinhalese will become neo-Dalits.

Racism and ethnic nepotism as well as mutual suspicious is what trigger the war.

But I do not sanction Sinhalese behavior.

You guys kick Tamil out by brute force.

Sinhala Only Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The act had its intended effect. In 1955 the civil service had been largely Tamil; by 1970 it was almost entirely Sinhalese, with thousands of Tamil civil servants forced to resign due to lack of fluency in Sinhala. For much of the 1960s government forms and services were virtually unavailable to Tamils, and this situation only partly improved with later relaxations of the law

 

[HeinzG]

Tamil also rant you guys targeted them by ethnic quotas

'The qualifying mark for admission to the medical faculties was 250 (out of 400) for Tamil students, whereas it was only 229 for the Sinhalese. Worse still, this same pattern of a lower qualifying mark applied even when Sinhalese and Tamil students sat for the examination in English. In short, students sitting for examinations in the same language, but belonging to two ethnic groups, had different qualifying marks.'

Policy of standardisation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jaffna has one of the best schools in Sri Lanka after Colombo and Kandy. So it is natural that they had to face generally higher marks than other areas except Colombo and Kandy.

At first I ask whether there is institutional discrimination against Sinhalese in favor of Tamil, Sara denied. Then I asked about Tamil over-representation in Devil Island elite profession, Sara downplay it.

What is this devil island thing?

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Jaffna has one of the best schools in Sri Lanka after Colombo and Kandy. So it is natural that they had to face generally higher marks than other areas except Colombo and Kandy.

This is the mindset of caste-ist and Islamofascist. I do not know if you like to get penalize in college admission just because you are from some tribe.

You guys can just use results as the only criterion for college admission. Then you will not have trouble.

If Sinhalese is confident they are able to win Tamil, why not set up a few schools in Sinhalese land and see if those schools become good schools.

@Azizam, @Gibbs, @HeinzG, @samv@manlion

 

[HeinzG]

That is one of my doubts I need to clear.

I am quite skeptical about 2 sides of argument. One claim Tamil was there due to meritocracy and the other side says Tamil was there due to British patronage.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Yes. It wasn't actually Brits patronage but Dutch (and Portuguese). AFAIK Dutch built an effective schooling system in Jaffna area and the Brits benefited from it. The meritocracy arises from the patronage of the Western nations.

The same patronage and meritocracy was denied to majority of Sinhalese which formed 80% of the population then.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Yes. It wasn't actually Brits patronage but Dutch (and Portuguese). AFAIK Dutch built an effective schooling system in Jaffna area and the Brits benefited from it. The meritocracy arises from the patronage of the Western nations.

The same patronage and meritocracy was denied to majority of Sinhalese which formed 80% of the population then.

My next question is why no missionaries want to set up schools in Sinhalese land?

This is no the typical missionary behavior. They would even go to head hunting tribe and set up schools.

 

[HeinzG]

This is the mindset of caste-ist and Islamofascist. I do not know if you like to get penalize in college admission just because you are from some tribe.

You guys can just use results as the only criterion for college admission. Then you will not have trouble.

If Sinhalese is confident they are able to win Tamil, why not set up a few schools in Sinhalese land and see if those schools become good schools.

@Azizam, @Gibbs, @HeinzG, @samv@manlion

The marking system has nothing to do with ethnicity. It is based on the quality of the education in a certain area.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The marking system has nothing to do with ethnicity. It is based on the quality of the education in a certain area.

Why quality education in certain area? We know all lousy school become good once this area got flooded by East Asian. When the area got flooded by Islam, good school become bad.

Are you implying Tamil are smarter?

 

[HeinzG]

My next question is why no missionaries want to set up schools in Sinhalese land?

This is no the typical missionary behavior. They would even go to head hunting tribe and set up schools.

Missionaries had indeed set up schools in Sinhalese areas in the coastal belt. But not in the interior of the island. That was the part of the issue. The other being that coastal belt consisted of Buddhist and Catholic Sinhalese so Sinhalese Buddhist people had lack of opportunities for education comparing to other ethnicities who live in coastal areas.

Why quality education in certain area? We know all lousy school become good once this area got flooded by East Asian. When the area got flooded by Islam, good school become bad.

Are you implying Tamil are smarter?

Quality means good schools with institutional patronage. Such schools produced quality students comparing to other schools. That's the issue.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Missionaries had indeed set up schools in Sinhalese areas in the coastal belt. But not in the interior of the island. That was the part of the issue. The other being that coastal belt consisted of Buddhist and Catholic Sinhalese so Sinhalese Buddhist people had lack of opportunities for education comparing to other ethnicities who live in coastal areas.



Quality means good schools with institutional patronage. Such schools produced quality students comparing to other schools. That's the issue.

With those missionary schools in Sinhalese land, why cant you guys ace Tamil?

I see East Asian able to thrive in bad schools. I do not mean that patronage in not important.

But even when Tamil is scoring good grade, why penalize them?

You guys can always hire good teachers and produce elite sinhalese schools.