Opposition walkout ,Nawaz fail to answer 7 questions

[Viper0011.]

But it indicates towards a bigger problem, that seems to be failure of the systems/institution in the state, of the judiciary for not being able to arrest and disqualify a person who is constantly lying on the floor.

Who is corrupt? Referring to IK? Tareen, Aleem? Zardari's 99% of the party of the NS's past? They are ALL corrupt and there is no hiding the fact. Judiciary who? The judges who used to get paid for all big cases and to hide the truth? Or the military which ruled Pakistan for 70 years and didn't care to even remember how much population was growing and they'll need jobs, economy, electricity? Or the media who gets paid from IK and Tareen and hires people as "journalists" who don't even meet basic qualifications to get a full time job, let alone be a "journalist". So this paragraph right here tells you how corrupt your society is.......and you know WHY? Its YOU, the PEOPLE who are corrupt. Resulting in corruption at all levels and in all places!!!!!! If your nation had paid taxes honestly like you guys pay when you move to Singapore, the UK, the US, etc, your country would be competing with South Korea.

So who "exactly" is corrupt here? My analysis tell me that the ENTIRE nation needs to be put behind bar for corruption. But many fools will come on here and will play corruption ONLY when their opponent should go to jail. For their own offshore work, they'll openly say "I opened up an offshore company to save taxes".....meaning I lied to first, the government of Pakistan and then to the Government of the UK (essentially saying I admit, go "eff" yourself) and that's ok. But for others, you guys have issues. Like I said, this is WHY your country has been in a shiit hole its been. Because people like YOU are what establishes corruption and makes it ok for some and then some and then some. Resulting in corruption everywhere by your "some" to everyone's some!!!

Why not?? It is a Muslim country so he has a right to use the words of our prophet.

Is that the ONLY thing you've larned from Islam? I thought Islam said to write and speak the truth, to use sense God gave you as humans are the best beings because we have a brain God gave us, that "should" work (not in your and IK's case obviously). And I thought Islam said to do justice and to do hard-work and to take care of your people (not how IK and Tareen "take care of their people" ). These are some of the SME principles in all Abrahamic religions. The TEN commandments. So how many of these basic things you are following that you have to use your religion to justify someone's wrong doing when you have no proofs and none of you go to a court???? OR even ALLOW a court to work???? And why is Islam being used to hide a corrupt individual from all Evils, and put one individual under all Evils. When the evils come from the public (like I explained above). So where is the Islam justifying the good? Here, you are ONLY justifying corruption of some who you favor, by using religion!!!!

 

[risingsinga]

Is that the ONLY thing you've larned from Islam? I thought Islam said to write and speak the truth, to use sense God gave you as humans are the best beings because we have a brain God gave us, that "should" work (not in your and IK's case obviously). And I thought Islam said to do justice and to do hard-work and to take care of your people (not how IK and Tareen "take care of their people" ). These are some of the SME principles in all Abrahamic religions. The TEN commandments. So how many of these basic things you are following that you have to use your religion to justify someone's wrong doing when you have no proofs and none of you go to a court???? OR even ALLOW a court to work???? And why is Islam being used to hide a corrupt individual from all Evils, and put one individual under all Evils. When the evils come from the public (like I explained above). So where is the Islam justifying the good? Here, you are ONLY justifying corruption of some who you favor, by using religion!!!!

Why you are such an idiot and a troll. There is nothing comments except stupidity and lies.

 

[Viper0011.]

In the British Parliament such refusal to answer questions would be followed by a vote of no confidence in the PM, which would then bring down the government. But as I understand it this isn't straightforward in Pakistan, both because the Speaker is unlikely to recognize the motion and because of strict party control of its voting members - am I right?

Well, you have to understand, under the British parliament, questions are asked when someone is accused of something with proofs. Here, the PM isn't even included in whatever leaks they are talking about. He's come to the Parlaiment to clarify himself and his position. Legally speaking, he didn't have to do any of that as his name isn't in anything. His name was printed in association with his children.

Why would a court or a parliament (which has sane, educated members), indict you, because your children's names were mentioned somewhere questionable and you were mentioned as their father (remember these children have been adults for the past 20 years and live in the UK permanently). The British parliament you mentioned, didn't impeach British PM over the leaks. The US hasn't put anyone in jail for it. The POINT IS, the politicians in these modern countries are educated enough to know what to make an issue of, and what is utter crap. So if you think the British Parliament would've given a vote of no confidence, well, they didn't even impeac their PM who'se name was directly given in the Panama leaks. A few protests took place and that was it. Now here, some uneducated and extremists opportunists want to steal the government, because say your children's name was written somewhere and you were mentioned as their father. Should you be removed from the PM role for your children's work? And mind you, these fools are creating such a bad political environment to avoid their own investigation, as they are super corrupt themselves.

 

[Zaneesh852]

Dude you simply don't sit on top and make a commission under you to investigate you.. Its simple as that..
And why the investigation why you can clearify yourself through documentation that this is how this money was earned this year and transfered to london to start that business.. End of story...
But clearly when you can't explain, you talk about commisions and use government tv for adressing nation in a hype for your personal purpose....
Dignity isn't easy come easy go and we all should agree that this man has no dignity.

The commission or investigative setup will be made by the Parliament not the Government. The runaway brides ran away from electoral reforms committee as well. This is the second runaway

@WebMaster @Oscar @Irfan Baloch : guys, the other day, there was a member who used Kor'anic verses in a thread outlining corruption by Pakistani leaders. And this dude was justifying and referring to Kor'anic verses to show how IK was "humble and clean". Today, here's a reference to the "Holy Prophet". I think any religious context being used for political, religious extremes or to be used as an excuse on this forum should be banned and should be a serious offense.

I can start writing verses from Torah or Bible and then what? It would look like a "Clash or Civilizations" and showing my serious stance against corruption, no matter who it is. These topics do not require religion to be inserted to justify one over the other. When legally and with proofs, all Pakistani politicians have done corruption. No matter who you point to.

So, with that, I let you guys tackle this growing religious usage for political purposes. Mind you, that your Army and country have lost 50K people dealing with a similar mindset where crazy insane maniacs use religious context to justify killing of innocent Men, Women and Children. The point is, religion is respectful and important. But it doesn't need to be "used" in wrong context to create or establish political or other opinions or mindsets. Thank you

Actually religion is the last refuge for people who can't handle argument with argument.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Why you are such an idiot and a troll. There is nothing comments except stupidity and lies.

 

[Jahaz]

He did answer all of the questions of the oppositions, !

PM should Resign along with those whose name is present on Panama papers...learn something from Brazil, no one should be allowed to resume his/her office until investigation is going on...End of case

Where is the name of nawaz sharif written in panama papers?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I can start writing verses from Torah or Bible and then what? It would look like a "Clash or Civilizations" and showing my serious stance against corruption, no matter who it is. These topics do not require religion to be inserted to justify one over the other. When legally and with proofs, all Pakistani politicians have done corruption. No matter who you point to.

So, with that, I let you guys tackle this growing religious usage for political purposes. Mind you, that your Army and country have lost 50K people dealing with a similar mindset where crazy insane maniacs use religious context to justify killing of innocent Men, Women and Children. The point is, religion is respectful and important. But it doesn't need to be "used" in wrong context to create or establish political or other opinions or mindsets. Thank you

CIA , RAW and Mossad wont do us much harm than the misuse of religion in our lives. I mean look at our books and it will make you cry how we are doing the job of TTP in explaining science .

He did answer all of the questions of the oppositions, !


Where is the name of nawaz sharif written in panama papers?

wrong argument. his children were his dependants and beneficiaries like his wife.
politicians holding public office have this obligation in a civilised society. Pakistan has different morality set then its different debate.

Hazrat Umar r.a can be used as an example where instead of bullying and harrasing the questioner.. he took time to explain how he managed to have a dress which would have requred more cloth than 1 per person assigned by Bait al Mall .... you might argue because he was being questioned... NOT his son.. but just for the sake of same principle he could answer the same for his son had he needed the dress and being a son of a tall father .. might have needed more cloth and raised the eyebrows and whispers that Caliph's son is taking undue favours because of his father's position.

in Nawaz sherif's case ...wrong doing here is not proven.. maybe everything is fair and innocent.. being the siblings of such a great father maybe they have the intellect and resources to generate funds in the range tens of millions of dollars at the tender age of teens when 99.9% of Pakistani children are still dependent on their parents who are not born with the golden spoon to "serve Pakistan". if you know what I am saying.

In the British Parliament such refusal to answer questions would be followed by a vote of no confidence in the PM, which would then bring down the government. But as I understand it this isn't straightforward in Pakistan, both because the Speaker is unlikely to recognize the motion and because of strict party control of its voting members - am I right?

this is correct
our parliament is happy enough that PM has graced it with his presence.
our democracy has its own flavour.. its pretty much a one man show. the only difference from military dictatorship is that the person doesn't wear a uniform. no one dares to question the leader.. those who do are kicked out and their political future is pretty much written off.

the power remains within the family.. the party leadership is inherited by the right of succession.

the speaker in Pakistan switches off the MIC's of the unruly members .. unlike New Zealand the speaker wont dare to send off the PM for misconduct but might dismiss the entire Parliament so that PM can speak his mind to his hearts content.

for record I must clarify that all parties in the opposition suffer from same issues. some more than others. but this is our democracy which some say has to continue in its current form and it might correct itself through the course of natural selection (although the leaders say there is nothing wrong in them so any talk of improvement or correction is ludicrous).

PM has handled the situation successfully. Opposition is looking towards Pindi but there is no help coming and Uncle Sam will ensure that the Khakis will restrict to their role

 

[raihans]

don't worry, Pakistani awam truck ke batti pechay lagi hoi hay politicians k hathoon

 

[Zaneesh852]

CIA , RAW and Mossad wont do us much harm than the misuse of religion in our lives. I mean look at our books and it will make you cry how we are doing the job of TTP in explaining science .

Then probably isn't it about time that a band denounce themselves from the defenders of ideology to defenders of geography, a role which they have been miserably failing in from time to time because being are too much preoccupied performing the earlier role. TTP,Lahskar e Taiba, Jesh,LeJ aren't these the Children of ideology. Some gone bad and some still kept for future use.

this is correct
our parliament is happy enough that PM has graced it with his presence.
our democracy has its own flavour.. its pretty much a one man show. the only difference from military dictatorship is that the person doesn't wear a uniform. no one dares to question the leader.. those who do are kicked out and their political future is pretty much written off.

There's one difference, still the man can be abused, taunted and hurled at and forced for accountability. Not given a salute and retirement parting gift. And thugs dancing as if the accountability of highest degree is performed.

Jo Maidan ma rehta hay woh Ghazi Kehlata hay
Aur Jo Maidan se Bhagta hay Woh General Niazi Kehlata hay

Where is the name of nawaz sharif written in panama papers?

If you look at the 326th page of panapapers on the third line there is a word (Na)tion of (Wa)sted (Z)ombies was (sha)dding (rif)ted bodis. That is NAWAZ SHARIF!
His name is surely on papers.

 

[I M Sikander]

And you think Nawaz sharif todays speech has given him some kind of divine Izzat ?

NS already has enough respect in the eyes of people of Pakistan than the whole opposition parties.
You better not worry about NS.

Rana why Nawaz sharif lied about his properties and continusouly refusing to clarify about his wealth ? A simple question dont bring XYZ in to your answer

Answers given by NS are enough, and the rest will be decided by judicial commission.

Plmn and NS are not answerable to opposition parties, let IK and opposition continue with their circus.

 

[Genghis khan1]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1037598206334161

 

[HAIDER]

It seems Imran Khan has been knocked down by PPP and PMLn joint secret collaboration . Some Imran companion are responsible for giving bad name to PTI. It seems or feel both Shah Mehmud Qurashi and Tareen are both burden for PTI.

 

[Solomon2]

...
our democracy has its own flavour.. its pretty much a one man show. the only difference from military dictatorship is that the person doesn't wear a uniform. no one dares to question the leader.. those who do are kicked out and their political future is pretty much written off.the power remains within the family.. the party leadership is inherited by the right of succession...all parties in the opposition suffer from same issues -

What you're describing isn't representative democracy (since voting one's conscience or kicking out party leaders isn't allowed) but a competitive vote-weighted oligarchy. Of course it's more complicated than that since the military sits on top, as elected leaders lack the power to remove incompetent commanders or veto the promotion of mid- to upper-level commanders and still fear Unit 101 could climb the fences to oust them at any time.

 

[Strigon]

It seems Imran Khan has been knocked down by PPP and PMLn joint secret collaboration . Some Imran companion are responsible for giving bad name to PTI. It seems or feel both Shah Mehmud Qurashi and Tareen are both burden for PTI.

Agreed I honestly dont understand how IK didnt see this coming. I knew PPP's duplicity even before this joint opposition was formed. IK really has some of the worst advisers or good ones working for the bad people. I with little knowledge of Pakistan's gutter quality politics can give better suggestions than the lunatics IK has gathered around him.

 

[Tameem]

It seems Imran Khan has been knocked down by PPP and PMLn joint secret collaboration . Some Imran companion are responsible for giving bad name to PTI. It seems or feel both Shah Mehmud Qurashi and Tareen are both burden for PTI.

Absolutely Rubbish........

Its Actually PTI itself who wants to ran away from the Parliment in the first place....Shireen Mizari restricted specfically Khursheed shah to speech no more than only 2 minutes.