Opinionated - Is South Asia really more corrupt than USA?

[BananaRepublicUK]

Don't assume the slaves of the Europeans shifted off to America were in anyway way similar to slaves of the Arabs.

It's comparing a Mexican prison to a Norwegian one. Don't get me wrong neither are good, but one is worse.

Slavery is a feature of Christianity.

It a bug in Islam and was never systemic.

 

[VCheng]

No! They were not!

If Muslims traded in slaves - we too would have monuments too slave holders!

Yes. They did. Facts remain facts, whether you acknowledge them or not. I will stop here with you.

Don't assume the slaves of the Europeans shifted off to America were in anyway way similar to slaves of the Arabs.

It's comparing a Mexican prison to a Norwegian one. Don't get me wrong neither are good, but one is worse.

I am not making any assumptions.

Let me just say that various forms of involuntary servitude have been practiced by all cultures and regions throughout human history, and it is intellectually dishonest to pick and choose among them for anything being better or worse than any other.

I think I will stop here.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

Yes. They did. Facts remain facts, whether you acknowledge them or not. I will stop here with you.



I am not making any assumptions.

Let me just say that various forms of involuntary servitude have been practiced by all culture and regions throughout human history, and it is intellectually dishonest to pick and choose among them for anything being better or worse than any other.

I think I will stop here.

You are being extremely dishonest by comparing the systemic slavery under Christianity with anything in Islam.

Christians still celebrate their slave holders and build monuments. Because it is integral to the religion.

Your dishonesty is not fooling anyone!!

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

You are being extremely dishonest by comparing the systemic slavery under Christianity with anything in Islam.

Christians still celebrate their slave holders and build monuments. Because it is integral to the religion.

Your dishonesty is not fooling anyone!!

US Politicians - the most corrupt people on earth!

As I said, get into bed with them and you will be pregnant with Jihadists!

@UKBengali
@EasyNow
@jamahir

 

[CLUMSY]

Okay but can they pass laws targetting users online for "painting" a bad picture of the economy? Corruption exists everywhere, but it is offset by how educated your common man is

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

Okay but can they pass laws targetting users online for "painting" a bad picture of the economy? Corruption exists everywhere, but it is offset by how educated your common man is

Speech should not be banned unless it incites violence. And it should only be prosecuted through the civil courts.

Best way to counter hate mongers and conspiracy theorists is to mock them.

This leads them to lose their mind

Some even resort to creating threads about you

Why not? There must be a solution to such an evil situation!

Not every problem has a solution.

Only a deluded idiot would think that!!

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

In the US tens of billions of dollars are spent in each election cycle.

The purpose of US elections is to funnel money into US politicians and their families via “speaking engagements” and “book deals”.

Here is a classic example

How is accepting speaking money worse than stealing public money?

Which would you rather see:

A) 1000 idiots lining up to get some politician to sign a book for $100 for a total of $100,000.
B) 1000 idiots paying $100 to hear some politician yap. For a total of $100,000.
C) That same politician siphoning $100,000 in public money allocated for a new school into their offshore bank account.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Under Muslims slaves became rulers.

LOL! What a weak excuse.
This is like the Squid Game. A few come out on top after the rest get manhandled...so that makes everything peachy?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Btw, WTF with black churches and white churches?

Why are Christian churches divided by skin colour

They aren't. But if you are in an area where most of the people are either black or white then most of the congregation is going to be either black or white.

Only way to escape slavery is to become Muslims.

..and join the local black Muslim Mosque? Well that's a real positive upgrade.

Only big banks will be able to rent out homes eventually.

That may actually be a step forward in the US as it is a lot easier to pass laws targeting unfair practices by companies verses slumlords.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

How is accepting speaking money worse than stealing public money?

Which would you rather see:

A) 1000 idiots lining up to get some politician to sign a book for $100 for a total of $100,000.
B) That same politician siphoning $100,000 in public money allocated for a new school into their offshore bank account.

The one which pretends to be “clean” is definitely worse.

Because they are hypocrites.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Probably Not. American politics is real dirty. This is what my friends back in Saudi Arabia told me.

 

[LeGenD]

In the US tens of billions of dollars are spent in each election cycle.

The purpose of US elections is to funnel money into US politicians and their families via “speaking engagements” and “book deals”.

Here is a classic example

Electoral campaigns are costly to organize and politics is scandalous in many countries around the world.

But US has system(s) and organizations that seem to work and not undermine each other. US does not have Dynasty Politics and Electoral College does not work for the benefit of any political family.

Could Donald Trump do something about loosing vote count in those conservative states that costed him Presidential Elections in 2020? Nope.

DataSpace: Lost, not stolen: The conservative case that Trump lost and Biden won the 2020 presidential election

dataspace.princeton.edu

South Asian corruption scandals and problems are on another level entirely. Pakistan's in particular.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The one which pretends to be “clean” is definitely worse.

Because they are hypocrites.

How is raising $100,000 by having 1000 idiots pay you $100 (the campaign fund acceptance max per person) to sign a book or hear you yap immediately equated as Government corruption? Sure it can certainly be labeled group inspired attempted influence peddling..but so is some big name public celebrity shaming you for not having a certain viewpoint.

The person is not embezzling public funds..which is blatant corruption.

BTW that money goes into the campaign fund not the pocket of the speaker...and yes they have to have a good paper trail. Money not used has to be dispersed to the National party campaign fund or something like a charity.

 

[LeGenD]

And what has historical practice of slavery to do with this topic?

Keep your conversations on topic or this thread will be closed.

 

[BananaRepublicUK]

BTW that money goes into the campaign fund not the pocket of the speaker...

You really are deluded!

Classic way books are monetised for corruption is when a billionaire bulk buys books of his most pliant politicians.

Speaking fees do not end up in the campaign coffers!!

And a hefty amount of campaign funds are funnelled into family members through “consultancy fees”!

Lookup Marco Rubio