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Mughals had as much in common with Iran as they did with mongols.

Right, and your mullahs are the icon of Persian empire. Stop dreaming buddy.

Your country is a joke. The whole world laughs at the mighty "persian cat" empire. Meow.
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Just keep fantasizing about 2000 years ago. You are like the Greeks and Mongolians. Had-beens with nothing to treasure but history.

I don't know what was the point of that image. But each of those missiles are a unique launch... you can tell by the smoke trail. Just compare the two missiles you had selected... as usual, another own goal... lol

I didn't read your nonsense all the way through.....
 
I don't know what was the point of that image. But each of those missiles are a unique launch... you can tell by the smoke trail. Just compare the two missiles you had selected... as usual, another own goal... lol

I didn't read your nonsense all the way through.....
Um, no dost. The third missile is a mixture of the other two. Now watch again :)
 
Fall of Damascus is not the fall of Syria, for it simply means a change of the government. You did not have to lash back like this for the last time I checked, Pakistan was the member of the UN and duly recognized by the 193 members of the UN.
He is not a Palestinian?
 
They are just like any other terrorist organization in the region, no objective no demands, just over night getting strengthened, spreading anarchy, start killings etc.
I come to know that they are rebels against their only their govt but if it is a terrerist group killing people and spreading anarchy there are many groups in pakistan like TTP, BLA, SSP likewise BKH and ISIS are international terrerist group why didn't pakistan is finishing its own rubbish instead of poking nose in others affeirs n why not gulf countries are making a colation againts other groups too why only in yemen is there lies any personal intrest
 
Cry me a river. The Houthis are advancing, and no is stoping them. Let's see if the Saudis have the balls to put boots on the ground. Or are they too cowardice and order their client-states like Pakistan and Egypt to intervene? Who knows, but anyone who is thinking of invading Yemen will get their asses kicked.
mark my word saudis on yamen ground in next 15 days for sure and pakistan are not participating in this war pakistan 3 naval ships are there to blockade if pakistan ut augusta sub on yamen sea there is no chance for iran to provide weapon to houthis and one more thing in yamen alot support for saudis
 
You see, in the end Tehran is safe, while Gaza is a shithole, Jerusalem is in the hands of the Israelis, Beirut is living under the menace of Iranian-friend Hezbollah, Damascus under the rule of Iranian-backed Assad, Baghdad under the control of our Iraqi friends and Sana'a by the Houthis.

Mazzeltov!

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Seriously , I don't understand what gulf and middle east Arabs are proud about, They are losing on every front against Iran, now just Bahrain is remain and finally Iranian axis against America and their puppets will complete. then preparing for final push from strategic location will become more easy to defeat these Arab monarchs along with their so called brother nations in middle east.
 
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Zaidiyyah

Zaidiyya or Zaidism (Arabic: الزيدية az-zaydiyya, adjective form Zaidi or Zaydi) is an early sect which emerged out of Shi'a Islam named after Zayd ibn ʻAlī, the grandson of Husayn ibn ʻAlī. Followers of the Zaydi Islamic jurisprudence are called Zaydi Shi'a and make up about 35-40% of Muslims in Yemen. The Zaydi Shi'a have a unique approach within Shi'a Islamic thought. Its adherents are also known as Fivers.

Zaidi Muslims are currently the dominant political and armed force in Yemen, following a successful insurgency that toppled the Sunni-led government in 2014 and 2015.

Summary
Zaydis, the oldest branch of the Shia and the largest group amongst the Shia before the Safavid Dynasty in the sixteenth century and currently the second largest group, are the closest to the Sunnis and do not believe in the infallibility of Imāms after Husayn. Zaydis believe that on the last hour of Zayd ibn Ali, he was betrayed by the people in Kufa who said to him: "May God have mercy on you! What do you have to say on the matter of Abu Bakr and Umar ibn al-Khattab?" Zayd ibn Ali said, "I have not heard anyone in my family renouncing them both nor saying anything but good about them...when they were entrusted with government they behaved justly with the people and acted according to the Qur'an and the Sunnah."

Law
In matters of Islamic jurisprudence, the Zaydis follow Zayd ibn ’Ali's teachings which are documented in his book Majmu’ al-Fiqh (Arabic: مجموع الفِقه‎). Zaydi fiqh is similar to the Hanafi school of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence.Abu Hanifa, a Sunni madhab founder, was favorable and even donated towards the Zaydi cause.

Theology
In matters of theology, the Zaydis are close to the Mu'tazili school, though they are not Mu'tazilite. There are a few issues between both schools, most notably the Zaydi doctrine of the Imamate, which is rejected by the Mu'tazilites. Of the Shi'a, Zaydis are most similar to Sunnis since Zaydism shares similar doctrines and jurisprudential opinions with Sunni scholars.

Beliefs
Like all Muslims, the Zaydi Shi'a affirm the fundamental tenet of Islam known as the Shahada or testament of faith – "There is no deity (worthy of worship) but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger." Traditionally, the Zaydi believe that Muslims who commit major sins without remorse should not be considered Muslims nor be considered kafirs but rather be categorized in neither group.

In the context of the Shi'a Muslim belief in spiritual leadership or Imamate, Zaydis believe that the leader of the Ummah or Muslim community must be Fatimids: descendants of Muhammad through his only surviving daughter Fatimah, whose sons were Hasan ibn ʻAlī and Husayn ibn ʻAlī. These Shi'a called themselves Zaydi so they could differentiate themselves from other Shi'is who refused to take up arms with Zayd ibn Ali and the later Zaydi Imams.

Zaydis believe Zayd ibn Ali was the rightful successor to the Imamate because he led a rebellion against the Umayyad Caliphate, who he believed were tyrannical and corrupt. Muhammad al-Baqir did not engage in political action and the followers of Zayd believed that a true Imām must fight against corrupt rulers. The renowned Muslim jurist Abu Hanifa who is credited for the Hanafi school of Sunni Islam, delivered a fatwā or legal statement in favour of Zayd in his rebellion against the Umayyad ruler. He also urged people in secret to join the uprising and delivered funds to Zayd.

In contrast to other Shi'a Muslims, the Zaydis do not believe in the infallibility of Imāms after Husayn. Zaydis also do not believe that the Imāmate must pass from father to son but believe it can be held by any descendant from either Hasan ibn ʻAlī or Husayn ibn ʻAlī. Orthodox Shi'is do not necessarily believe in Imamate passing from father to son either, as can be seen from the transition of Imamate from the second Imam, Hasan ibn Alī, after his death, to his brother, Husayn ibn Alī.

“ The death of Imam Ali Zayn ul Abidin triggered the struggle for leadership between his two sons, Muhammad al Baqir and Zayd... Zayd rejected the principle of hereditary succession to the Imamate, and asserted his own right to it on the ground that he was better qualified for it, because he fulfilled all the necessary conditions for this purpose including the one that the Imam must rise in revolt against the unjust, oppressive rulers. ”
—Abdul Ali in Islamic dynasties of the Arab East: state and civilization during the later medieval times

Zaydis, like Sunni Muslims, further reject the notion of Occultation (ghayba) of the Imām. Like the Nizaris, they believe in a living visible Imām.

“ Of all the Shi'a schools of thought the Zaydis are the most moderate and tolerant as well as the nearest to Sunni Islam. They differ fundamentally from other Shi'a sects, especially the Twelvers and the Seveners, on the issue of Imamah. ”
—Abdul Ali, Islamic dynasties of the Arab East: state and civilization during the later medieval times

The Twelver Imam Ali al-Ridha narrated how his grandfather Ja'far al-Sadiq also supported Zayd ibn Ali's struggle:

“ he was one of the scholars from the Household of Muhammad and got angry for the sake of the Honorable the Exalted God. He fought with the enemies of God until he got killed in His path. My father Musa ibn Ja’far narrated that he had heard his father Ja’far ibn Muhammad say, "May God bless my uncle Zayd... He consulted with me about his uprising and I told him, "O my uncle! Do this if you are pleased with being killed and your corpse being hung up from the gallows in the al-Konasa neighborhood." After Zayd left, As-Sadiq said, "Woe be to those who hear his call but do not help him!". ”
Uyūn Akhbār al-Riḍā, p. 466

Jafar al-Sadiq's love for Zayd ibn Ali was so immense, he broke down and cried upon reading the letter informing him of his death and proclaimed:

“ From God we are and to Him is our return. I ask God for my reward in this calamity. He was a really good uncle. My uncle was a man for our world and for our Hereafter. I swear by God that my uncle is a martyr just like the martyrs who fought along with God’s Prophet or Ali or Al-Hassan or Al-Hussein ”
Uyūn akhbār al-Riḍā, p. 472

History
Status of Caliphs and the Sahaba
There was a difference of opinion among the companions and supporters of Zayd ibn 'Ali, such as Abu al-Jarud Ziyad ibn Abi Ziyad, Sulayman ibn Jarir, Kathir al-Nawa al-Abtar and Hasan ibn Salih, concerning the status of the first three Caliphs who succeeded to the political and administrative authority of Muhammad. The earliest group, called Jarudiyya (named for Abu al-Jarud Ziyad ibn Abi Ziyad), was opposed to the approval of certain companions of Muhammad. They held that there was sufficient description given by the Prophet that all should have recognised 'Ali as the rightful Caliph. They therefore consider the Companions wrong in failing to recognise 'Ali as the legitimate Caliph and deny legitimacy to Abu Bakr, 'Umar and 'Uthman; however, they avoid denouncing them. They further condemn two other companions of Muhammad, Talhah and Zubayr ibn al-Awam, for their initial uprising against Caliph Ali.

The Jarudiyya were active during the late Umayyad Caliphate and early Abbasid Caliphate. Its views, although predominant among the later Zaydis, especially in Yemen under the Hadawi sub-sect, became extinct in Iraq and Iran due to forced conversion to Twelver Shi'ism by the Safavid Dynasty.

The second group, the Sulaymaniyya, named for Sulayman ibn Jarir, held that the Imamate should be a matter to be decided by consultation. They felt that the companions, including Abu Bakr and 'Umar, had been in error in failing to follow 'Ali but it did not amount to sin.

The third group is known as the Tabiriyya, Butriyya or Salihiyya for Kathir an-Nawa al-Abtar and Hasan ibn Salih. Their beliefs are virtually identical to those of the Sulaymaniyya, except they see Uthman also as in error but not in sin.

Zaidis accounts state the term Rafida was a term used by Zayd ibn Ali on those who rejected him in his last hours for his refusal to condemn the first two Caliphs of the Muslim world, Abu Bakr and Umar. Zayd bitterly scolds the "rejectors" (Rafidha) who deserted him, an appellation used by Sunnis and Zaydis to refer to Twelver Shi'ites to this day.

A group of their leaders assembled in his (Zayd's presence) and said: "May God have mercy on you! What do you have to say on the matter of Abu Bakr and Umar?" Zayd said, "I have not heard anyone in my family renouncing them both nor saying anything but good about them...when they were entrusted with government they behaved justly with the people and acted according to the Qur'an and the Sunnah"
Empires
Idrisid dynasty

Extent of Zaydi dynasty in North Africa.
The Idrisid dynasty was a mostly Berber Zaydi dynasty centered around modern-day Morocco. It was named after its first leader Idriss I.

Banu Ukhaidhir
The Banu Ukhaidhir was a dynasty that ruled in al-Yamamah (central Arabia) from 867 to at least the mid-eleventh century.

Hammudid dynasty
The Hammudid dynasty was a Zaydi dynasty in the 11th century in southern Spain.

Muttawakili

Zaydi regions in red.
Muttawakili Kingdom, also known as the Kingdom of Yemen or, retrospectively, as North Yemen, existed between 1918 and 1962 in the northern part of what is now Yemen. Its capital was Sana`a until 1948, then Ta'izz.

Community and former States
Since the earliest form of Zaydism was Jarudiyyah, many of the first Zaidi states were supporters of its position, such as those of the Iranian Alavids of Mazandaran Province and the Buyid dynasty of Gilan Province and the Arab dynasties of the Banu Ukhaidhir[citation needed] of al-Yamama (modern Saudi Arabia) and the Rassids of Yemen. The Idrisid dynasty in the western Maghreb were another Arab Zaydi dynasty, ruling 788-985 CE.

The Alavids established a Zaydi state in Deylaman and Tabaristan (northern Iran) in 864 CE; it lasted until the death of its leader at the hand of the Sunni Samanids in 928 CE. Roughly forty years later, the state was revived in Gilan (Northwest Iran) and survived until 1126 CE.

From the 12th-13th centuries, Zaydi communities acknowledged the Imams of Yemen or rival Imams within Iran.

The Buyid dynasty was initially Zaidi as were the Banu Ukhaidhir rulers of al-Yamama in the 9th and 10th centuries.

The leader of the Zaidi community took the title of Caliph. As such, the ruler of Yemen was known as the Caliph. Al-Hadi ila'l-Haqq Yahya, a descendant of Imam Hasan ibn Ali, founded this Rassid state at Sa'da, al-Yaman, in c. 893-7 CE. The Rassid Imamate continued until the middle of the 20th century, when a 1962 revolution deposed the Imam. After the fall of the Zaydi Imamate in 1962 many Zaydi Shia in northern Yemen had converted to Sunni Islam.

The Rassid state was founded under Jarudiyya thought,; however, increasing interactions with Hanafi and Shafi'i schools of Sunni Islam led to a shift to Sulaimaniyyah thought, especially among the Hadawi sub-sect.

Currently, the most prominent Zaidi movement is the Shabab Al Mu'mineen, commonly known as Houthis, who have been engaged in an uprising against the Yemeni Government in which the Army has lost 743 men and thousands of innocent civilians have been killed or displaced by government forces and Houthi, causing a grave humanitarian crisis in north Yemen.

Some Persian and Arab legends record that Zaidis fled to China from the Umayyads during the 8th century ce.

Houthi Yemen
Main article: Houthis
Since 2004 in Yemen, Zaidi fighters have been waging an uprising against factions belonging to the Sunni majority group in the country. The Houthis, as they are often called, have asserted that their actions are for the defense of their community from the government and discrimination, though the Yemeni government in turn accused them of wishing to bring it down and institute religious law.

On September 20, 2014, an agreement was signed in Sana'a under UN patronage essentially giving the Houthis control of the government after a decade of conflict. Tribal militias then moved swiftly to consolidate their position in the capital, with the group officially declaring direct control over the state on February 6, 2015. This outcome followed the removal of Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2012 in the wake of protracted Arab Spring protests. The shift to Houthi (and thus Zaidi) control is significant because it affects the broader power balance in the Middle East, tilting the country from Saudi to Iranian influence. Saudi Arabia has exercised the predominant external influence in Yemen since the withdrawal of Nasser's Egyptian expeditionary force marking the end of the bitter North Yemen Civil War.

There is a wide array of domestic opponents to Houthi rule in Yemen, ranging from the conservative Sunni Islah Party to southern separatists to the jihadist Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
 
How the hell is Iran gonna attack Israel?

And besides, they've always said their problem is not with Jews per se. They don't want to just kill Jews! Their problem is with the notion of Zionism. They hold it to be a racist, evil and amoral ideology. And I agree with them in that.
To be honest everyone is against Zionism. All other Muslim countries are against Zionism. But if you know what I mean that the state of Israel is Zion. And it needs to be taken back. Thats why I said that Arabs have tried to take it back in past and failed due to superior powers like US and europe was behind Israel. But Iran has just always been doing the talking and not physically attacked Israel.
 
I'm gonna tag @mohsen and gonna ask some questions.

Last month we caught acting chief of jundullah. He took bus from Taftan, crossed Iranian side of Border, reached quetta where ISI caught him and handed him over to Iran. Does that mean Wahaabi Pakistan control Iranian border guards and security apparatus in Taftan that they seem to ignorant or ineptitude in catching Jundullah which are hiding on your OWN LANDS ? We tipped you about Riggi presence in airplane. We handed over his brother to you. Crucial info to disrupt entire network in Sistan. Pray tell us how we are backstabbing you ?
another B.S from Pakistan, first of all about Abdulmalik rigi, he was identified and tracked by our own security forces from Afghanistan, Pakistan and UAE and finally his plane was force landed in Iran, According to our intelligence minister none of foreign states helped us for capturing him (no surprise). and I'm sure if would inform you, he would receive some anonymous calls and would change his path.

and about the man whom you captured last month and you didn't even know who he really is;
he is salam rigi (surename: Sattar) the leader of Jeish-ol-Nasr terrorist group, the former chief of Jeish-ol-Nasr was killed by Jeish-OI-Adl terrorist group (also in Pakistan). once they were the same, yet Jeish-ol-Nasr separated and Americans didn't like it, they didn't want to let them go out of control (like ISIS), Now you go figure out how your forces managed to capture this one too.

when our border guards kidnapped and transferred to Pakistan, your so honest government even denied their existence in there, yet in the end we managed to free three of them from mountains inside Pakistan, the body of the last one was also found and identified by our intelligence forces in Pakistan and transferred to Iran just a few days ago. it's topic is still up.

your government can't reveal his hand, so when location of one of these terrorists is revealed, they have no choice but to capture and hand them over to Iran. yet as I said in my previous comment, the current situation in our borders with Pakistan is a clear sign of our neighborhood's intentions.

between Iraq's and Pakistan's borders with Iran, the most unstable one is the Pakistan,
we know the situation in Iraq, after fall of Saddam they still don't have an effective army or intelligence force, what about Pakistan and it's mighty army and intelligence forces? does they not exist or simply they don't want to finish these terrorist groups.

and about economy, once upon a time there was a so called peace pipe, Pakistan signed a deal with us, we finished the project in our side, pipe reached the Pakistan border and bada... where is Pakistan's pipe? sorry we didn't have the money to build it.
keep this and the rest of ridiculous excuses to yourself and whoever that believes you.

2. If we want to help Sauida in Yemen, why it is causing so much burn to iranians like you ? Is yemen an exclave of Iran ? Is Yemen client state of Iran ? Do Pakistan object on your activities in Syria ?

Why is it kosher for iran to help syria but it is haram for Pakistan to help Saudia ?
It doesn't burns us at all, Saudis and whoever that supports them will fail as they have failed so far, and time will prove that, but that doesn't mean that we should stay silent about your actions.
every one knows that majority of terrorists in Syria are foreigners whom are armed by foreign states. we help Syrian government to defend their people, in Syria we don't fight for them, its Syrian people who are fighting and are supporting their government, we just give them training and equipments.

do you know why Mansur Hadi escaped to KSA and why houthies advance so quick and easily? cause their people support them, why Assad hasn't fallen after 3 years? cause his people support him. Iran just assists them. Iran remains beside of the people, not individuals or parties. and this is the fact which western chosen dictators in middle east try to hide, demand of people.
 
So basically these are what has happened in the past 3 days:

1- Saudi Arabia with a "coalition of willing" has "intervened" in Yemen to save a losing side.

2- US has supported Saudi Arabia in this attack, and ensured continued support.

3- Houthis are still advancing. The bombings have failed to have any effect on their advancement over the last stronghold of pro-Saudi faction

4- Though the cheer-leaders are getting high on obscure and inconsequential tactical matters, strategically Houthis are winning, by claiming more ground.

5- The only way to stop Houthis is to put a substantial number of boots on the ground. For Yemen with a population of 26 million, that would be about a quarter of a million army for full occupation of Yemen. Or at least 100K for a small portion of it (Aden for instance).

Why Saudi Arabia is afraid to put boots on the ground? Go in. Achieve your strategic objective. What are you scared of?
saudi arabia not afraid and war just started hold your breath houthis will be fucked and for iran focus on ISIS dmascus is will ................. f you now what i mean
 
I'm sorry I rely on my own eyes and think with my own brain. If you can't explain this yourself and simply parrot other people's words, then that's on you. There are 4 missile with 4 very distinct smoke trails in that picture...
The upper half of one missile's smoke trail and lower half of the same missiles smoke trail are taken from the other two missiles. There are 3 missiles, not 4. I give up after this post.
 
Two Saudi pilots eject over Red Sea, rescued with US help: Report | Zee News
Last Updated: Saturday, March 28, 2015 - 09:57

Cairo: A Saudi fighter plane was hit by a technical problem and its two pilots ejected over the Red Sea on Friday, state media said, adding that the pair had been returned to the country with American help.


"A plane of the F-15S type was stricken by a technical fault yesterday evening over the Red Sea and the two pilots were forced to use their rescue seats," state news agency WAS quoted a defense ministry official saying.

"Praise be to God, the pilots were rescued in coordination with the American side, and the two pilots are in good health and high spirits," the official said.

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