OpenAI CEO Sam Altman Says India's AI Startup Potential "Totally Hopeless"

[CIA Mole]

India is doing decent overall

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useless ranking as you can see from recent AI breakthroughs

nothing out of china

but thats wat u get when china’s ai is focused on establishing xi’s terror

 

[Cheepek]

Certain realities of life cannot be escaped. India is a country with an IQ of 77. It can’t possibly become an equal of US and EU (IQ = 100) or China (IQ = 104). It’s 23 points behind the US and 27 points behind China.

With a population of 1.4 billion there will be a certain number of people with IQ of 120 and above, and even some geniuses. But they will be far fewer in number than in high IQ countries.

This fact is visible in the huge gap in science and technology between India and China.

India can still make lots of economic progress compared to where it is now, but maybe never catch up in high tech.

PS: The same is true for Pakistan with an IQ of 81.

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A global comparison of intelligence in relation to temperature, income and education expenditures.

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman Says India's AI Startup Potential "Totally Hopeless"

Responding candidly to a question in the Indian capital New Delhi, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said: "The way this works is we're going to tell ...

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Responding candidly to a question in the Indian capital New Delhi, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said: "The way this works is we're going to tell you, it's totally hopeless to compete with us on training foundation models you shouldn't try, and it's your job to like try anyway. And I believe both of those things. I think it is pretty hopeless." This occurred at an event organized by The Economic Times where Altman answered a question by Rajan Anandan, a former Vice President of Google in India and South East Asia and current venture capitalist.

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman in India

Altman in Delhi:

Sam Altman, the young CEO of OpenAI, the company that recently launched its revolutionary Generative AI app ChatGPT, was in India as part of a six-nation tour to discuss AI regulation. ChatGPT has been trained on massive amounts of data and text from the internet and academic journals. It can write computer code and carry on sophisticated conversations on a lot of different subjects. Altman is also visiting China. He was invited to speak at an event sponsored by Indian publication Economic Times. Here's the full exchange between Anandan and Altman about the potential for an Indian AI startup:

Anandan: "Sam, we have got a very vibrant ecosystem in India but specifically focussing on AI, are there spaces where you see a startup from India building foundational (AI) models; how should we think about that. Where is it that a team from India, with three super-smart engineers having not 100, but USD 10 million each could actually build something truly substantial?"

Altman: "The way this works is, we're going to tell you. It's totally hopeless to compete with us on training foundation models. You shouldn't try, and it's your job to like trying anyway. And I believe both of those things. I think it is pretty hopeless."

Challenge Accepted:

Judging by social media responses, most Indians reacted angrily to Altman's negative remarks. They accused him of "arrogance". Others saw his statement as a challenge and responded by accepting the challenge.

Tech Mahindra CEO CP Gurnani said he accepts the challenge. “OpenAI founder Sam Altman said it's pretty hopeless for Indian companies to try and compete with them. Dear Sam Altman, from one CEO to another...CHALLENGE ACCEPTED,” tweeted Gurnani.

India's Tech Industry:

Americans like Sam Altman know that India's tech industry is made up mainly of companies that are essentially body shops. These companies like Infosys, TCS and others supply Indian H1B workers to perform routine tasks in IT operations departments of western companies. These companies' revenue, labeled India's "IT exports", comes from the substantial cuts they keep from the wages of millions of Indian H1B workers. These workers replace higher-paid American employees. Rapid developments in AI technology are now threatening such jobs.

In 2016, India filed a complaint with the World Trade Organization (WTO) when the US raised visa fees to $4000 for each H1B worker visa. Indian government argued that it is discriminatory to the country under its trade agreement with the US.

Indian startups are not based on any original ideas born in India. They are essentially copies of similar e-commerce or logistics or payments startups in the western world.

Altman in China:

Altman is also visiting China this week. “China has some of the best AI talent in the world and fundamentally, given the difficulties in solving alignment for advanced AI systems, this requires the best minds from around the world,” Altman told participants at the event hosted by the Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence.

Western Media:

Indians were justifiably very proud of their great scientific achievement when the India Space Agency ISRO successfully launched the nation's Mars Mission back in 2013. The New York Times, America's leading newspaper, mocked India with a cartoon depicting the country as a dhoti-wearing farmer with his cow knocking on the door of the Elite Space Club.

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New York Times Cartoon ​ Der Spiegel's Cartoon Comparing India and China

In an article titled "Paper Elephant", the Economist magazine talked about how India has ramped up its military spending and emerged as the world's largest arms importer. "Its military doctrine envisages fighting simultaneous land wars against Pakistan and China while retaining dominance in the Indian Ocean", the article said. It summed up the situation as follows: "India spends a fortune on defense and gets poor value for money".

After the India-Pakistan aerial combat over Kashmir, New York Times published a story from its South Asia correspondent headlined: "After India Loses Dogfight to Pakistan, Questions Arise About Its Military". Here are some excerpts of the report:

"Its (India's) loss of a plane last week to a country (Pakistan) whose military is about half the size and receives a quarter (a sixth according to SIPRI) of the funding is telling. ...India’s armed forces are in alarming shape....It was an inauspicious moment for a military the United States is banking on to help keep an expanding China in check".

Der Spiegel Cartoon:

In April this year, German publication Der Spiegel published a cartoon as India surpassed China as the world's most populous nation. The cartoon poked fun at India's lack of progress relative to its northern neighbor. It shows jubilant Indians on an old and overcrowded train – many on the roof – as it overtakes a sleek Chinese bullet train.

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German Cartoon Comparing China and India. Source: Der Spiegel

Spanish Newspaper Cartoon:'

In May 2022, Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia published a story titled "La hora de la economia India" along with a cartoon showing an Indian snake charmer. Indian media reacted angrily to what they saw as a racist stereotype.

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Spanish Cartoon on Indian Economy. Source: La Vanguardia

US Disrespects India:

Notwithstanding the geopolitically-motivated public rhetoric of US presidents and other western leaders, the fact is that they do not respect India. "One hard truth that Indians have to contend with is that America has also had difficulty treating India with respect", writes former Singaporean diplomat Kishore Mahbubani in his latest book "Has China Won?". "If America wants to develop a close long-term relationship with India over the long run, it needs to confront the deep roots of its relative lack of respect for India", adds Ambassador Mahbubani. It's not just Mahbubani who suspects the United States leadership does not respect India. Others, including former President Bill Clinton, ex US President Donald Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and CNN GPS host Fareed Zakaria have expressed similar sentiments.

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Source: @BeltandRoadDesk

Trump and Clinton:

There is some evidence to support Ambassador Mahbubani's assertion about America's lack of respect for India. For example, ex US President Bill Clinton said in 1990s that India has a Rodney Dangerfield problem: It can’t get no respect, according to his deputy secretary of state Strobe Talbott. In a diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks in 2010, Hillary Clinton referred to India as "a self-appointed frontrunner for a permanent UN security council seat."

More recently, US President Donald Trump mocked Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi about Indian contribution to Afghanistan. Trump said he got along very well with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, but the Indian leader was "constantly telling me he built a library in Afghanistan". "That's like five hours of what we spend... And we are supposed to say, 'oh, thank you for the library'. I don't know who is using it in Afghanistan," Trump said.

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman Says India's AI Startup Potential "Totally Hopeless"

Responding candidly to a question in the Indian capital New Delhi, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said: "The way this works is we're going to tell ...

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@RiazHaq We should be learning from Pakistan

 

[CallSignMaverick]

@RiazHaq We should be learning from Pakistan

Meanwhile those who have skin in the game:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1668618910894260232

 

[surmabhopali]

Most major US tech company CEOs, including Sundar Pichai and Satya Nadella, are professional managers with MBAs from US schools.

These CEOs don't develop technology; it's done by technologists.

Pichai and Nadella became CEOs of mature companies with significant revenues and profits.....not when Google and Microsoft were developing their core technology.

You are in US , you failed to become CEO of any company , but Indians are getting top most jobs , why ?

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

You are in US , you failed to become CEO of any company , but Indians are getting top most jobs , why ?

Slave CEOs.

 

[MajesticPug]

Only individuals with sub 65 IQ believe in these lists


@RiazHaq We should be learning from Pakistan

Foreign investors came to India with high hopes of a big market and cheap labor; yet they all left with a broken heart and pockets with holes.

 

[Cheepek]

Foreign investors came to India with high hopes of a big market and cheap labor; yet they all left with a broken heart and pockets with holes.

And then you woke up?

 

[surmabhopali]

Slave CEOs.

Ha ha ha ......

Kings become CEO of kabab cart on corner street of newyork . Other kings work as CEO waiter in Nihari shop in New jersey .

 

[delta2]

Slave CEOs.

Most companies the Indians became CEOs of were turned into dust.

Under its Indian CEO, Google was beaten by TikTok. TikTok beat Google in number of searches performed.

There is a huge list of companies ruined by Indian incompetence out there. Any company an Indian became a CEO of, it either collapsed, went bankrupt or lost its edge.

Not to mention Twitter, Musk fired around 80% of twitter employees. Must took it from a clueless Indian CEO.

 

[_NOBODY_]

unless india goes down the right path of capitalism and free markets and becomes rich and indians can be proud

"Free markets" make the rich richer and turn the government into their little puppet. Additionally, the so-called "free markets" only stay free until the uber-rich manage to successfully establish monopolies. After that the top 1% want the markets to be regulated so that their monopolies can't be ended.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

Most major US tech company CEOs, including Sundar Pichai and Satya Nadella, are professional managers with MBAs from US schools.

Pichai joined Google when it was still pretty much in infancy, over there he led the development efforts of many of their widely used key products like Chrome, GMAIL, Maps etc, you think he was chosen to lead the most innovative company in the world just like that?

 

[delta2]

As usual, clickbait.


LoL another BS, UPI didn't come out of thin air, neither did JAM Trinity.


lol what?


Dhoti wearers went to Mars on first attempt yet.


So you're seeking validation from them?

They don't respect anyone

Fact is that India built stuff on ground, what others say won't change the fact Mr. GoraValidationSeeker.


Wow grape, India has gone to the dogs, and apparently pakistan is on the cusp of being a supa powa.
Since you love gora validation a lot, here's their opinion on both nations.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665743782338256899

China did reforms a decade ago than us and hence always had an edge. Other factors like IP theft being legalised, JVs with foreign cos. allowing tech exposure among others.

We all know who's obsessed with whom

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/ki9mef

China isn't our peer, same question could be asked to you, why pakistanis compare themselves in every aspect to India when their real peers are Tanzania, Lesotho, Uganda etc?

Why does pakistan lag behind Indonesia when the two countries are almost equal in terms of population and number of consumers, the main draw for investors worldwide?

First learn the difference between an Indian nationalist and a Hindu nationalist.

Indians are more concerned about themselves and what happens in the global economies. Tbh pakistan just remains a source of entertainment for Indians, whether you agree or not.

Indian still cannot manufacuter military grade resistors for God's sake. You get everything from Russia and the Europeans even though happy to sell tech to you will never give you their top tier stuff. Everything India buys has a backdoor in it.

Pakistan makes what it needs on its own with occasionaly collaboration with China.

Pakistan beats the crap out of India where it matters: Defense and offense tech.

 

[delta2]

Pichai joined Google when it was still pretty much in infancy, over there he led the development efforts of many of their widely used key products like Chrome, GMAIL, Maps etc, you think he was chosen to lead the most innovative company in the world just like that?

Wouldn't it make more sense to creare a start-up in India and use all that "talent"?

Buchheit created and made Gmail what it is. Pichai played no role in it. He joined Google as Google was getting ready to roll things out.

Pichai joined Google when it was still pretty much in infancy, over there he led the development efforts of many of their widely used key products like Chrome, GMAIL, Maps etc, you think he was chosen to lead the most innovative company in the world just like that?

The hell loll.. Google was already a giant before they hired him.

 

[delta2]

Pichai joined Google when it was still pretty much in infancy, over there he led the development efforts of many of their widely used key products like Chrome, GMAIL, Maps etc, you think he was chosen to lead the most innovative company in the world just like that?

No, the most innovative American company lost it's number one spot tp Chinese TikTok under an Indian CEO.

Don’t know why do these Pakistanis think that whatever India can do Pakistanis can also replicate the same, these coomerfags don’t even have expertise in building basic motorcycle engines let alone advanced avionics, and the dream of building advanced Active Electronically Scanned Array radars that will require compound semiconductor (Gallium Arsenide or Gallium Nitride) fabrication plants is nothing more than a joke.

Their avionics R&D is so primitive that Pakis have to do Joint Ventures which CAC China (openly accepted on PAC Kamra website and I’ve mentioned it before) for local assembly of avionics used in JF-17 Blunder. We very well know the industrial capabilities of this pre-industrial shithole when it comes to manufacturing of engineering goods.

Now please don’t tell me that Pakistan is going to build an advanced air-to-air BVRAAM without importing semi-knocked down kits from China
Pakis industrial, educational and R&D base is primitive but still inbreds can directly develop GaN radar, towed array, project hazam, lauda lassan etc..

I guess these all things will be pindigenous just like their missiles. Pakis should better start finding excuses to tell their jahil awaam that they are and will remain backward bcz within a decade gap will become so large that no monkey balancing will work.

Lol you cannot manufacute military grade resistors. It is beyond your ability. You buy kits from Russia.

Why do you think the West loves selling you their high tech stuff? They know you are incapable of reverse engineering anything.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

No, the most innovative American company lost it's number one spot tp Chinese TikTok under an Indian CEO.

You believe TikTok is more innovative than Google or other US tech giants, I mean seriously ?