Open Discussion: Myanmar and Bangladesh Armed Force

[Nilgiri]

We never care abt monkey force. lol. What a force-

Thats funny, a Bangladeshi calling someone else a monkey

 

[Penguin]

Interesting. Our (Burmese) frigates do not have a very sophisticated missile based AD system, it is a Glibka like system using either the Strela or Igla missiles in an integrated system but carry 4 units of Ak-630 CIWS guns each. How would that measure up to a barrage of C-802's in your opinion?

I think (preferably two e.g. in Aung Zeya class for better coverage) Gibka systems are a good complement to AK630, giving a bit more range. And since the missiles are fire and forget, not placing a burden in terms of additional fire control equipment. Compact, light, small footprint on deck, easily reloadable. Good weapon against C-802? Hard to say. I could see how it - like many MANPADs may be a little (too) light in terms of warhead size to provide adequate stopping power against a big missile. So, personally, I would prefer a bigger missile, preferably VL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla#Comparison_chart_to_other_MANPADS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

 

[~Phoenix~]

- The boy @UKBengali was talking about attack runs on our fleet with bombs. Which wouldn't be possible as the airforce would be protecting the fleet.

Unless your navy comes too deep inside our maritime territory...

Interesting. Our (Burmese) frigates do not have a very sophisticated missile based AD system, it is a Glibka like system using either the Strela or Igla missiles in an integrated system but carry 4 units of Ak-630 CIWS guns each. How would that measure up to a barrage of C-802's in your opinion?

I doubt that it will stand a chance against C-704s and C-802s...plus we have Otomat Misil and C-803s...

- We don't have MANPADS as air-defence. We have the same missiles as MANPADS use. Big difference.

But thats just a manpad on a turret lol,whats the difference?

well.. do u have any design for this..? show me..

Top secret stuff...You need to work in BAC to know...

 

[Aung Zaya]

Top secret stuff...You need to work in BAC to know..

even 4.5/5th Gen KFX/IFX already shown its conceptual design.. are u going to 6th gen...? or still dont have even a conceptual design... ?

 

[~Phoenix~]

Dear Anti-BD Indians,why are you guys gonna send full support to Myanmar? Does it look like as if we two are going to war soon?
We are just homies and this thread is for open discussion...

even 4.5/5th Gen KFX/IFX already shown its conceptual design.. are u going to 6th gen...? or still dont have even a conceptual design... ?

Bruh,you forgot that our government is way over secretive...You will get in trouble if you are being inquistive about the military here...

@alaungphaya @Aung Zaya
What naval SEAL/UDT or a commando force Myanmar has?

 

[Desist]

Thats funny, a Bangladeshi calling someone else a monkey

Come on man, prefix your insults with jamaati when you use them for a Bangladeshi. I've found the rest of them pretty decent otherwise.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Bruh,you forgot that our government is way over secretive...You will get in trouble if you are being inquistive about the military here...

i dont think u Gov is over secretive.. all what u have in inventory always showed in ur Victory Day.. Anything left to show..? my guess is "NO'... U guy showed off even a big display screen putting on the truck in last year... and i think even C-802 Ashm in the same way too...!!! not many long time ago..

Opppss..!! sry..!! it's C-704..
Even a ship...

 

[Major d1]

lol... who care u..?

Then come on .

Thats funny, a Bangladeshi calling someone else a monkey

Face value means a lot - . wat Mayammar has defined.

Then come on .



Face value means a lot - . wat Mayammar has defined.

@Aung Zaya .. in the @naf @war we already proved. Where we are .

Shame... To M...o..n..k..e..yy...ssss

 

[Aung Zaya]

@Aung Zaya .. in the @naf @war we already proved. Where we are .

Shame... To M...o..n..k..e..yy...ssss

Can u show some Photos evidence..? LOL

 

[Major d1]

Mayanmar army killed by BGB . lol

Can u show some Photos evidence..? LOL

U have no Idea about NAF war ? And you are taking about Mayanmar defence site ? Hollycus.

Can u show some Photos evidence..? LOL

Inside Story of NAF War between Bangladesh vs Myanmer.
(Must Read

The whole deteils is written by our WAR HERO - "Alm Fazlur Rahman"

"Naf is a bordering river between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Upper Naf has about 12 branches of smaller river. In 1966, Pakistan and Burma concluded a treaty agreeing that none of the countries will train the Naf river or branches of rivers . With the natural shifting of depth of river the demarcation of boundary between the countries will shift. When I took over as DG BDR I was told that 28 hundred acres TOTAL DIP OF BANGLADESH had been grabbed by Myanmar by shifting the depth of Naf river by building dams, groans and spars on the stewaries of main Naf river taking advantage of 1966 treaty. Suddenly, Myanmar started building dam on the last branches of Naf river, if completed whole TAKNAF would go into the sea. We protested but in-vain. Myanmar didn't stop. To protect the building side Myanmar deployed two divisions Army under command two major generals one from army and another from Navy. We positioned 2500 BDR troops under DDG BDR and kept the command directly under me. In one night, I moved 25 lac different types of ammunition and bombs in Cox's Bazar. Kept half in Cox's Bazar and sent half to the war positions. On 1st January 2000 at about 2.30 pm, I gave order for firing and the offensive strick was on. It lasted for 3 days in which 600 Myanmar army soldiers were killed. The war was live broadcasted by reporters Z. I. Mamun and Supan Roy on Ekushey Television. On 4th January, Myanmar's Head of the State Senior General Than Shwe call all the diplomats in Rangoon telling them that, Myanmar wants no war with Bangladesh. Cease fire was effected and a letter came from Myanmar govt saying, "We invite a delegation from Bangladesh to discuss all outstanding matters between two countries without any preconditions". Negotiation started under joint secretary (political affairs) Janibul Haque of the Ministry of Home Affairs, who headed the Bangladesh delegation in Myanmar. During the bilateral talks, Myanmar side was so wrought-up that they didn't even provide typewriters. And the treaty was signed on hand written documents. Myanmar dismantle the dam, thus we could save Teknaf from being lost into the Bay of Bengal. We defeated Myanmar's forces completely with no loss of life from our side. This is in nutshell about NAF WAR."

Special thanks to - Alm Fazlur Rahman

i dont think u Gov is over secretive.. all what u have in inventory always showed in ur Victory Day.. Anything left to show..? my guess is "NO'... U guy showed off even a big display screen putting on the truck in last year... and i think even C-802 Ashm in the same way too...!!! not many long time ago..
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Opppss..!! sry..!! it's C-704..
Even a ship...
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[Aung Zaya]

U have no Idea about NAF war ? And you are taking about Mayanmar defence site ? Hollycus.

Lol genius of 21th century detected..!!

 

[Major d1]

Lol genius of 21th century detected..!!

Ow thank u . At last eyez on the glass.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Mayanmar army killed by BGB . lol

U have no Idea about NAF war ? And you are taking about Mayanmar defence site ? Hollycus.




Inside Story of NAF War between Bangladesh vs Myanmer.
(Must Read

The whole deteils is written by our WAR HERO - "Alm Fazlur Rahman"

"Naf is a bordering river between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Upper Naf has about 12 branches of smaller river. In 1966, Pakistan and Burma concluded a treaty agreeing that none of the countries will train the Naf river or branches of rivers . With the natural shifting of depth of river the demarcation of boundary between the countries will shift. When I took over as DG BDR I was told that 28 hundred acres TOTAL DIP OF BANGLADESH had been grabbed by Myanmar by shifting the depth of Naf river by building dams, groans and spars on the stewaries of main Naf river taking advantage of 1966 treaty. Suddenly, Myanmar started building dam on the last branches of Naf river, if completed whole TAKNAF would go into the sea. We protested but in-vain. Myanmar didn't stop. To protect the building side Myanmar deployed two divisions Army under command two major generals one from army and another from Navy. We positioned 2500 BDR troops under DDG BDR and kept the command directly under me. In one night, I moved 25 lac different types of ammunition and bombs in Cox's Bazar. Kept half in Cox's Bazar and sent half to the war positions. On 1st January 2000 at about 2.30 pm, I gave order for firing and the offensive strick was on. It lasted for 3 days in which 600 Myanmar army soldiers were killed. The war was live broadcasted by reporters Z. I. Mamun and Supan Roy on Ekushey Television. On 4th January, Myanmar's Head of the State Senior General Than Shwe call all the diplomats in Rangoon telling them that, Myanmar wants no war with Bangladesh. Cease fire was effected and a letter came from Myanmar govt saying, "We invite a delegation from Bangladesh to discuss all outstanding matters between two countries without any preconditions". Negotiation started under joint secretary (political affairs) Janibul Haque of the Ministry of Home Affairs, who headed the Bangladesh delegation in Myanmar. During the bilateral talks, Myanmar side was so wrought-up that they didn't even provide typewriters. And the treaty was signed on hand written documents. Myanmar dismantle the dam, thus we could save Teknaf from being lost into the Bay of Bengal. We defeated Myanmar's forces completely with no loss of life from our side. This is in nutshell about NAF WAR."

Special thanks to - Alm Fazlur Rahman




FOR YOU ---

we has no loss and we killed 600 troops.. ? Go and write a better story.. Something like that..' We killed thousands of Myanmar troops.. Avengers , Superman stand with us and we called even Deadpool to help us. Then we killed them all Blah blah..!! Lol A happy story ,huh.?

 

[Aung Zaya]

light in terms of warhead size to provide adequate stopping power against a big missile. So, personally, I would prefer a bigger missile, preferably VL.

Agreed bro.. We need some bigger SAM for our ships.. We will have a few seconds to intercept the missiles if we missed 1st counter attack.. Too rely on CIWS..

alaungphaya @Aung Zaya
What naval SEAL/UDT or a commando force

Well.. STF

SEAL

SWAT

And other... Coz i don't have photos of them..
We should start with typical armed force of us.. Random discussion will lead to fight..!!! Lol

 

[Penguin]

I think (preferably two e.g. in Aung Zeya class for better coverage) Gibka systems are a good complement to AK630, giving a bit more range. And since the missiles are fire and forget, not placing a burden in terms of additional fire control equipment. Compact, light, small footprint on deck, easily reloadable. Good weapon against C-802? Hard to say. I could see how it - like many MANPADs may be a little (too) light in terms of warhead size to provide adequate stopping power against a big missile. So, personally, I would prefer a bigger missile, preferably VL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla#Comparison_chart_to_other_MANPADS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

Just for comparison: grouping by warhead weight

Rim-7 Sea Sparrow: 41kg warhead, 230kg missile (17.8%)
RIM-162 ESSM: 39kg warhead, 280kg missile (13.9%)
SA-N-4 "Gecko" /4K33 "OSA-M" (9M33M missile) 19kg-40kg warhead, missile 126-170kg (15.1%-23.5%)

Umkhonto: 23kg high kill probability warhead, total missile weight 125 kg (18.4%)
Barak-1: 22kg blast fragmentation warhead, total missile 98kg (22.4%)

Crotale R-440/HQ-7A(FM-80N)/HQ-7B(FM-90N): 15kg he-frag warhead, total missile 84.5kg (17.8%)
3K95 "Kinzhal" or "Klinok / SA-N-9 Gauntlet / HQ17: 15 kg warhead, 167kg missile (9%)
Sea Wolf (rail launch): 14kg HE-Frag warhead, total missile 82kg (17.1%)
Crotale NG (VT-1 missile): 13 kg directional he-frag warhead, total missile 76kg (17.1%)
Sea Wolf VL: 13.4kg warhead, total missile 140kg (9.6%)
Mica VL: 12kg warhead, total missile 112kg (10.7%)
RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile: 11.3kg warhead, 73.5kg missile (15.4%)
CAMM: 10kg blast-frag warhead. CAMM is 99kg (10.1%) while CAMM-ER is 160kg (6.3%)
9M311 (Kashtan / CADS-N-1): 9kg warhead, 57kg missile (15.8%)

FL3000N (TY-90 missile): 3kg expanding rod HE warhead, total missile 20kg (15%)
RBS-70 warhead 1.1 kg HE shaped charge, packed in 3,000 tungsten spheres, total missile 27kg (4.1+%)
Mistral: 3 kilogram warhead, total missile 19.5 kilogram (15.4%)
FIM-92 Stinger: 3 kg warhead, 15.2kg missile (19.7%)

9K38 Igla: 1.17kg he-frag warhead with 390g explosive, total missile 10.8kg (10.8%)
9K34 Strela-3: 1.17 kg he-frag warhead with 390g explosive, incl. 20g secondary charge to set off remaining rocket propellant, total missile 10.3kg (11.4%)
9K32 Strela-2M (SA-N-5): 1.15 kg he-frag warhead with 370g explosive, total missile 9.8 kg (11.7%)

Note how few missiles have a warhead that makes up more than 15% of the missile weight (let alone 20%). This would be something to look for, aside from warhead weight in the absolute. Note also that more modern missile may use newer explosives/warhead type which may weigh less for the same level of warhead effectiveness as older missiles.