One example - why I believed strongly in a secular India.

[Naofumi]

Yes tagging me like this is most appropriate (specific query and alongside people that arent on ignore from me).

On your proposal to "ban communism" (at the earliest juncture independent India had) as it would have been "beneficial" in the long run....I must protest and disagree.

A) It would have been unconstitutional (or are you saying we should have written the constitution way differently?)

B) It is always best to air out all political ideologies (as long as they are legal ones i.e respect and operate under the republican + democratic setup) and let them rise and fall on their merit. This is important so we know what works and what doesn't...otherwise imagine if people today simply could blame that X was banned, and thus must be promoted today because it never got any chance at all.

C) Large reason of communism/socialism failure long term was not really known at the time of early - mid 20th century, it was on great ascendancy at that time. I do not blame lot of elites too much for setting about subscribing to it and promoting it. Hindsight is 20/20

D) The problems systemic to India are something communism could have fixed (just like right wing or centrist or regional parties also could have)...it just depended on figuring out the priorities of development (public + merit goods and services if you want to read further in economics realm) and how to enshrine their promotion institutionally.



How did Israel ban it? You know what a kibbutz is? The whole early aegis of Israel was on somewhat staunch left wing principles and ideals starting out (if you read up on Ben Gurion, Golda Meir etc).

South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan did so as part of being US vassals essentially. It is not appropriate principle for country like India to follow which by very size is a mid to long term rival/threat to US, USSR, Europe etc.

That's the whole point - Israel serves as an apt contrast, USSR thought it would be the flag bearer of Socialism in ME (Labour party etc) but they gone to the West camp firmly, now we must differentiate between ideological solidarity (strong in communists worldwide) and ground level policies, what Israelis discarded was the first thing and that makes the whole difference from diplomatic point of view.

Further, elobrating on this point is if CPI had ever won general elections in India, they would have gone to USSR camp but that was not true for any mainstream Israeli party (imo).

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Anyone is better than a mass murderer.

Isay kahte hai har ball pe sixer.

@xeuss I want to be your friend for real, man. Will you exchange contact with me?

You remind me of the famous Lebowski character - the "Dude"

 

[xeuss]

Isay kahte hai har ball pe sixer.

@xeuss I want to be your friend for real, man. Will you exchange contact with me?

You remind me of the famous Lebowski character - the "Dude"

There is a waiting list. I'll let you know when an opening pops up

 

[Soumitra]

Anyone is better than a mass murderer.

If you have any proof show it to the SC.

BTW thank god people of 303 constituencies don't agree with you

 

[Chhatrapati]

Agreed- The last decade of congress rule is why they were fucked out of power. Time to say **** you to BJP/RSS now.

Because? Why should I? It's not like every day we get someone to rule who is not corrupt to the core and having a shady family connection. The only party that could pose a threat to BJP, as hilarious it may sound, is the Communist Party.
Parties with a good cadre structure cannot be easily dismantled, congress is a big screw up top to bottom and still riding on the whole Independence movement sympathy. The newer generation of citizens never experienced it, and hence have not much love for them, they have simply become an alternative to BJP. What we are left with is regional parties who never grow out of their regions. Did you find the answer to why NDA won with more than 50% of Indians supporting it?

 

[Naofumi]

Did you find the answer to why NDA won with more than 50% of Indians supporting it?

45%

 

[xeuss]

If you have any proof show it to the SC.

BTW thank god people of 303 constituencies don't agree with you

The Supreme Court and citizens of 303 constituencies support a mass murderer. Just like you.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Did you find the answer to why NDA won with more than 50% of Indians supporting it?

If I were to guess- A promise on creating wealth and economy, the same reason Congress won back to back- Knowing how the voters in India vote-I would not be too surprised if BJP decimated in the next elections-(Regional parties will have a big hand in this for sure).

 

[Soumitra]

The Supreme Court and citizens of 303 constituencies support a mass murderer. Just like you.

 

[xeuss]

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Hindu Khatre Main hai

 

[Chhatrapati]

If I were to guess- A promise on creating wealth and economy, the same reason Congress won back to back- Knowing how the voters in India vote-I would not be too surprised if BJP decimated in the next elections-(Regional parties will have a big hand in this for sure).

That's a myth. It was true earlier but people are interested in National Politics now that, they either vote for Congress or BJP and not for XYZ party that pops up in every corner. You can see how AAP won Delhi and lost in Delhi in two elections.

 

[Naofumi]

That's a myth. It was true earlier but people are interested in National Politics now that, they either vote for Congress or BJP and not for XYZ party that pops up in every corner. You can see how AAP won Delhi and lost in Delhi in two elections.

Modi would need another Balakot though.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Now people are free to troll but it's a reality of India. It does not matter who comes in power in central government and small fight between Muslims and Hindu will be continued but finally, we will be the remain a family.

The fact remains, minorities specially muslims are oppressed in India and few example this means nothing.

Modi would need another Balakot though.

You mean another fake bollywood story?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Modi would need another Balakot though.

No, Modi simply needs RaGa to be the face of opposition and let the opposition keep spending their energy trying to take down Modi, one thing you lot never learn is there is no way you can take down Modi directly throughout a campaign. It's been going on for 20 years, keep trying for another decade, you'll reach somewhere.

 

[ChennaiDude]

That's a myth. It was true earlier but people are interested in National Politics now that, they either vote for Congress or BJP and not for XYZ party that pops up in every corner. You can see how AAP won Delhi and lost in Delhi in two elections.

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us (India and Its people-not you or me per se).”

Modi would need another Balakot though.

The Balakot strike is related to the Pulwama attack, you and I know that!- The timing of it was not related, unless Pulwama was also an inside job- This is way above yours and my pay grade to understand, but off course conspiracy theorists will always come up with such- This particular instance, I would give the GOI the benefit of doubt.

There is a waiting list. I'll let you know when an opening pops up

I was under the impression that we were all friends here discussing opinions and exchanging ideas- Its not about you agree with me you are my friend and if you dont you are not!- Diversity is achieved my exchanging diverse ideas and opinions without agreeing or disagreeing-NO.