Once home of the Calipha - Istanbul

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

from twitter trend in Pakistan

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We cant ignore the fact that bin laden helped us to not get sandwiched between USSR and india

 

[truthfollower]

Had come to know of this in a video by Arslan Naseer, follow him for the lols

OMG! poor wasim akram

 

[Titanium100]

I have been to Istanbul and most of Turkey I was disappointed to be honest. I couldn't recognize the place and I thought I was somewhere else.

Example in the video at 6:42 that couple is holding hands and I have even seen some couples kissing on streets casually and it was completely normal.

If Caliph Abdul Hamid knew of this he would have given them the famous Ottoman slap

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

I have been to Istanbul and most of Turkey I was disappointed to be honest. I couldn't recognize the place and I thought I was somewhere else.

Example in the video at 6:42 that couple is holding hands and I have even seen some couples kissing on streets casually and it was completely normal.

If Caliph Abdul Hamid knew of this he would have given them the famous Ottoman slap

Your disappointment was because of your own mistake. Do not go to Turkey thinking you are going to Kayi Tribe or Saudi Arabia. Turkey has been secular for generations and you can find all types of people there.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Turkey is actually a mix of cultures.

Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.

Erdogan is supposed to be putatively a Islamist leader and head of AKP. After 20 years rule with ten years as almost absolute power Turkey remains stauncily secular. You land at Istanbul airport the first thing that hits you is hoarding for alcohlic drinks.

Most Turks look down on Syrians as backward. The fact is Syrians are far more progressive then Pakistani's. The only reason the Turks have a pro Pakistan bias is because they are uber nationalists or "vatan-parast" which involves a extreme form of patriotism to Turkishness which is based on blood. This even has undertones of pagan Tengrism of the ancient Turkish tribes. with wolf being their marker.

In their history books they are taught that antecedents of Pakistan's helped Ataturk's Turkish armies. For them that is it. They don't premise their affection on Islam. A Turkish athiest is as pro Pakistan as a religious Turk.

But trust me as soon as typical Turks become aware that mosrt Pakistani's are even more backward then Arabs their affection will wilt. I know most here are so deluded that non of what I said will cut.

But think about this. After 20 years what does Erogans's Turkey look like. And invite a Turk to this thread to rebut what I said.

 

[Titanium100]

Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.

Erdogan is supposed to be putatively a Islamist leader and head of AKP. After 20 years rule with ten years as almost absolute power Turkey remains stauncily secular. You land at Istanbul airport the first thing that hits you is hoarding for alcohlic drinks.

Most Turks look down on Syrians as backward. The fact is Syrians are far more progressive then Pakistani's. The only reason the Turks have a pro Pakistan bias is because they are uber nationalists or "vatan-parast" which involves a extreme form of patriotism to Turkishness which is based on blood. This even has undertones of pagan Tengrism of the ancient Turkish tribes. with wolf being their marker.

In their history books they are taught that antecedents of Pakistan's helped Ataturk's Turkish armies. For them that is it. They don't premise their affection on Islam. A Turkish athiest is as pro Pakistan as a religious Turk.

But trust me as soon as typical Turks become aware that mosrt Pakistani's are even more backward then Arabs their affection will wilt. I know most here are so deluded that non of what I said will cut.

But think about this. After 20 years what does Erogans's Turkey look like. And invite a Turk to this thread to rebut what I said.

Hmm? Why do I feel like this post is anti-Islam or just being anti all religions? Are you an athiest or something because if you are no reason in being triggered in what other people do with their free will or chose to believe in..

You are trying to mask being faithful as backwardness which in it is self is direct attack against the fundations of someone who is devout or wants to be one..

All your threads seems to have an agenda but easy to read thru them

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I have been to Istanbul and most of Turkey I was disappointed to be honest. I couldn't recognize the place and I thought I was somewhere else.

Well at least you had your eyes and mind open. Istanbul, Ankara or other cities are exactly like Paris, Berlin or London. Even in month of Ramadhan bars selling alcohol, restaraurents etc are open. There no sign of Turkish Saad Rizvi and a mob going around burning these haram places down in holy month. Somebody compared Lahore with Turkey. Tell me in Gulberg or Mall a entire district of bars/clubs/pubs selling alcohol with miniskirted women walking about legally and in the open?

And they have Erdogan in power. Can you imagine what is going to happen when he goes which will happen sooner or later. The day of gays and lesbians being legalized are about 10 years away.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Look mate your not talking with a teenager. I know what Turkey is. I have gone there many times over decades. Yes, like any society they have a broad spectrum but here is a fact. You can wear a miniskirt, drink alcohol in any part of Turkey even during Ramadan. And nothing will happen. Yes, you can also be ultra religious but the fact is the Turks as whole are a secular people who are shifting more toward Europe. They despise Arabs. Hate Arab culture.

Erdogan is supposed to be putatively a Islamist leader and head of AKP. After 20 years rule with ten years as almost absolute power Turkey remains stauncily secular. You land at Istanbul airport the first thing that hits you is hoarding for alcohlic drinks.

Most Turks look down on Syrians as backward. The fact is Syrians are far more progressive then Pakistani's. The only reason the Turks have a pro Pakistan bias is because they are uber nationalists or "vatan-parast" which involves a extreme form of patriotism to Turkishness which is based on blood. This even has undertones of pagan Tengrism of the ancient Turkish tribes. with wolf being their marker.

In their history books they are taught that antecedents of Pakistan's helped Ataturk's Turkish armies. For them that is it. They don't premise their affection on Islam. A Turkish athiest is as pro Pakistan as a religious Turk.

But trust me as soon as typical Turks become aware that mosrt Pakistani's are even more backward then Arabs their affection will wilt. I know most here are so deluded that non of what I said will cut.

But think about this. After 20 years what does Erogans's Turkey look like. And invite a Turk to this thread to rebut what I said.

I have never been to Turkey and I know what you mean neither did I consider you a teenager when I made that comment. I just made a comment. Yes Turkey is still secular there are many Turks who have the thinking " We do not hate Pakistanis but do not like them either" . Not all Turkish consider syrian backwards, a close friend of mine , her sister got married to a syrian. They are leaning towards Europe because they want to be a part of EU and we all know why most of them despise arabs but they still love DUbai.

 

[Indos]

Pakistan Mall and Indonesian Mall is quite similar in Islamic vibe, majority are wearing Hijab but there are some who dont

 

[Varunastra]

Pakistan Mall and Indonesian Mall is quite similar in Islamic vibe, majority are wearing Hijab but there are some who dont

You saying Pakistan is more closer to Indonesia than it is to Turkey?

 

[hussain0216]

Who cares, should Pakistani be less passionate about our faith or own values and principles because of others???

Liberals, Hindus, westerners all have the same bone stuck up their asses

why do Pakistani care so much about our own faith,

Hindus burn up because we dumped their idol worshipping Jahilat and couldn't give a toss about it

Liberals burn up because it makes it difficult for them to be the whoremongers and alcoholic trash openly they really want to be

Westerners simply hate that we are largely conservative Muslims


Fcuk em all

 

[Indos]

You saying Pakistan is more closer to Indonesia than it is to Turkey?

Yup, Turkey is quite exception in Muslim world due to the influence of de-Islamization during Ataturk period. And this is why I dont understand of why AKP can still win there, basically the society is much liberal than other Muslim countries (except ex USSR region in Central Asia which also experience de-Islamization during Communist rule)

 

[Titanium100]

Yup, Turkey is quite exception in Muslim world due to the influence of de-Islamization during Ataturk period. Despite so I dont understand of why AKP can win there.

Not only Turkey. There is Albania, Morocco, Bosnia, Algeria, UAE, Qatar, Kosovo, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan. Turkemenistan, Tajikstan, Bahrain and Tunisia..

 

[truthfollower]

We cant ignore the fact that bin laden helped us to not get sandwiched between USSR and india

yes please honor the terrorist like mumtaz qadri

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Islam itself is such a beautiful culture and this is looking it from none religious point of view. Even from an athiest POV. It has attrative culture and traditions.

Which is why Islam is still the most fastest growing Religion in Asia and in the world in general islam gets most converts by every year with a huge margin