Official confirmation of UAV purchase by Bangladesh Air Force

[VikingRaider]

Remember, whores are whores, they always sell out...

Well whore is a harsh word , although I dislike her too much , but without any solid evidence it's not appropriate to call her whore . As if you can not prove a woman cheated on her husband , then according to Islamic sharia you will be under punishment ( Hudud/hodd ) , and that is either 40 or 80 lash can not remember exactly.

But surely there was a rumor that she had extra marital affair with Janjuja, and it was natural for Zia not to take her back because she was happy in cantonment when Zia needed her the most .

All I wanted to say that Bangabandhu saved her family for sure , but did not say that she slept with Janjua , as without evidence I do not defame any woman ( does not matter how much I hate her ) , because I consider it as very bad nature . Muslim and a gentleman should not do so .Mittha obobad deya ta bhalo kaj na bhai . Since we do not know what happened , so we should not make such remark .

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well whore is a harsh word , although I dislike her too much , but without any solid evidence it's not appropriate to call her whore . As if you can not prove a woman cheated on her husband , then according to Islamic sharia you will be under punishment ( Hudud/hodd ) , and that is either 40 or 80 lash can not remember exactly.

But surely there was a rumor that she had extra marital affair with Janjuja, and it was natural for Zia not to take her back because she was happy in cantonment when Zia needed her the most .

All I wanted to say that Bangabandhu saved her family for sure , but did not say that she slept with Janjua , as without evidence I do not defame any woman ( does not matter how much I hate her ) , because I consider it as very bad nature . Muslim and a gentleman should not do so .Mittha obobad deya ta bhalo kaj na bhai . Since we do not know what happened , so we should not make such remark .

Let’s just say you’re in 71, you take your wife from the cantonment and put her in a safe house and tell her to stay there, you go to war, she proceeds to go back to the cantonment, and then your buddy rescues her from the cantonment... definitely nothing short of a scandal. You don’t even need to accuse someone of cheating... I certainly don’t. But the shit I see as a med student, I would certainly not take a woman like that back.
She wanted the easy life of the cantonment, her husband was deemed traitor... what reason she had to be allowed to stay in the cantonment? You do the guesswork. Nothing to speculate or gossip about but just analyzing the simple facts that’s front of us... her intentions/actions are definitely not of a pious or righteous woman/person

 

[VikingRaider]

I certainly don’t. But the shit I see as a med student, I would certainly not take a woman like that back.

I also would not take her back when I am her husband/BF , no reason to take her back. But even if a wife committed adultery and her husband caught her directly , and bring her to sharia court , and wife directly refuse the accusation of Husband , the sharia court can not punish her as it demand witness .

But the husband can get a divorce from the court for sure . If husband can bring witness then the woman will get the death penalty for adultery; some say it's only lash as stoned death came from Hadith and lashing from Quran.

However Islamic law is too much strict on such matter. That's why only her husband has the right to accuse her for adultery , but others can not . That's why I said so .

However TBH again , Bangabandhu made a grave mistake by forcing Zia to take back her wife , as no one can compel anyone to take her wife back whom he doubt as unfaithful . I gave the reference of Islamic court and it's law , because even islamic law is can not take the side off wife and let husband to get a divorce . So Bangabandhu did not do the right thing . I feel bad for Zia that she was compelled to live his life with such woman whom he does not trust and accuse of adultery .

Unfortunately sometimes the behavior of Bangabandhu was a like village matbar and that is not a nature of a good administrator . That's why people say that he was a great leader , but lack the quality of an administrator . you really do not have the right to force any man to take back his wife whom he doubt for adultery .

her intentions/actions are definitely not of a pious or righteous woman/person

Agree , as I already say that she dress like a fashion model , love to show off , and that is too bad for a old day lady . On the other hand look at Hasina , other than haters all people will respect her because of her look only , let alone her good virtue and feelings and love for the people . She is the only person currently who truly has feelings for our people and she sincerely want to make people life happy with her good heart and good administrative quality .

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

I also would not take her back when I am her husband/BF , no reason to take her back. But even if a wife committed adultery and her husband caught her directly , and bring her to sharia court , and wife directly refuse the accusation of Husband , the sharia court can not punish her as it demand witness .

But the husband can get a divorce from the court for sure . If husband can bring witness then the woman will get the death penalty for adultery; some say it's only lash as stoned death came from Hadith and lashing from Quran.

However Islamic law is too much strict on such matter. That's why only her husband has the right to accuse her for adultery , but others can not . That's why I said so .

However TBH again , Bangabandhu made a grave mistake by forcing Zia to take back her wife , as no one can compel anyone to take her wife back whom he doubt as unfaithful . I gave the reference of Islamic court and it's law , because even islamic law is can not take the side off wife and let husband to get a divorce . So Bangabandhu did not do the right thing . I feel bad for Zia that she was compelled to live his life with such woman whom he does not trust and accuse of adultery .

Unfortunately sometimes the behavior of Bangabandhu was a like village matbar and that is not a nature of a good administrator . That's why people say that he was a great leader , but lack the quality of an administrator . you really do not have the right to force any man to take back his wife whom he doubt for adultery .


Agree , as I already say that she dress like a fashion model , love to show off , and that is too bad for a old day lady .

I find your posts very amusing, while you rightly opined the making false/uproven allegations of infidelity against a woman is prohibited in Islam, you made use of the word Boyfriend, which is what I find interesting.


As far as I know having a 'BF' (boyfriend) is haram in Islam as extramarital relations are prohibited.


Anyhow, just an observation, perhaps you weren't paying attention when typing the post out.

 

[VikingRaider]

you made use of the word Boyfriend, which is what I find interesting.

Why it is interesting ? Anyone can show you the law of Islam . And being a BF does not necessarily mean that you will accuse someone without evidence . Everything demand evidence and without evidence we should not call others wh.ore .

As far as I know having a 'BF' (boyfriend) is haram in Islam as extramarital relations are prohibited.

There are arguments . Nowadays most Hujurs are paid by westerns . Burkha is not Purdah, and love is not a sin . It's not necessary that you have to commit pre marital sex with your GF . So what's wrong with the relationshipI am unable to understand .
Beside it's personal choice , accusing someone for adultery is dangerous . You can not crate fitna . If you do not pray salat , you will be punished alone . if you will create fitna then a nation will suffer ! That's the reason spreading fitna is dangerous !

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Why it is interesting ? Anyone can show you the law of Islam . And being a BF does not necessarily mean that you will accuse someone without evidence . Everything demand evidence and without evidence we should not call others wh.ore .

No, you misunderstood the point I was trying to convey.

I meant that while you're quoting the Holy scripture and Hadith on here, you seem to have no problem with the concept of having extramarital relations i.e. having boyfriends/girlfriends.


This isn't my opinion of course, it is like I said earlier an observation.

 

[VikingRaider]

I meant that while you're quoting the Holy scripture and Hadith on here, you seem to have no problem with the concept of having extramarital relations i.e. having boyfriends/girlfriends.

As far I know, extramarital relationship is bf/gf for married people . I am talking bf/gf for unmarried people , not for married people, so it's not extramarital but premarital relationship!
@DalalErMaNodi

This isn't my opinion of course, it is like I said earlier an observation.

So your observation is slightly wrong ! Surely I hate any extramarital relationship. This is cheating when you are in a committed and sacred relationship like marriage !

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

As far I know, extramarital relationship is bf/gf for married people . I am talking bf/gf for unmarried people , not for married people, so it's not extramarital but premarital relationship!
@DalalErMaNodi


So your observation is slightly wrong !

Kind sir, my observations are just that my own interpretations and thoughts and they are at times far fetched and far removed from reality.


I admit the given scenario didn't warrant the use of the word 'Extramarital Relationship' but my point stands having BFs and GFs is prohibited in Islam irrespective of whether or not you're having sexual intercourse with them.


This is what the religious teachings say and I just needed to point it out.

 

[VikingRaider]

I admit the given scenario didn't warrant the use of the word 'Extramarital Relationship' but my point stands having BFs and GFs is prohibited in Islam irrespective of whether or not you're having sexual intercourse with them.


This is what the religious teachings say and I just needed to point it out.

Okay understand now . However we usually do not follow lots of orders from our scriptures , still we have feelings for them and show them as reference to counter grave errors.

 

[Tom-tom]

Why it is interesting ? Anyone can show you the law of Islam . And being a BF does not necessarily mean that you will accuse someone without evidence . Everything demand evidence and without evidence we should not call others wh.ore .


There are arguments . Nowadays most Hujurs are paid by westerns .Burkha is not Purdah, and love is not a sin . It's not necessary that you have to commit pre marital sex with your GF . So what's wrong with the relationshipI am unable to understand .
Beside it's personal choice , accusing someone for adultery is dangerous . You can not crate fitna . If you do not pray salat , you will be punished alone . if you will create fitna then a nation will suffer ! That's the reason spreading fitna is dangerous !

Well whore is a harsh word , although I dislike her too much , but without any solid evidence it's not appropriate to call her whore . As if you can not prove a woman cheated on her husband , then according to Islamic sharia you will be under punishment ( Hudud/hodd ) , and that is either 40 or 80 lash can not remember exactly.

But surely there was a rumor that she had extra marital affair with Janjuja, and it was natural for Zia not to take her back because she was happy in cantonment when Zia needed her the most .

All I wanted to say that Bangabandhu saved her family for sure , but did not say that she slept with Janjua , as without evidence I do not defame any woman ( does not matter how much I hate her ) , because I consider it as very bad nature . Muslim and a gentleman should not do so .Mittha obobad deya ta bhalo kaj na bhai . Since we do not know what happened , so we should not make such remark .

Who's janjuja I never heard of him was he on west pak side?

"Burkha is not Purdah, and love is not a sin "

Do you mean (burkha = bur'qah ) I don't know what is purdah? Please explain.

 

[bd_4_ever]

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Even Imran Sahab respects her

Imran: "Modi seems to have lost him mind. What to do, hmm..."

Hasina *a bit pissed*: "Just fire that missile already"

 

[Michael Corleone]

I also would not take her back when I am her husband/BF , no reason to take her back. But even if a wife committed adultery and her husband caught her directly , and bring her to sharia court , and wife directly refuse the accusation of Husband , the sharia court can not punish her as it demand witness .

But the husband can get a divorce from the court for sure . If husband can bring witness then the woman will get the death penalty for adultery; some say it's only lash as stoned death came from Hadith and lashing from Quran.

However Islamic law is too much strict on such matter. That's why only her husband has the right to accuse her for adultery , but others can not . That's why I said so .

However TBH again , Bangabandhu made a grave mistake by forcing Zia to take back her wife , as no one can compel anyone to take her wife back whom he doubt as unfaithful . I gave the reference of Islamic court and it's law , because even islamic law is can not take the side off wife and let husband to get a divorce . So Bangabandhu did not do the right thing . I feel bad for Zia that she was compelled to live his life with such woman whom he does not trust and accuse of adultery .

Unfortunately sometimes the behavior of Bangabandhu was a like village matbar and that is not a nature of a good administrator . That's why people say that he was a great leader , but lack the quality of an administrator . you really do not have the right to force any man to take back his wife whom he doubt for adultery .


Agree , as I already say that she dress like a fashion model , love to show off , and that is too bad for a old day lady . On the other hand look at Hasina , other than haters all people will respect her because of her look only , let alone her good virtue and feelings and love for the people . She is the only person currently who truly has feelings for our people and she sincerely want to make people life happy with her good heart and good administrative quality .

Dude you’re banging on about sharia and I would have celebrated it 3 years ago. Now I could care less about sharia law....
Bangabandhu was inexperienced at best, given the dilemma where even raped woman would have be shunned, he had no other choice. If I was in his place though, I would have let him divorce her and ershad could have married her for all I care.

 

[bluesky]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=672672486643790

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Wing loong - II

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Representational photo

It is only one unit. Is it enough for military operations?

 

[VikingRaider]

Who's janjuja I never heard of him was he on west pak side?

Yes , he was a a part of Pakistani army from west Pakistan .

https://blog.bdnews24.com/kaosar73/161951/comment-page-1


Read the full article thoroughly. Here is the magnetic part I just copied and paste!

""এর পক্ষে সবচেয়ে চমকপ্রদ প্রমাণ খালেদা নিজেই দিয়েছে।
খালেদা যখন ১৯৯১-৯৬ মেয়াদে প্রধানমন্ত্রী ছিল তখন পাকিস্তানি কর্নেল জানজুয়া মারা যায়, স্বাভাবিক মৃত্যু ছিল ওটা। সেই জানজুয়া যে খালেদাকে ১৯৭১ সালে ৯ মাস ভোগ করেছে। জানজুয়ার মৃত্যুর খবর শুনেই খালেদা শোক প্রকাশ করে, জানজুয়ার পরিবারের কাছে শোকবার্তা পাঠায়। যারা এই ব্যাপারে নিশ্চিত হতে চান তারা ঐ সময়ের জাতীয় পত্রিকাগুলি পড়ে নিতে পারেন।



পৃথিবীর কোনো মহিলাই তার ধর্ষকের মৃত্যুতে দুঃখ পেতে পারে না। কিন্তু খালেদা জানজুয়ার মৃত্যুতে দুঃখ পেয়েছে, শোক প্রকাশও করেছে। তার মানে, জানজুয়া তার দেহের উপর যে লীলা-খেলা চালিয়েছে তাকে খালেদা ধর্ষণ বলে মনে করে না। অর্থাৎ জানজুয়াদের আনন্দ দিতেই ১৯৭১ এ তাদের কাছে স্বেচ্ছায় গিয়েছিল খালেদা।
জানজুয়া পাকিস্তান আর্মি থেকে বহিষ্কৃত এক মধ্য পর্যায়ের অফিসার ছিল। তার মৃত্যুতে অন্য দেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রীর শোক প্রকাশ করার কোনো প্রচলিত রেওয়াজ নেই। তাই এটা ছিল খালেদার ব্যক্তিগত অনুভূতির প্রকাশ।""

And sending condolence as prime minister is against protocol as far I know . So there is a possibility of personal relationship .

Do you mean (burkha = bur'qah ) I don't know what is purdah? Please explain.

Yes it is Burqa (বোরকা/বোরখা) . And Purdah is পর্দা in bengali , the covering system of women imposed by modern western paid mullahs . In Quran many verses clearly said that only a chadar/orna is enough for covering system . And yes at best use it on your head . Mullahs translate it as use it on face . If you want I can post a nice bengali article link for your better understanding of real covering system and that is unlike what Mullahs propose nowadays.

 

[Tom-tom]

Yes , he was a a part of Pakistani army from west Pakistan .

https://blog.bdnews24.com/kaosar73/161951/comment-page-1


Read the full article thoroughly. Here is the magnetic part I just copied and paste!

""এর পক্ষে সবচেয়ে চমকপ্রদ প্রমাণ খালেদা নিজেই দিয়েছে।
খালেদা যখন ১৯৯১-৯৬ মেয়াদে প্রধানমন্ত্রী ছিল তখন পাকিস্তানি কর্নেল জানজুয়া মারা যায়, স্বাভাবিক মৃত্যু ছিল ওটা। সেই জানজুয়া যে খালেদাকে ১৯৭১ সালে ৯ মাস ভোগ করেছে। জানজুয়ার মৃত্যুর খবর শুনেই খালেদা শোক প্রকাশ করে, জানজুয়ার পরিবারের কাছে শোকবার্তা পাঠায়। যারা এই ব্যাপারে নিশ্চিত হতে চান তারা ঐ সময়ের জাতীয় পত্রিকাগুলি পড়ে নিতে পারেন।



পৃথিবীর কোনো মহিলাই তার ধর্ষকের মৃত্যুতে দুঃখ পেতে পারে না। কিন্তু খালেদা জানজুয়ার মৃত্যুতে দুঃখ পেয়েছে, শোক প্রকাশও করেছে। তার মানে, জানজুয়া তার দেহের উপর যে লীলা-খেলা চালিয়েছে তাকে খালেদা ধর্ষণ বলে মনে করে না। অর্থাৎ জানজুয়াদের আনন্দ দিতেই ১৯৭১ এ তাদের কাছে স্বেচ্ছায় গিয়েছিল খালেদা।
জানজুয়া পাকিস্তান আর্মি থেকে বহিষ্কৃত এক মধ্য পর্যায়ের অফিসার ছিল। তার মৃত্যুতে অন্য দেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রীর শোক প্রকাশ করার কোনো প্রচলিত রেওয়াজ নেই। তাই এটা ছিল খালেদার ব্যক্তিগত অনুভূতির প্রকাশ।""

And sending condolence as prime minister is against protocol as far I know . So there is a possibility of personal relationship .

This is a little off putting to say this but can't read bangla.