Obama's decision to visit India, not Pakistan, in the interest of all three countries: US!

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India has over a billion people just by sheer numbers it has importance. Soon to be the most populous country on Earth.

True,

But Pakistani diplomat have difficulty digesting the fact due to its sheer size and weight, India has more importance to world community than Pakistan.

They believe being the 'anti' India force in the region, makes them equal to India and "for sake of peace of in the region, world should treat them equally."

But that is not true.

India more important than Pakistan, says US official - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

 

[suresh1773]

India has over a billion people just by sheer numbers it has importance. Soon to be the most populous country on Earth.

Apples & Oranges
What has Obama's visit go to do with India's population figures,Well I think it must be the security issue,the visit of any foreign dignitory to Pakistan is not dictated by Indian population figures
In the past American Presidents have visited Pakistan & so American Astronaut Neil Armstrong in the 1960's.
I correctly remember,one American president asking a minister from a African country.Ask what u can do for America & not the other way around.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Good decision on his part not to come. I can't say I am not disappointed, because that would be lying but I do think it is in the interests of Pakistan that he didn't come in the end. Can't be arsed with the level of protection required for a US President.

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agrred .. secuity will be issue.
but can you ans following ,
but what pak gain or lost at state level due to said visit ?
how it will help or degrade GOP policy ?
is secuirty is only reason he is not visting or any other two which are top 3 reason due to which he is not coming?
what is view of GOP wrt obama ONLY india visit?

True,

But Pakistani diplomat have difficulty digesting the fact due to its sheer size and weight, India has more importance to world community than Pakistan.

They believe being the 'anti' India force in the region, makes them equal to India and "for sake of peace of in the region, world should treat them equally."

But that is not true.

India more important than Pakistan, says US official - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

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it was a time pak was more im than india till 9/11
when we wee shouting from himalaya top about terrrisam non sate actor but USA was folowing gandhi policy
bura mat suna bura mat dekaho bur amat kaho to keep usa intreset with pak
so now tide has ben turing when they hit with same tsunami

 

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[Abu Zolfiqar]

there's nothing to talk about with Obama so it would be a waste of time.....COAS already met with Sec. Def CENTCOM and other military brass there in DC & Kerry was already received here not long ago.

Obama's a lame duck president in his 2nd term with a House and Congress that are Republican so I dont see why we shouldnt be happy....traditionally we've never had that close relations w/US when democraps were in power there so why waste time

my simple take on it

Secondly, the US knows that the only agenda point that Pakistan would have is the reiteration of the Kashmir issue which is dead.

according to some delusions indians - sure, maybe!

 

[OrionHunter]

Secondly, the US knows that the only agenda point that Pakistan would have is the reiteration of the Kashmir issue which is dead.

according to some delusions indians - sure, maybe!

Nope! Not delusions of Indians, but it's a fact put forth by not only America but the whole world too. The UN has also said it is nonenforceable and is a dead issue.

As though solving the Kashmir 'dispute' (on Pakistan's terms) will make it a super power! So why are you guys so desperate? Will it put more food on the table for the poor? Will it magically transform Pakistan into the fastest growing economy? Will it eradicate poverty? What's in it for Pakistan? Nix! So move on.....

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Nope! Not delusions of Indians, but it's a fact put forth by not only America but the whole world too. The UN has also said it is nonenforceable and is a dead issue.

it's still very much on the agenda and not something you can wish away.....you'll have to face up to it sooner or later but anyways lets agree to disagree

As though solving the Kashmir 'dispute' (on Pakistan's terms) will make it a super power! So why are you guys so desperate? Will it put more food on the table for the poor? Will it magically transform Pakistan into the fastest growing economy? Will it eradicate poverty? What's in it for Pakistan? Nix! So move on.....

Not necessarily but it'll put closure to what is unfinished business since '47 when both countries were born.

On poverty it seems we BOTH have a ways to go. A holier than thou attitude which some of you funny looking keyboard jingoists resort to is nothing but a farce.

anywaz

 

[vsdave2302]

@Norwegian

Why must every US President visit to India be preceded by or followed by a visit to Pakistan? Is there a protocol for this to happen?

Exactly, but Pakistan insist on that.

 

[Paksanity]

I have this hunch that Obama will appear unannounced in Pakistan. Maybe for few hours. Maybe to visit Peshawar APS. For the sake of PR. Just a hunch.

It maybe a bad thing actually. Better not to visit at all.

 

[Dalit]

And also probably the fact that Pakistan isn't as important where the volume of trade is concerned what with a paltry $6 billion to show which is peanuts. In contrast Indo-American trade is at present $100 billion slated to reach $500 billion by 2020.

Secondly, the US knows that the only agenda point that Pakistan would have is the reiteration of the Kashmir issue which is dead. Thirdly, the majority of Pakistanis hate America and what it stands for. So during the visit you'd have shills like General Hafiz Saeed and gang organising massive anti-American protests which would be rather embarrassing.

So visiting Pakistan is of no use to man or beast. It's just a waste of time!

If Pakistan is such a waste of time why does your buddy US provide aid to us? Why would America waste its taxpayers money on "deceitful" and "hateful" Pakistanis? If Pakistan is such a waste of time why use our supply routes? You talk crap, but that is expected from an Indian.

As for Obama screw him. He isn't welcome anyway. Let him go to India whilst his troops are fed through our soil in Afghanistan.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I have this hunch that Obama will appear unannounced in Pakistan. Maybe for few hours. Maybe to visit Peshawar APS. For the sake of PR. Just a hunch.

It maybe a bad thing actually. Better not to visit at all.

highly doubtful....surprise visit would only happen in China or Russia or Canada. In South Asia or Middle East the Secret Service has to scout out routes, coordinate with station chiefs and ambassados, coordinate with governments etc.

Peshawar is one of the last places he'd be advised to go to.....i dont think the locals would like the idea either

he's in his second term so PR for him doesnt matter at all...he's a lame duck, but then again he's a democrat so what can you expect

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Frankly I dont see any issue here, just that the media houses 're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
My guess is Obama is not visiting Pak due to security reasons. Thats all!

It's related to Indo-pak hyphenation that Pakistan had insisted on in the past, that India and Pak should be treated equal at all times. That hyphenation was a core of Pakistan's strategy and they insisted it everywhere. India on the other hand always insisted US not to treat the two countries equally ( we are in a different league coz we are bigger, more powerful etc.). Fact is US did maintain that hyphenation for several decades, now it's irrevocably broken.

 

[Paksanity]

US presidents have been visiting places like Iraq like that. Unannounced visit is part of that security arrangement. Hence the unannounced. The thing I won't like this is, it puts Pakistan in the same league as of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc. I don't like that.

 

[Dalit]

US presidents have been visiting places like Iraq like that. Unannounced visit is part of that security arrangement. Hence the unannounced. The thing I won't like this is, it puts Pakistan in the same league as of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc. I don't like that.

Well said. It's just a bogus excuse. Anyhow, we shouldn't care. Our primary ally is China. You know what Kissinger once said about his own country. "To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal."

 

[13 komaun]

Its not Obama but U.S $$ which is required in Pak plus it would be a shame for Pakistan to invite Obama while his forces killed Pak soldiers and bomb civilians.