Obama is bluffing on Iran

[twilight]

Doubtless many Western soldiers who were killed liberating Iraq and Afghanistan from tyrants were Zionists. Does that make you feel better?

nope ... if all of them get kill , maybe I would feel better but , less than 5000 soldiers compare more than 1.5 Muslims casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan , are nothing ...

What sort of peace do you believe in, then?

as I said , my English isn't in good , especially to explain such great things , even though , you wouldn't understand it ....

A tyranny is a regime noted for its undue harshness: willful use of power or abuse of authority. This is what made Americans rebel against the rule of King George III, as related with a long list of grievances in our Declaration of Independence. I don't think you'll find that either the U.S. or Israel fit the bill. But the regime of the Iranian mullahs does.

playing with words are easy task ....

another thing , you live in USA ( and you are a Zionist as well !! ) and I live in Iran ( and I am a Muslim ) , this is logic that you call our Government " tyranny" and I call American regime a " tyranny " ...

after all , we were in this region , we are in this region and we will be in this region but USA and Zionist are invaders and they want control this region by force , by destroying who are against them , and for doing this , they using military power , propaganda power and every thing that they can use it .... .

well , let finish this useless discuss , you are a Zionist and I am a Muslim , you can't change my ideas with your words and I can't change your ideas as well ... IMO True Muslims and True Zionist can't accept eachother ideas ( simply because their idea are opposite )

 

[T-Rex]

Oh, shut up. Pakistan has terrorism problem because of people with your kind of ideology. Let's face the truth here and be open. Saudi Arabia is friend with west that is killing our people. You have no problem with that. You have also no problem with Sauds being installed by British to hold on the most sacred of Muslim places. You stink of hypocrisy. The guy admitted he did not know much and knows now. You on the other hand are outright lying and showing your hate mongering for Shias with your sectarian ideas and stupid concepts about Iran. You are the ignorant here. Pakistan's image is not only down the drain in Iran, but also everywhere you go on planet because of people like you. When we did not have you prior to Afghan fiasco, Pakistan was much more respected and well received. So stop playing like we do not know you and your ideology. It is because of people like you that Muslims can not unite. On every front you and Saudi Arabia is cooperating with Americans to save the petrodollar recycling and Saudi Arabia even has to out source its defense to US. The most shameful thing a Muslim can do.

As for Iran, some audio lectures by Ahmdad Deedat who was much more knowledgeable than all of your likes combined is due here and then compare Iran with your corrupt Sauds who are always standing against Muslims and unity of Islam:

I just watched the entire series and it's simply amazing. Ahmad Deedat has rightly pointed out the false ego of the Sunnis, their arrogance, ignorance coupled with hatred and prejudice. Sunnis make up 90% of the world's Muslim population, so whatever is wrong with the Muslim world these Sunnis have to take the responsibility for that. Instead of unity most of the Sunni religious leaders encourage division among the ranks of the Muslims and Bin Laden and his goons were just a few of them.

 

[Solomon2]

Yes, but the point is that if one of them drives recklessly and gets into a jam, the other will have no choice but to bail him out.

That's not the situation here. At the AIPAC conference Obama declared to us, "I have Israel's back". That's his choice, that's not no choice.

 

[Developereo]

That's not the situation here. At the AIPAC conference Obama declared to us, "I have Israel's back". That's his choice, that's not no choice.

Come, now!

If Israel is under attack and asks for American help, do you really think any American president will have the option to refuse, regardless of who started the war?

 

[lem34]

Come, now!

If Israel is under attack and asks for American help, do you really think any American president will have the option to refuse, regardless of who started the war?

I think the only argument is if ask is the right word. I think the word order is prob more likely

 

[Solomon2]

If Israel is under attack and asks for American help, do you really think any American president will have the option to refuse -

No doubt, no doubt. But that's not all that motivates Obama, I guess. Do you remember, before he was elected, his vow to intervene in Pakistan against Al Qaeda, if necessary without the acquiescence of Pakistan's government? All the other candidates criticized him, yet he did just that last year to kill OBL.

Here's an interview with then-candidate-for-Senator Obama back in 2004: link (H/T: JG) Note that Israel is not mentioned but Obama STILL made it clear he was in favor of missile strikes on Iran.

I recall that when AIPAC delegates (including me) visited Capitol Hill Democratic senators and congressmen went out of their way to thank us, rather than having us thank them. I thought that a bit odd but reading this article clears things up: due to our lobbying political support for U.S. military action (if necessary) against the mullahs of Iran is assured; it's already something Obama wants to do, and has wanted for some time.

 

[Tesla1000]

Of course Mr Osamba s lying .That;s what Zionist controlled Us politicians are paid and "ordered" to do!!haha

 

[Developereo]

due to our lobbying political support for U.S. military action (if necessary) against the mullahs of Iran is assured; it's already something Obama wants to do, and has wanted for some time.

We are in agreement.

The US stance on Iran is primarily due to pro-Israeli pressure. Iran is not a threat to the US itself. I don't know if they have done anything against the US since the revolution (and possibly the Beirut bombings of 1983).

The only point I am making is that, if Israel feels the US needs a little prodding, they may provide the catalyst themselves. Obama is not as trigger-happy on Iran as Israel might wish. While he can be confident that the domestic media would exonerate, even adulate, him, the fact is that the US military is less than enthusiastic.

 

[IbnAlwaled]

I said before and ill say it again. NO country is going to attack Iran. But they will choke the Iranians with sanctions just like they did to Iraq in 1990's.

 

[Serpentine]

I said before and ill say it again. NO country is going to attack Iran. But they will choke the Iranians with sanctions just like they did to Iraq in 1990's.

They almost destroyed whole Iraqi army and infrastructures in Persian Gulf war.They banned Iraqi oil exports and started that cruel oil for food program.Iraq had 2 bloody wars,one with Iran and other with U.S and other western countries.So it was not just sanctions that broke Iraq.They were broken after the American attack.

 

[lem34]

economic sanctions rarely work. The sanctioned always find someone to transact business with