Obama is bluffing on Iran

[Malik Alashter]

What do you guys smoke?

cari spicy

 

[Malik Alashter]

I have lost my respect for many of Indians on this forum already, not because of this particular person, but because many Indians are like him. Many of them have no dignity and national pride IMHO. I always used to think of India as a civilized independent nation and honestly speaking I didn't have a positive opinion about Pakistan, because I thought the majority of people were extremists and fundamentalists. now thanks to PDF the situation is completely the opposite and I respect the Pakistani people very much and have lost my respect for India as a proud independent nation.

Same here bro.

So you admit that behind that facade of friendship, Iran has been a pro-india anti-Pakistan country, quite opposite to the principle taught!

Another indian copy.

 

[Solomon2]

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

As Jews throughout the world and my family in particular have learned, better a war that costs a hundred thousand lives than "peace" under a tyrant who slays millions.

And how many millions of refugees would fulfill israel's fantasy?

Ask the Israelis. I'm a Zionist, not an Israeli.

 

[Arian]

Ask the Israelis. I'm a Zionist, not an Israeli.

Just out of curiosity Solomon, If you're a Zionist, why don't you return to Israel?

 

[Solomon2]

Just out of curiosity Solomon, If you're a Zionist, why don't you return to Israel?

I'm an American. I'm a Jew. I believe in Israel. It isn't much different, I guess, than an American of French descent being enthusiastic about France. And there are many, many people who love France who lack any French blood at all, who visit France only occasionally if it all without any immediate plans to move there.

Just as many Americans of French and British descent campaigned in WWII for America to stand against Hitler and Japan, so too do Jews campaign for America to stand by Israel and the Arabs to oppose the empire-building terror-loving mullahs of Iran. And because the mullahs run a destructive tyranny that has expressed great hatred for the U.S., it is in America's interests to do so.

 

[BATMAN]

We have in Pakistan goons that love Saudi Arabia and goons that love Iran, both are a problem and both should be dealt with harshly as they are both doing the same thing and that is working to sell out Pakistan.

How come working in Saudi Arabia is equal to selling Pakistan?

If Israel hire more Pakistanis, it is more dear to me than Iran or Saudi Arabia.

If Iran hire more Pakistanis than it is more dear to me than any one who hire less Pakistanis.

 

[Solomon2]

If Israel hire more Pakistanis, it is more dear to me than Iran or Saudi Arabia.

It could happen. Israel trades a billion dollars a year with Muslim Azerbaijan. That must keep a lot of Azerbaijanis employed.

 

[BATMAN]

It could happen. Israel trades a billion dollars a year with Muslim Azerbaijan. That must keep a lot of Azerbaijanis employed.

What does Israeli exports to Azerbaijan trade has to do with the discussion?

This $1 billion is your imaginary figure !

 

[Solomon2]

What does Israeli exports to Azerbaijan trade has to do with the discussion? This $1 billion is your imaginary figure !

Umm, no, I spoke to Azerbaijan's ambassador at the AIPAC conference. A billion dollars is his figure. Israel and Azerbaijan just signed an agreement for the Azeris to buy weapons for $1.6 billion: link. I would be very surprised if enterprising Israelis did not find many millions of dollars' worth of Azeri goods to buy as well.

 

[BATMAN]

Umm, no, I spoke to Azerbaijan's ambassador at the AIPAC conference. A billion dollars is his figure. Israel and Azerbaijan just signed an agreement for the Azeris to buy weapons for $1.6 billion: link. I would be very surprised if enterprising Israelis did not find many millions of dollars' worth of Azeri goods to buy as well.

So.. how does it co-relates to the discussion?

 

[Arian]

I'm an American. I'm a Jew. I believe in Israel. It isn't much different, I guess, than an American of French descent being enthusiastic about France. And there are many, many people who love France who lack any French blood at all, who visit France only occasionally if it all without any immediate plans to move there.

Just as many Americans of French and British descent campaigned in WWII for America to stand against Hitler and Japan, so too do Jews campaign for America to stand by Israel and the Arabs to oppose the empire-building terror-loving mullahs of Iran. And because the mullahs run a destructive tyranny that has expressed great hatred for the U.S., it is in America's interests to do so.

The second paragraph is obviously absurd and nonsense, so it doesn't deserve my time that I respond back to it.
About the first paragraph, let's check some points to see if I've understood them rightly or not. Wikipedia defines Zionism as follows:

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be liberated from anti-Semitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that has occurred in other societies.

So, how come that you believe in Zionism and you are a Jew, but you don't wanna return to Israel? If you believe in Zionism and you're a Jew, then by your own ideology, as the definition tells us, you, as a Jew, should return to Israel. Why you're still in the states then? That sounds like a contradiction to me.

 

[T-Rex]

As Jews throughout the world and my family in particular have learned, better a war that costs a hundred thousand lives than "peace" under a tyrant who slays millions.

Ask the Israelis. I'm a Zionist, not an Israeli.

Okay, how many millions of Palestinian refugees would fulfill the fantasy of the zionazis like you?

 

[twilight]

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So, how come that you believe in Zionism and you are a Jew, but you don't wanna return to Israel? If you believe in Zionism and you're a Jew, then by your own ideology, as the definition tells us, you, as a Jew, should return to Israel. Why you're still in the states then? That sounds like a contradiction to me.

This simple , some of them should stand in USA and control those simple Americans ....

 

[Solomon2]

The second paragraph is obviously absurd and nonsense, so it doesn't deserve my time that I respond back to it.

The second paragraph is the only one on-topic - as BATMAN pointed out, we're drifting off-topic.

Okay, how many millions of Palestinian refugees would fulfill the fantasy of the zionazis like you?

Just because you are bloodthirsty doesn't mean I am.

 

[twilight]

As Jews throughout the world and my family in particular have learned, better a war that costs a hundred thousand lives than "peace" under a tyrant who slays millions.

Ask the Israelis. I'm a Zionist, not an Israeli.

yeah , maybe this is true ( well , I really don't belive in this ) but the problem is that Muslims are the cost of your peace ... maybe if Zionist was the cost of peace , I would accept your silly ideas ....