Now westerners showed sympothy for Afghan women under taliban rule. They forgot how they criticized China when China did the opposite to Uyghur women

[GumNaam]

Few people know Xingjiang（and other muslim regions in China) also went through a period of "Afghan" time. Xingjiang was once Afghanaized. Especially in the rural regions. Men had beard and women wore Burqa. Government controlled cities. Religion extremists controlled rural regions. Xingjiang was once pretty similiar to Afghan.

Things changed when Chinese government decided to eliminate religion extremism. The government forced Uyghur women to take off the Burqa and men to shave beard. Which is totally opposite to what Taliban is doing. Shouldn't China win some applause from west. No. So far I have never seen any media, any feminism organization or person said one good word to China. On the contrary, the west defined what China did as "genocide". How the west defines what Taliban did? "Tradtion protection"? If China was wrong, how come the opposite is also wrong?

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then they wonder why the western media is fast becoming irrelevant...

 

[redtom]

that went wooosh over my head ..see my advise on post #3

no not the bear shaving thing ...don't try to shave a bear ...it's dangerous

I think the point is to let people practice their religious beliefs

 

[dbc]

Muslim world changed. Uyghurs as muslims followed the change.
Why US waged the Afghan war? It is just several terrorists who learned to drive planes to hit some buildings.

religious radicals have existed ...well since religion has existed - it's nothing new. The US invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban refused to hand over OBL. Did Uyghurs kill thousands of Chinese? How many people have died in Uyghur terror attacks?

 

[kankan326]

religious radicals have existed ...well since religion has existed - it's nothing new. The US invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban refused to hand over OBL. Did Uyghurs kill thousands of Chinese? How many people have died in Uyghur terror attacks?

I know religious radicals have existed for long. But it had never been globally spread as today. US should also be responsible for this.

Reasons: 1, US allies with countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Made them too rich. 2, US used terrorists as a weapon to weaken its rivals.

Yes. Thousands of Chinese were killed by Uyghur terrorists in recent decades. Rumor said the 7.5 incident alone killed more 1 thousand. Government casualties number is 156. But we don't believe it.

Edit: Even OBL was killed by US. It didn't change anything.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I think the point is to let people practice their religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs unmolested.
So I'm afraid China, Taliban and some European nations are wrong.

If you support extremists forcing women to wear burkas in the guise of religion then you are no better than the Taliban.

 

[beijingwalker]

Most central Asian Turkic countries are more like Kazakhstan, not Afghanistan. they have the same religion but different cultures.

Streets in Kazakhstan

 

[Beast]

you should not comment on things you do not understand.

Is bear shaving a Chinese sport? will it feature in the next olympics?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1067580589837041664

You are comparing animal with a human?

You seem to confuse Culture with Religion. They are two different things.

Those extreme slander traditional culture as haram and ask follower to abandon it. Asking follower to follow their extreme view only.

These extremist are destroying traditional culture when those local culture didn't contradict with Islam. They only want to impose their extreme view on others.

 

[dbc]

If you support extremists forcing women to wear burkas in the guise of religion then you are no better than the Taliban.

When did I support the use of force? I think you need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. I said individuals should be free to practice their faith as long as such practices do not impinge on other peoples rights or disrupt society.

shnt up

what's the matter? You can't formulate a sentence to express your opinion on the topic being discussed?

 

[dbc]

I know religious radicals have existed for long. But it had never been globally spread as today. US should also be responsible for this.

Not really, religions such as Christianity and Islam was often forcefully spread across the globe in entire continents South America, Asia, Europe and Africa. There have been six holy crusade the first in 1095 AD.

Silly of you to blame the US for middle eastern wealth. We contributed in making Japan, Taiwan, S Korea and China wealthy as well - is that wrong?

Yes, the US supported the Mujahideen in its war against the Soviet Union. Our ally and now frenemy Pakistan suddenly found itself with a hostile superpower (USSR) on the west and a lifelong foe India to the east. What did you expect the US to do?

You should know using the Afghan Mujahideen was Pakistan's idea.

The ISI, Pakistan’s intelligence service, provided the leadership, tactics, and strategy for the mujahideen. “I know you all think this was ‘Charlie Wilson’s War,’ but it wasn’t,” Riedel said, “It was Zia-ul-Haq’s.” Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, the sixth president of Pakistan, was described by Riedel as a fervent, true believer of Islam. Zia trained and armed the mujahideen because of his conviction that it was “every Muslim’s duty to fight the godless, atheist, Communist menace and to drive it out of Afghanistan. Riedel: The war against the Soviets in Afghanistan was run by Zia, not by us foreignpolicy.com

 

[zectech]

Muslim world changed. Uyghurs as muslims followed the change.
Why US waged the Afghan war? It is just several terrorists who learned to drive planes to hit some buildings.

I know religious radicals have existed for long. But it had never been globally spread as today. US should also be responsible for this.

Reasons: 1, US allies with countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Made them too rich. 2, US used terrorists as a weapon to weaken its rivals.

Yes. Thousands of Chinese were killed by Uyghur terrorists in recent decades. Rumor said the 7.5 incident alone killed more 1 thousand. Government casualties number is 156. But we don't believe it.

Edit: Even OBL was killed by US. It didn't change anything.

You are comparing animal with a human?

Those extreme slander traditional culture as haram and ask follower to abandon it. Asking follower to follow their extreme view only.

These extremist are destroying traditional culture when those local culture didn't contradict with Islam. They only want to impose their extreme view on others.

These are reactionary regards towards Islam and Afghanistan.

Unless you know the facts, you are merely reacting to CNN and Faux News and Washington lies believing the lies to be true.

Here are the facts.

(1) History of Afghanistan - usa involvement

Afghanistan War Exposed: An Imperial Conspiracy (2020)

37 minutes | Abby Martin covers the whole truth about the Afghanistan War, from the CIA construct of the 80's through 2020's senseless stalemate. Two decades, three administrations, tens of thousands of lives...

www.filmsforaction.org

Explains how usa armed the conservatives against the socialists.

(2) 9/11 was an inside job, terrorism is Washington origin

(3) Afghans chose the Taliban in part to protect the kids from warlords. So the Taliban is more liberal and human rights than the Northern Alliance and other NATO ally freaks.

(4) Omar, leader of Afghanistan, was certain that OBL was not involved in 9/11, as OBL said that he was innocent.

9/11: A Conspiracy Theory | The Corbett Report

www.corbettreport.com

So everything you are saying based on Western lies in untrue. The statements are reactionary. You are reacting to lies of Washington, and inventing some pseudo-reality in reaction to Washington lies.

What is true is Xinjiang had no radical "Islamic" terrorism, that was imported from NATO to China to stir up trouble. usa tried to Afghanistan the Uighurs and failed. usa was so pissed about losing that Washington invented lies about a "genocide".

China's proposed solution to Afghanistan is the Uighur solution. Flood the area with jobs, opportunity, investment to prevent extremism from developing.

usa solution to Afghanistan is the same as usa Uighur solution. Impoverish the area with boycotts to get the masses of Muslims so suffering with poverty that extremism develops and usa policy goals of endless wars and conflict continues. And if extremism does not develop, Washington starts a new cia al qaeda mujahedin to fight the Russians or other Washington enemy, then pretend to be the victim.

 

[Globenim]

I think the point is to let people practice their religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs unmolested.
So I'm afraid China, Taliban and some European nations are wrong.

Said the American troll, whos regime and regimes propaganda mouthpieces and million dollar shill armies are touting out of every orifice about "islamic oppression" and "barbaric" and "backward practices", every time Americans elites want to justify massmurdering and opressing Muslims in a foreign country for economic and strategic gains or "just" justify its efforts to undermine and destabilize free foreign countries and their governments.

Do Americans still believe their strategy to preempt and deflect criticism and calls against American injustice and repression, with constant hypocrite and false preaching about others from a fake moral highground, just for the a sake of shouting out their victims, remains a viable stragety in this day and age or do you keep going with this script just to comfort yourself?

 

[dbc]

Said the American whos regime and regiomes propaganda mouth pieces and million dollar shill armies are drumming up "islamic oppression" talk everytime Americans want to justify murdering Muslims for economic and strategic reasons.

You speak as if I am singlehandedly responsible for US foreign policy over the last 100 years.
If I was the Emperor of the US of A, I'd probably mind my own backyard and let the world do its thing.