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‘Not just about receiving a salary’: Why some adults in China have become ‘full-time’ children​

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Money Mind talks to three Chinese youths about the realities of the job market: (from left) vlogger Zhang Jiayi, Beijing resident Qiu Qiu and social enterprise co-founder Will Wang.


13 Aug 2023 06:00AM(Updated: 13 Aug 2023 07:27AM)


HANGZHOU: Since the start of the year, vlogger Zhang Jiayi’s typical working day has looked like this: Talking morning walks with her parents, accompanying them to the market for groceries, preparing lunch, then taking a nap before tending to other chores.

The 31-year-old is a “full-time daughter”, a concept — and social media hashtag — that has surfaced as China’s youth unemployment in cities hits record levels.

Her parents pay her 8,000 yuan (S$1,500) a month. It is 20 per cent less than what graduates in her city of Hangzhou can expect, said Zhang, who used to sell clothes until the business succumbed to the pandemic.

The work of a full-time child, however, “isn’t just about receiving a salary or any form of compensation from parents”, she added. “It’s about genuinely enjoying the process of being with your parents and wanting to be there for them.”

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Zhang Jiayi vlogging while taking her parents out for a walk.

That said, her salary from them is “well deserved”, she told the programme Money Mind in its special on youth unemployment in China.

Unemployment among 16- to 24-year-olds in China’s urban areas rose to 21.3 per cent in June, compared with 4.1 per cent among those aged 25 to 59, according to China’s National Bureau of Statistics.
As a new cohort of 11.6 million graduates join the workforce this summer, the figure could rise further.

China’s shaky economic recovery after lengthy pandemic lockdowns is partly to blame for the plight of its youth, although there are other reasons too, experts said.

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Tertiary education enrolment increased from 30 per cent in 2012 to nearly 60 per cent last year, official figures show.

“They’re being educated and brought up for high-end jobs — tech jobs or jobs that require higher education,” said Nancy Qian, the James J O’Connor Professor of Managerial Economics and Decision Sciences at Northwestern University in the United States.

The economic slowdown means those jobs are “shorter and shorter in supply”.

Zhu Hong, a professor of marketing and e-commerce at Nanjing University’s business school, said: “Our industrial structure hasn’t yet completed the shift from labour-intensive and low-end to high value-added technology or high-level service industries.”

As a result, “many graduates”, including master’s degree holders, are working as ride-hailing drivers and food delivery workers, she cited.

Zhu has even come across graduates from prestigious schools like Tsinghua University applying for sanitation jobs that “typically require only a high school or junior high school education”.

Another reason for the unemployment level is the tighter regulations, since 2021, on several sectors that are major employers of youths, said Bernard Aw, chief economist for Asia Pacific at credit insurer Coface.

These include the real estate, financial and private education sectors, and the tightening has meant a decline in jobs available to youths, he said.

The current situation prompted Chinese President Xi Jinping to exhort youths to be willing to “eat bitterness”, as quoted in the official People’s Daily newspaper on Youth Day in May.
Money Mind found out how three Chinese youths are navigating the realities of the job market.

FULL-TIME CHILD: ‘UNFAMILIAR TERRITORY’ AT FIRST

As with any other job, there has been a learning curve for Zhang in being a full-time child. In the beginning, she said, tasks such as cooking, driving and grocery shopping were “completely unfamiliar territory”.

“I couldn’t even distinguish between different types of vegetables at home,” she shared. But now that she has got the hang of it, “these tasks aren’t as difficult as I’d imagined”, she said.

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Zhang vlogging at home with her parents.

Not all full-time children take up the role because of unemployment, said Zhu.

Some of them return home to take a break from big cities “where salaries are low, work is exhausting, (their) health is deteriorating, commutes are long and there’s no visible future”.

Others do it because they have some financial buffer as well as high expectations for a job.

Some youths from cities have grandparents who own valuable real estate — courtesy of privatisation reforms in the 1990s — that could be worth “a small fortune, like half a million dollars (or) a million dollars in the city centre”, said Qian.

“Knowing you have that … also reduces the pressure to take jobs that you find personally not ideal.”

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At a job fair in China.

Young people nowadays want a “reasonable income” but do not want to work overtime or their workload to be too heavy, said Li Zhuofei, a graduate of the Gengdan Institute of Beijing University of Technology.

But “most companies”, including state-owned enterprises, private and foreign firms, require overtime work, often without providing overtime pay, he said.

Experts say there are risks should youths remain full-time children for more than a few years.

“After a long period of isolation from the workplace and society, when the economy improves and they have the opportunity to re-enter the workforce, would they have lost the motivation … owing to the mentality of ‘lying flat’?” Zhu said.

She was referring to the “bai lan” phenomenon: Disillusioned youths getting out of China’s rat race and doing the bare minimum to get by. Its equivalent documented in other societies is “quiet quitting”.

For now, Zhang’s family is “very supportive” of her decision, she said. “Even if I earn less money, they believe that what I gain emotionally is more important.”

RURAL OPPORTUNITIES?​

In rural Xiangxi, Hunan province, Will Wang has found meaningful work in poverty alleviation and rural revitalisation for nearly six years.

Wang, who is from Shanghai, earned a master’s in international relations at New York University in the US. His social enterprise, Beyond the City, bridges the rural-urban divide by organising field study trips for both urban students and rural youths.

On trips to rural areas, urbanites live with local households and learn about ecology, traditional crafts and other topics from them. Rural youths, on the other hand, learn about the opportunities and challenges of urban migration on trips to cities.

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Will Wang (standing, wearing black tee) in Xiangxi.

While rural-urban migration slowed in China in the years before COVID-19, it declined in 2020 for the first time. That year, 10.1 million people returned to the countryside, 1.6 million more than in 2019.

More youths are willing to consider rural living because the government has improved infrastructure in the countryside — there is a 5G network in Xiangxi — and some do not want a fast-paced city lifestyle, said Wang.

The cost of living is also lower in the countryside, while the income “can be comparable”, he added.

Zhu, however, believes the younger generation would consider moving to the countryside only under certain circumstances.

“If the cost of living in the city is high and they can’t find jobs, in such a situation, instead of ‘lying flat’ or ‘bai lan’ or relying on their parents … it could be considered,” she said.

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Would more Chinese youths be willing to live in the countryside?

More of them would still prefer city living, she reckoned. “It aligns with their desire for social interaction, freedom and (vibrancy).”

PERFORMING ARTS DREAM, DATA ANALYSIS JOB

As for Beijing resident Qiu Qiu, she dreamed of working in the performing arts after graduating this year with a master’s in literature of theatre, film and television.

She sent dozens of job applications to television stations and media companies, even internet giants. But there was nary a response. Most of her resumes “seemed to sink into the abyss”, she described.

Qiu cast her net wider and managed to clinch a data analysis role in the human resources industry last month. It pays 14,000 yuan a month but “deviates quite a bit” from her field of study, she acknowledged.

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Beijing resident Qiu Qiu has put her performing arts dreams on hold.

It is important, however, to try different opportunities and be open to career advice dished out during the interview process, she said. “The key is to take the first step and engage with various job opportunities in society.”

Experts say there are gaps to bridge, for example between the jobs available and what youths aspire to and between youths’ salary expectations and what companies are willing to offer.

There are job openings waiting to be filled, such as technical and front-line positions in manufacturing, said Nina Wu, a human resources supervisor. These may not be the jobs, however, that “educated elite youth want”, noted Qian.

The typical salary for entry-level factory positions is around 2,000 to 4,000 yuan a month but could go up to 7,000 to 8,000 yuan in cities like Shenzhen, said Wu.

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Many graduates in China, not as many jobs matching their expectations.

Some advanced degree holders may have to look at similar salaries. Qian knows a graduate from one of China’s top five law schools who is looking for work in Shanghai, one of the country’s costliest cities, but faces monthly wages of between 3,000 and 7,000 yuan.

Schools may need to develop programmes and train their students for “priority sectors” such as advanced manufacturing, semiconductors, electric vehicles and new energy sources, said Aw.

Although the Chinese economy is still recovering from COVID-19 measures, and youth unemployment could moderate in the coming years, it will remain at higher levels than a decade ago, reckoned Qian.
“We should be looking at that as a generational problem,” she said.

 
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‘Not just about receiving a salary’: Why some adults in China have become ‘full-time’ children​

mm_china_youth_unemployment_13_main_image_option.jpg

Money Mind talks to three Chinese youths about the realities of the job market: (from left) vlogger Zhang Jiayi, Beijing resident Qiu Qiu and social enterprise co-founder Will Wang.


13 Aug 2023 06:00AM(Updated: 13 Aug 2023 07:27AM)


HANGZHOU: Since the start of the year, vlogger Zhang Jiayi’s typical working day has looked like this: Talking morning walks with her parents, accompanying them to the market for groceries, preparing lunch, then taking a nap before tending to other chores.

The 31-year-old is a “full-time daughter”, a concept — and social media hashtag — that has surfaced as China’s youth unemployment in cities hits record levels.

Her parents pay her 8,000 yuan (S$1,500) a month. It is 20 per cent less than what graduates in her city of Hangzhou can expect, said Zhang, who used to sell clothes until the business succumbed to the pandemic.

The work of a full-time child, however, “isn’t just about receiving a salary or any form of compensation from parents”, she added. “It’s about genuinely enjoying the process of being with your parents and wanting to be there for them.”

mm_china_youth_unemployment_6_jiayi_vlog_walk_w_parents.jpg

Zhang Jiayi vlogging while taking her parents out for a walk.

That said, her salary from them is “well deserved”, she told the programme Money Mind in its special on youth unemployment in China.

Unemployment among 16- to 24-year-olds in China’s urban areas rose to 21.3 per cent in June, compared with 4.1 per cent among those aged 25 to 59, according to China’s National Bureau of Statistics.
As a new cohort of 11.6 million graduates join the workforce this summer, the figure could rise further.

China’s shaky economic recovery after lengthy pandemic lockdowns is partly to blame for the plight of its youth, although there are other reasons too, experts said.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_2.jpg

Tertiary education enrolment increased from 30 per cent in 2012 to nearly 60 per cent last year, official figures show.

“They’re being educated and brought up for high-end jobs — tech jobs or jobs that require higher education,” said Nancy Qian, the James J O’Connor Professor of Managerial Economics and Decision Sciences at Northwestern University in the United States.

The economic slowdown means those jobs are “shorter and shorter in supply”.

Zhu Hong, a professor of marketing and e-commerce at Nanjing University’s business school, said: “Our industrial structure hasn’t yet completed the shift from labour-intensive and low-end to high value-added technology or high-level service industries.”

As a result, “many graduates”, including master’s degree holders, are working as ride-hailing drivers and food delivery workers, she cited.

Zhu has even come across graduates from prestigious schools like Tsinghua University applying for sanitation jobs that “typically require only a high school or junior high school education”.

Another reason for the unemployment level is the tighter regulations, since 2021, on several sectors that are major employers of youths, said Bernard Aw, chief economist for Asia Pacific at credit insurer Coface.

These include the real estate, financial and private education sectors, and the tightening has meant a decline in jobs available to youths, he said.

The current situation prompted Chinese President Xi Jinping to exhort youths to be willing to “eat bitterness”, as quoted in the official People’s Daily newspaper on Youth Day in May.
Money Mind found out how three Chinese youths are navigating the realities of the job market.

FULL-TIME CHILD: ‘UNFAMILIAR TERRITORY’ AT FIRST

As with any other job, there has been a learning curve for Zhang in being a full-time child. In the beginning, she said, tasks such as cooking, driving and grocery shopping were “completely unfamiliar territory”.

“I couldn’t even distinguish between different types of vegetables at home,” she shared. But now that she has got the hang of it, “these tasks aren’t as difficult as I’d imagined”, she said.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_7_jiayi_vlog_w_parents.jpg


Zhang vlogging at home with her parents.

Not all full-time children take up the role because of unemployment, said Zhu.

Some of them return home to take a break from big cities “where salaries are low, work is exhausting, (their) health is deteriorating, commutes are long and there’s no visible future”.

Others do it because they have some financial buffer as well as high expectations for a job.

Some youths from cities have grandparents who own valuable real estate — courtesy of privatisation reforms in the 1990s — that could be worth “a small fortune, like half a million dollars (or) a million dollars in the city centre”, said Qian.

“Knowing you have that … also reduces the pressure to take jobs that you find personally not ideal.”

mm_china_youth_unemployment_10_job_fair.jpg


At a job fair in China.

Young people nowadays want a “reasonable income” but do not want to work overtime or their workload to be too heavy, said Li Zhuofei, a graduate of the Gengdan Institute of Beijing University of Technology.

But “most companies”, including state-owned enterprises, private and foreign firms, require overtime work, often without providing overtime pay, he said.

Experts say there are risks should youths remain full-time children for more than a few years.

“After a long period of isolation from the workplace and society, when the economy improves and they have the opportunity to re-enter the workforce, would they have lost the motivation … owing to the mentality of ‘lying flat’?” Zhu said.

She was referring to the “bai lan” phenomenon: Disillusioned youths getting out of China’s rat race and doing the bare minimum to get by. Its equivalent documented in other societies is “quiet quitting”.

For now, Zhang’s family is “very supportive” of her decision, she said. “Even if I earn less money, they believe that what I gain emotionally is more important.”

RURAL OPPORTUNITIES?​

In rural Xiangxi, Hunan province, Will Wang has found meaningful work in poverty alleviation and rural revitalisation for nearly six years.

Wang, who is from Shanghai, earned a master’s in international relations at New York University in the US. His social enterprise, Beyond the City, bridges the rural-urban divide by organising field study trips for both urban students and rural youths.

On trips to rural areas, urbanites live with local households and learn about ecology, traditional crafts and other topics from them. Rural youths, on the other hand, learn about the opportunities and challenges of urban migration on trips to cities.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_1_will_wang_in_xiangxi.jpg


Will Wang (standing, wearing black tee) in Xiangxi.

While rural-urban migration slowed in China in the years before COVID-19, it declined in 2020 for the first time. That year, 10.1 million people returned to the countryside, 1.6 million more than in 2019.

More youths are willing to consider rural living because the government has improved infrastructure in the countryside — there is a 5G network in Xiangxi — and some do not want a fast-paced city lifestyle, said Wang.

The cost of living is also lower in the countryside, while the income “can be comparable”, he added.

Zhu, however, believes the younger generation would consider moving to the countryside only under certain circumstances.

“If the cost of living in the city is high and they can’t find jobs, in such a situation, instead of ‘lying flat’ or ‘bai lan’ or relying on their parents … it could be considered,” she said.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_5_infrastructure_has_improved_in_countryside.jpg


Would more Chinese youths be willing to live in the countryside?

More of them would still prefer city living, she reckoned. “It aligns with their desire for social interaction, freedom and (vibrancy).”

PERFORMING ARTS DREAM, DATA ANALYSIS JOB

As for Beijing resident Qiu Qiu, she dreamed of working in the performing arts after graduating this year with a master’s in literature of theatre, film and television.

She sent dozens of job applications to television stations and media companies, even internet giants. But there was nary a response. Most of her resumes “seemed to sink into the abyss”, she described.

Qiu cast her net wider and managed to clinch a data analysis role in the human resources industry last month. It pays 14,000 yuan a month but “deviates quite a bit” from her field of study, she acknowledged.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_1_qiu_qiu.jpg


Beijing resident Qiu Qiu has put her performing arts dreams on hold.

It is important, however, to try different opportunities and be open to career advice dished out during the interview process, she said. “The key is to take the first step and engage with various job opportunities in society.”

Experts say there are gaps to bridge, for example between the jobs available and what youths aspire to and between youths’ salary expectations and what companies are willing to offer.

There are job openings waiting to be filled, such as technical and front-line positions in manufacturing, said Nina Wu, a human resources supervisor. These may not be the jobs, however, that “educated elite youth want”, noted Qian.

The typical salary for entry-level factory positions is around 2,000 to 4,000 yuan a month but could go up to 7,000 to 8,000 yuan in cities like Shenzhen, said Wu.

mm_china_youth_unemployment_11_graduates.jpg


Many graduates in China, not as many jobs matching their expectations.

Some advanced degree holders may have to look at similar salaries. Qian knows a graduate from one of China’s top five law schools who is looking for work in Shanghai, one of the country’s costliest cities, but faces monthly wages of between 3,000 and 7,000 yuan.

Schools may need to develop programmes and train their students for “priority sectors” such as advanced manufacturing, semiconductors, electric vehicles and new energy sources, said Aw.

Although the Chinese economy is still recovering from COVID-19 measures, and youth unemployment could moderate in the coming years, it will remain at higher levels than a decade ago, reckoned Qian.
“We should be looking at that as a generational problem,” she said.

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Since Zhang Jiayi is already 31 years old and living with her parents, there is no likelihood of her marrying and starting her own family? If enough number of women go this path, it may further depress birth rates. I am assuming unmarried women tend not to have children in China, am I right?
 
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Since Zhang Jiayi is already 31 years old and living with her parents, there is no likelihood of her marrying and starting her own family? If enough number of women go this path, it may further depress birth rates. I am assuming unmarried women tend not to have children in China, am I right?

There are large numbers of unmarried single women in Chinese cities on the other hand, large numbers of unmarried single man in village.

In modern society women survive better,

Women can occupy the center of bell curve while men tends to be outlier of left and right side,

Man are both alpha and extreme loser.
 
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There are large numbers of unmarried single women in Chinese cities on the other hand, large numbers of unmarried single man in village.

In modern society women survive better,

Women can occupy the center of bell curve while men tends to be outlier of left and right side,

Man are both alpha and extreme loser.
There were some cases chinese men married pakistani girls .
 
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Women can occupy the center of bell curve while men tends to be outlier of left and right side,

Man are both alpha and extreme loser.
Is this the sociology of modern China? In most places there are both high status and low status men and women. Hence, they join together and form high status and low status couples. You have doctors, scientists and businessmen on one end and laborers, clerical workers, food and retail service workers on another end. With the social dynamics of modern China, a large number of people will never form families and hence there won't be new population.
 
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Alpha man will kill of beta man and mate with all the women. Unlike the past, these days alpha men fk for recreation and produce no babies.

Women are weaker, and they survive better in draconian society because the can satisfy sexual desire of alpha.

China should rein the alpha men. This is what communism is about.
 
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Hopefully the government will support these “full time children” to also be able to get married and become parents. The grandparents can help raise the kids and people maybe able to afford and mange to have many kids, if they are so inclined.
 
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Alpha man will kill of beta man and mate with all the women. Unlike the past, these days alpha men fk for recreation and produce no babies.

Women are weaker, and they survive better in draconian society because the can satisfy sexual desire of alpha.

China should rein the alpha men. This is what communism is about.
If the alpha man is producing no babies as you said then they will die off, why to worry and reign in?
 
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Hopefully the government will support these “full time children” to also be able to get married and become parents. The grandparents can help raise the kids and people maybe able to afford and mange to have many kids, if they are so inclined.

These days, government are doing opposite. They ask children not to study hard. These lazy pig later become weak citizens and stay at home forever.
 
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These days, government are doing opposite. They ask children not to study hard. These lazy pig later become weak citizens and stay at home forever.
Kind of true, this is where I don't agree with the government, trying to kill off training and tutoring sector. a sector of the economy used to provide tens of millions decent jobs for young college graduates and generate hundreds of billions of dollars for the economy.
 
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Who is doing it and why? What is the incentive to become stupid?
The government put in place some laws limiting childrens study time and made scores of PE a required core course result for students to graduate or going to a higher school.
 
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There is now widespread policy to ask children not to study -- everywhere. Meanwhile after 18 years old college admission exam, government are asking people to work and study till death,

The reason is 18 years old exam paper is the MOST fair and meritocratic accessment exercise.

Make sure you dont compete with elite baby on admission.
 
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