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[Evil Flare]

 

[S.M.R]

Aamir, not readable post bigger one.


Is this the same one?
Jang Multimedia

 

[somebozo]

Another MQM bogus propoganda for self inflicted wounds and gathering sympathy!

 

[Mabs]

A tale of a Mohajir woman who MQM proudly vouches for and claims to represent. The questions is, is she the only one and an exception or there are many more like her ?

 

[somebozo]

A tale of a Mohajir woman who MQM proudly vouches for and claims to represent. The questions is, is she the only one and an exception or there are many more like her ?

MQM raises the banner of Mohajir and has been the largest abusers , persecutor, murderer, etc etc of Mohajirs. No sane headed or even partially educated person of Karachi supports MQM. MQM rules for shadow economy of Karachi such as drugs, weapons, theft, ransom and with its growing circles of operations it has come to clash with ANP which represents Afghan contraband runners and Jiay Sindh!

 

[Mabs]

Let me make it clear that my contention is with MQM and its policies only and I have nothing against any ethnicity living in Pakistan. They are all Pakistanis and that is enough for me to accept and respect them.

 

[Mabs]

MQM raises the banner of Mohajir and has been the largest abusers , persecutor, murderer, etc etc of Mohajirs. No sane headed or even partially educated person of Karachi supports MQM. MQM rules for shadow economy of Karachi such as drugs, weapons, theft, ransom and with its growing circles of operations it has come to clash with ANP which represents Afghan contraband runners and Jiay Sindh!

Its more of a turf war than a war for the rights of the people. Karachi is a gold mine and everyone ( MQM,ANP,PPP) want to make sure that they control the gold mine and set the rules of the game. In this tug of war for power, no one is willing to give in which is resulting in the deaths of countless civilians everyday.

 

[somebozo]

You are brainwashed bcaz of some fairy tales. MQM is party from Karachi, and Karachiites keep electing it. So you want to expose MQM in front of Karachiites which in your view dont know anything about MQM and you being outsider knows everything. MQM is not party of jagirdaars / waderas, hence the fund which it requires for running party affairs is collected from party workers / voters. To whom you call Bhatta. You know about Bhatta? It is the parchis which is distributed to the shop keepers / other businessemn by the Liyari gang war people. and It happens only when PPP is in power. As any businessman especially those who are working in boltan / kharadar areas. When MQM is in power they are happy that at least they will not get parchies from Bhatta collectors. Each parchi comprise of around 3 to 5 lacs. In which land you are living? Come to karachi and start some business here, you will come to know the realities.

That is complete blabber coming out of your quaid leaking behind due to over weight. I recommend you try opening a small shop somewhere in Karachi before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Being strictly neutral and as an observant I need to know from pro MQM; why have things gone worst since after MQM members left karachi, common Pakistani in Karachi have been targeted killed and economic damages to Public transports, police cars, private cars and homes have taken place. Logically it seems to have been caused by MQM.

Before MQM in 1986 there was no such violence after the arrival and formation of MQM things turned around. We common Pakistanis need to know what is the actual agenda of MQM why can it not accept defeat and when a party is no longer in power it should act civilized and sit in the opposition and oppose any bills that are not helpful and accept and work along with govt if the bill fits and have positive impact on Sindh. That is no way barbarically to come out and kill and destroy properties.

MQM has ruled over Karachi for the past so many years and yet it has not eliminated terrorism from those regions that have mafia and local terrorists and gangs wandering and taking over those areas literally what has MQM done is the past atleast 15 years of its rule on Sindh.

Another observation is mr. altaf is sitting in UK for the past so many years and many locals in Sindh have died and yet this man spouts and lies and deliver nonsense speeches via phone that he will sacrifice for Pakistan and Sindh. So why won't he come once and for all to Pakistan-Sindh and take charge and try to fix things up.

Last observation is non of the political parties are innocent but wtf is with MQM if ANP has got some seats in the Govt and rules Karachi.

Finally sorry but every political party has the right to go into any province and contest in elections, MQM is not the sole owner of Sindh never will, Urdu speakers are/were in Pakistan and before Pakistan in this very region altaf and his part is not the owner of urdu speakers try not associating urdu speakers with altaf, this ia dirty manipulative game by mqm.

 

[somebozo]

Simple words to challenge your post.......I am a policeman who is ordered to arrest you and force you to make up confessions, how long would you last in the police station before you admit atleast a dozen murders? You, I believe, would not last more then 5 mins!

Confessions under duress are not even accepted in courts and this is the reason for it. Anybody can be forced to accept anything under torture! Most of the Pakistan has been so brainwashed by state media and by agencies during the 90's that even today you filter news about MQM with the same veil that was pulled over your eyes 20 years ago!

A very well said quote "A smart enemy is better then a stupid friend!"

To refute your claims, I will bring in my younger brother. Born in 1993, lived abroad, never involved in Pakistani political scene and know nothing about operation clean up. After spending few years in Pakistan, he says himself that MQM is the biggest nuisance. Lucky for him, we enrolled him into milltary and got relocated to nawabshah!

 

[somebozo]

Who are those people? those who had never been to Karachi? People of Karachi want MQM despite of all of their negativity, so what is the problem to other people. There cannot be peace in ANY place when you will sideline / isolate the people of THAT place.

I also live in Karachi and so have three generations before us. I dont want MQM to even exisit in Karachi..MQM has a sepratist agenda and another mukti bahini in the making.

The Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Altaf (MQM-A) has been widely accused of human rights abuses since its founding two decades ago. It claims to represent Mohajirs— Urdu-speaking Muslims who fled to Pakistan from India after the 1947 partition of the subcontinent, and their descendants.

In the mid-1990s, the MQM-A was heavily involved in the widespread political violence that wracked Pakistan's southern Sindh province, particularly Karachi, the port city that is the country's commercial capital. MQM-A militants fought government forces, breakaway MQM factions, and militants from other ethnic-based movements. In the mid-1990s, the U.S. State Department, Amnesty International, and others accused the MQM-A and a rival faction of summary killings, torture, and other abuses (see, e.g., AI 1 Feb 1996; U.S. DOS Feb 1996). The MQM-A routinely denied involvement in violence.
Source: UNHCR | Refworld | Pakistan: Information on Mohajir/Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Altaf (MQM-A)

Text of Altaf Hussien speech at leadership forum hosted by Hindustan Times.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The scenario is so depressing that leadership of the day openly admits that the country would fall apart if the army did not run its affairs. What does it tell you? To me it signifies a telling blow to the very idea of Pakistan, a homeland for the Muslims of the subcontinent, and the two-nation theory, which continues to wreck untold miseries on the people of this region for the past five decades. Muslims are fighting and killing each other on the basis of tribal and linguistic affinity, sectarian strife is worse than ever before. Mosques and madarssas are but flourishing businesses. The less educated the Pesh Imam, the more popular and affluent he is likely to be. The advocates of Jihad, a medieval concept to tame the infidel, are wantonly killing followers of the faith as they leave places of worship. Perhaps the idea of Pakistan was dead at its inception, when the majority of Muslims chose to stay back after partition, a truism reiterated in the creation of Bangladesh in 1971. If you need further evidence look at the plight of 300,000 Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh for three decades in their passage to the chosen land. Unwanted by both Bangladesh and Pakistan, led by an unknown destiny.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The rights of the people who migrated to Pakistan from Muslim Minority Provinces of the Subcontinent was usurped and they had to face highhandedness and injustices. We formed the Mohajir Quami Movement (MQM) against these injustices.

Source:Altaf Hussain Visits India: His Keynote Speech - Chowk: India Pakistan Ideas Identities.com

I want to know what rights were usurped which he is talking about. Mohajir enjoyed elite status in Pakistan and even today continue to dominate the business and intellectual circles. Unless he is talking about his "bhaiyyas" who were deprived the right of collecting weekly bhatta as they did back in India.

The Indian Express (September 22) carries an article on the edit page by Saeed Naqvi that graphically describes a meeting of top Sindhi, Baluchi and Pakhtoon leaders in London's Action Hall recently demanding azadi from Pakistan. And they are not ordinary hirelings of RAW as the Pakistani administration would claim, but the most high-profile leaders like MQM's Altaf Hussain, Ataullah Mengal of Baluchistan, Mahmood Khan Achakzai of Pakhtoonistan and Syed Imdad Mohammed Shah of Sindh.

Naqvi says it (the meeting) was the ‘second burial of the two-nation theory’, the first being the creation of Bangladesh. Here one would like to disagree with Naqvi. First, the ‘second burial’ of two-nation theory is a little too overwrought a metaphor. For Naqvi the telecaster, it seems to have a great appeal as a sound-bite, but beyond that the two-nation theory does not signify anything as it has been worn out with overuse. Disemboweled of substance, it only serves as a handy tool to be used by men like L K Advani.
Source: Colonialism in disguise, MG Vol. 1 No. 18

The reason why altaf bhai will not come to settle in Pakistan is because he can co-ordinate much better with his indian masters while sitting in London than sitting in Karachi where it will be very easy for ISI to detect his activities of treason and perhaps silence him too. If MQM is such a patriotic party, why does it members frequently use Pakistan as a stepping stone??

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

samebozo I've never understood one thing. People lambaste AH for his treacherous ideas but stay mum about the head of every other 'nationalist' party and even some 'religious' ones. Is it because MQM has a bigger impact, OR because the people it represents have no 'backing' and can be kicked around OR that the people those other parties claim to represent will always support theirs as a unit without one dissenting voice?

 

[somebozo]

samebozo I've never understood one thing. People lambaste AH for his treacherous ideas but stay mum about the head of every other 'nationalist' party and even some 'religious' ones. Is it because MQM has a bigger impact, OR because the people it represents have no 'backing' and can be kicked around OR that the people those other parties claim to represent will always support theirs as a unit without one dissenting voice?

Because the other groups dont have a following as serious as MQM..if you are an alert person you must notice that MQM has been featured in every security journals as a terrorist or potential terrorist organization. From CIA Factbook, UNHCR, , SATP you name it!

Muttahida Quomi Mahaz ,Terrorist Group of Pakistan

MQM commands a following of dumb blind mute devotes willing to sacrifice themselves in a violent rage on one call of their pig sitting in London.

 

[Mav3rick]

PAKA QILA!! is another fake news from MQM nothing happened in paka qila!! no news source from international media source to such claims!

CHRONOLOGY OF ETHNIC VIOLENCE IN KARACHI - Includes Pakka Qila Massacre.

You do not even respect those who sacrificed their lives for peace.

 

[LeGenD]

MQM is not the party where One person's family keep sitting on hot seats. If he dies, party will not end up, someone other (definitely not from his family) will take his place.

Actually it is still a one man show. We do not have proper democratic parties in our country.

Karachi people choose MQM as their leaders, so every one should respect their mandate. Its a two way process, if you will respect one's mandate in turn your mandate will get respect.

The entire Karachi is not pro-MQM. No need to generalize on this. If you think it is, then you are wrong and if MQM leadership also thinks like this then..... you do the math on violence.

What are those unjust practices please elaborate.

My entire paragraph was about EXTORTION, genius. It is just one of the (known) wrong doings of MQM.

MQM holds the banner of party belonging to Middle Class and Low Class people. Majority of its leaders dont have their own houses or live in 120 to 240 sq. yards houses (5 Marla to 10 Marla House). E.g. Mustafa Kamal had no home, Party gifted him bcaz of his duties he performed for Karachi. So MQM holds the tool which relate to 98% of low level Pakistanis. If it is allowed freely to participate in elections, it will get the popularity. 'People sitting in AC rooms cannot get the understanding of power cut during load shedding' type slogans give them enough popularity.

It does not matters if MQM workers are mostly poor or not; the policies of MQM define its image. MQM should shun all unjust practices and should aim for people-friendly policies. Those policies should not just favor MQM supporters.

If MQM wants to expand its mandate and represent the people of Sindh in general, it needs to adopt a nuetral posture according to which it shall cater to needs of all.

Here is another sign of controversial policies of MQM: http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-...tics/15-Jul-2011/Sanity-brings-peace-in-Sindh

These so-called peaceful protests by MQM workers resulted in loss of lives and damage of property. Do the math.

And who is stopping MQM from holding free-and-fair elections?

I like Imran Khan much as he has neat and clean past, may be the reason he didnt jump into the mud. But he has now plans to get involved in the politics, let hope him for all the best.

Indeed.