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I always wonder what these guys are writing.


This I don't know what they are writing but what this little size guy is doing with American's is a great joy to me and I would love to see if this guy really do something against American's.
 
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North has an ICBM that can reach USA they need to test a nuke warhead capable of being mounted on that ICBM or they can test a bigger ICBM.

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This is what NK wants to test for the 6th test, and the US is freaking out, because this one can fit on the NK ICBMs, MRBMs and SRBMs..
 
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The us just drop mother of all democracy on isis in afghan. Take note korea, this is not a coincidence. First is tomohawk for syria, now moab on isis and a carrier to the koreas. Trump is for real
 
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The us just drop mother of all democracy on isis in afghan. Take note korea, this is not a coincidence. First is tomohawk for syria, now moab on isis and a carrier to the koreas. Trump is for real
I will agree with you but USA making so many threats shows US fear and desperation. When pro Analise things they take all aspects in the equation not just the messages being conveyed. I can understand Trump is for real for the first time but don't forget Kim has been real for many time in the past. Let see who is the bigger evil of the two.
 
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North Korea have teeth and it can hurts US as well. Question is can US take risk of CA security?

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Sorry, bro, with all due respect that is nothing but a bunch of mumbo jumbo jive. :D Those alleged missiles couldn't even reach India let alone the US. Nothing but silly hype. :-)

Kim with a nuke is more trust worthy than Trump with a nuke. I think most people here are expecting that North will do a Nuclear test tomorrow but some say that he will test an ICBM but my assessment says he will launch a nuke on the USA battle group.

looool, I love reading your stuff, BHarwana. :D He would be out of his mind to attack the US carrier group, especially in nuetral waters. You seriously think he is that stupid to attack the US Navy, unprovoked, in nuetral waters? I understand the anti-US sentiment and in many cases it's justified, but let's be realistic...that would be the dumbest decision ever made, worst than the one made on December 7th, 1941. :-)

Any country is more trust worthy than the U.S. with a nuke. In the 70+ history of nukes the U.S. is still the only country that has actually used nukes on another people. (ex: Hiroshima & Nagasaki)

Ah come on. The DRPK is more trustworthy with a nuke than the US? You can't say that with a straight face, ma man. When people bring up Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they forget that the Japanese were the ones who attacked the US first and started that war to continue expanding their Pacific empire. The US was dragged into war with Japan and ended up fighting the Japanese for 4 years before using those 2 nukes. The US Navy was chasing the Japanese off one island to the next including the Philippines and paid a heavy price in Iwo Jima and especially Okinawa. Their next step was either go into Japan and fight another few years or make them surrender with that awful, new weapon. The Japanese were too willing to self destruct and take as many Americans with them because of a similar, crazy, nationalistic pride we're seeing now in the DPRK. The US estimated they would lose another 300K - 600K troops if they went into Japan to fight. Even after the first bomb they gave the Japanese a chance to surrender and they didn't.

Interesting and coincidental part of history is that Douglass MacArthur wanted to use nukes against North Korea in 1952/53 and had a heated argument with Truman about it. Luckily Truman said no and ended up firing MacArthur.
 
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The problem is that SK might suffer a lot if war breaks out, NK is a huge dugged-in army, it won't be easy even for the US to dislodge it with these huge "mother of all bombs" and other sophisticated weapons.. NK will make sure to destroy at least Seoul the capital of SK, and that is already too much to bear..
NK has 60 submarine that can pose a threat (in case of war) to some vessels of the US, SK and Japanese navies in the Area.. Also the North Koreans are so indoctrinated that Kamikaze will look like a kid compared to them, they have often went on suicide missions into SK, and even when caught they gave a very tough fight till death, they were very rare instances where some were taken alive.. this is just to give an Idea of what kind of fight they might give and are capable of..
 
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Russia will step up like they did in UN vote
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Russia/North Korea share country border !!!

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If Syria/ North Korea / Iran get 30-40 Russian Fighter Jets I am sure the world balance will be restored


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"ohh.... they vetoed it "


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This one is a very scenic view
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Pakistani supporting North Koreans is really comical. Even Chinese have had enough with the idiotic Kim. Any war with North definitely bring some destruction to the south. Only when something is destroyed a new thing is built. If Trump actually attacks and dismantles North, then full marks to him.

China should invade from the west and make sure to get into an agreement that US leaves the Korean peninsula after the war
 
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I like how they call those WC-135 "nuclear sniffers" lol. I suppose it's not that difficult to gauge a nuclear blast just by seismic detection from ground platforms that measure earthquakes and other types of geological disturbances and shifts in the earth in a particular region. Must be a very interesting airborne lab to perform such a risky and dangerous test.

It's also one thing to fly over nuclear disaster locations to collect samples as a friendly/testing mission and another to fly close enough over a hostile environment that might have the defensive capability to shoot down an aircraft like that. We know the fat kid has the balls to do that. It will be very interesting to find out what the flight path of these aircraft would be and if they violate any DPRK airspace to get close enough to these NK test sites to sniff any radiation?

You be surprise that sometimes a big explosion doesn't always be a nuke. They just want to confirm that it actually is a nuke. And the plane doesn't have to fly over the blast. Thank the wind to push radioactive particles from the nuke blast in the air to the plane.
 
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The U.S. is prepared to launch a preemptive strike with conventional weapons against North Korea should officials become convinced that North Korea is about to follow through with a nuclear weapons test, multiple senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

North Korea has warned that a "big event" is near, and U.S. officials say signs point to a nuclear test that could come as early as this weekend.

The intelligence officials told NBC News that the U.S. has positioned two destroyers capable of shooting Tomahawk cruise missiles in the region, one just 300 miles from the North Korean nuclear test site.

American heavy bombers are also positioned in Guam to attack North Korea should it be necessary, and earlier this week, the Pentagon announced that the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier strike group was being diverted to the area.

The danger of such an attack by the U.S. is that it could provoke the volatile and unpredictable North Korean regime to launch its own blistering attack on its southern neighbor.

"The leadership in North Korea has shown absolutely no sign or interest in diplomacy or dialogue with any of the countries involved in this issue," Victor Cha, the Korea Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies told NBC News Thursday.

On Wednesday, North Korea said it would "hit the U.S. first" with a nuclear weapon should there be any signs of U.S. strikes.

On Thursday, North Korea warned of a "merciless retaliatory strike" should the U.S. take any action.

"By relentlessly bringing in a number of strategic nuclear assets to the Korean peninsula, the US is gravely threatening the peace and safety and driving the situation to the brink of a nuclear war," said North Korea's statement.

North Korea is not believed to have a deliverable long-range nuclear weapon, according to U.S. experts, nor does it yet possess an intercontinental missile.

South Korea's top diplomat said today that the U.S. would consult with Seoul before taking any serious measures. "U.S. officials, mindful of such concerns here, repeatedly reaffirmed that (the U.S.) will closely discuss with South Korea its North Korea-related measures," foreign minister Yun Byung told a special parliamentary meeting. "In fact, the U.S. is working to reassure us that it will not, just in case that we might hold such concerns."

U.S. Officials Are Aware of the Risk
"Two things are coming together this weekend," said retired Adm. James Stavridis, former commander of NATO and an NBC analyst. "One is the distinct possibility of a sixth North Korean nuclear weapons detonation and the other is an American carrier strike group, a great deal of firepower headed right at the Korean Peninsula."

The U.S. is aware that simply preparing an attack, even if it will only be launched if there is an "imminent" North Korean action, increases the danger of provoking a large conflict, multiple sources told NBC News.

"It's high stakes," a senior intelligence official directly involved in the planning told NBC News. "We are trying to communicate our level of concern and the existence of many military options to dissuade the North first."

"It's a feat that we've never achieved before but there is a new sense of resolve here," the official said, referring to the White House.

The threat of a preemptive strike comes on the same day the U.S. announced the use of its MOAB — or Mother of All Bombs — in Afghanistan, attacking underground facilities, and on the heels of U.S. missile strikes on a Syrian airbase last week, a strike that took place while President Trump was meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago.

Multiple government officials familiar with the situation say President Trump has talked to Chinese president Xi twice about North Korea since their Florida summit.

China has since sent its top nuclear negotiators to Pyongyang to communicate the gravity of the situation to the North, officials say. On Wednesday, President Xi called for a peaceful resolution to the escalating tensions.

Moscow has weighed in as well: "We are gravely concerned about Washington's plans regarding North Korea, considering hints about the unilateral use of a military scenario" the Putin government said in a press release issued on Tuesday.

South Korea Must Sign Off
Implementation of the preemptive U.S. plans, according to multiple U.S. officials, depends centrally on consent of the South Korean government. The sources stress that Seoul has got to be persuaded that action is worth the risk, as there is universal concern that any military move might provoke a North Korean attack, even a conventional attack across the DMZ.

Tensions have escalated on the Korean Peninsula, as this Saturday marks the anniversary of the birth of the nation's founder — Kim il-Sung, grandfather of the current leader, Kim Jong-un. At the highest levels in South Korea and the U.S., sources told NBC News, there are fears North Korea could mark the "Day of the Sun" by testing a nuclear device.

"North Korea in the past has used these major national holidays to celebrate the strengths of the regime and to reinforce the national narrative of their independence," says Cha.

According to multiple sources, the U.S. intelligence community has reported with "moderate confidence" that North Korea is preparing for its sixth underground nuclear test, though the U.S. is also in the dark regarding the specific timing.

The Trump administration, emboldened by their punishing strike on Syria, and by a successful meeting with the Chinese leader, hopes that the Chinese will use their considerable leverage to dissuade Kim Jong UN and his government from moving ahead with their nuclear program.

President Trump has said he thinks Xi "wants to help us with North Korea," He credited China during Thursday's White House news conference with Xi with taking a "big step" by turning back boats of coal that North Korea sells to China.

"I think that is what President Trump is getting trying to get the Chinese to do," said Cha. "[It] would impose real pain and force real choices on North Korea — whether the costs are worth it for them to continue to pursue this program if they no longer have any sustenance."

In addition to the coal ships, the Chinese made an important gesture at the UN Thursday: A surprising abstention on a Security Council resolution condemning a Syrian chemical weapons attack. China didn't stand with the Russians on Syria, as it has in the past.

The president also made clear that if the Chinese were unable to diffuse the situation, the U.S. would go to alone. On Thursday, he tweeted: "I have great confidence that China will properly deal with North Korea. If they are unable to do so, the U.S., and its allies will!"

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Kim can order it any time he wants. It's just a matter of when he wants to. Knowing his past he'll probably order the test soon.
 
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