Nobel prize for Ang sang suki is meaningless.

[Hyperion]

Nobel committee is out of touch with reality. I propose Donald Trump for 2018 award. That will surely put an end to this joke of a prize. Nobel, yeah right!

 

[Nilgiri]

Nobel committee is out of touch with reality. I propose Donald Trump for 2018 award. That will surely put an end to this joke of a prize. Nobel, yeah right!

Trump doesn't virtue signal. He doesn't tick the first most important box (each subsequent box doesnt have anything to do with actual peace on the ground btw).

 

[Banglar Bir]

Aung San Suu Kyi and the death of a political fiction
Afsan Chowdhury, September 7, 2017

Aung San Suu Kyi speaking at Oxford University ceremony in 19 June 2012. Photo: Reuters
For a very long time she upheld the perfect image of the liberal Western values, liberating her military controlled people by leading them in protest and later in house arrest, playing the piano by the window, separated from her family, her husband an Oxford don. Western approval was completed when she was given the Nobel Prize for Peace. She became the perfect symbol of what the West wanted to see in a political leader of the Eastern world.

If she is consorting with the military rulers today in evicting Rohingyas and killing a few she is also being practical about land and economic development also.

Minorities are always dispensable and more so if they are Muslims in today’s world. They also have worse stigma than military rulers as “terrorists” but that is not the point. ‘Liberating’ Rohingya held land makes good business sense now and always does.

Having made her first public statement she has not mentioned the refugees but on the ‘terrorist” group which will now meet with Western approval and her favourite darling of the Western world will be restored.

Historical links and the partial fiction of ethnic hatred
Economics is for the ruling class and racial hatred is for the lesser crowd. This combination has always worked as it is doing in Myanmar now.

Myanmar’s history is deeply linked to colonialism and it was even part of India till 1935. Bangladesh and Myanmar have historical ties of many centuries. Migrants from there came before the Aryans arrived and much of Bengal’s culture was influenced by them. The successful rice civilization is indebted to them and several IP groups draw their ancestry from there. Bengalis are the most Mongoloid genes penetrated people in South Asia of mixed descent.

There are dynastic connection as well with Arakan and Harikela both in the Myanmar border region. Later, the annexation by the Crown colony and subsequent penetration of entrepreneurs into Myanmar is well known. Interestingly Yangon was the place to hide for Bengali jilted lovers or to go to make a fortune as described in popular culture.

Bangladeshi investors do operate in Myanmar particularly in the agro sector but the big trade could well be in the drugs trade with the yaba market running into millions. It’s driven by demand and supply and difficult to predict how this will affect the latest conflict.

Driving out Rakhine has always made good sense when one is trying to free up land occupied by them which is need for agro and industrial projects. As has been reported in media, the government has evicted Buddhist small holders as well. So, if members of the majority can be driven out why the non-citizen should be spared? Adding killing, rape and arson to it comes as extras to make sure they never return.

Killing for a good cause?
But hatred of Rohingyas by the majority has a history older than the economic boom that is happening now. The idea that these people are from another hostile political geography is very deeply ingrained in the Myanmar mind and an Oxford education can’t make any difference to that. Today, Suu Kyi apologists from all over the world are saying that it’s the army’s and not her fault. But the point is, why should it make any difference?

Her reaction to the BBC commentator Mishal Hossain “I didn’t know I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim?”, show that the roots of the hatred is universal and older than the pre investment boom of today. The problem is that many are not willing to accept that the Myanmar leader is a normal ordinary person of that land and ethnic hatred comes with the territory. This hatred is backed by divergent historical role and context.

The demand for land is a recent matter but in the 1970s and even before that no such equation existed and even then the Rohingyas faced eviction. Then it was for land for agriculture. Now there is profit attached to blood and land thirst and that is why everyone is in agreement in Myanmar that this should happen.

She in her best sense has been doing it for her people. Myanmar gains, if the Rohingyas go away. Land is freed and investments are secure and land is plenty for other needs too.

The only point is, there is not much difference between an Oxford educated lady of great expectation and a lowly half-educated thug who grabs Hindu land in Bangladesh or environmentally sensitive flood plains lands to develop housing estate in the swamps of Dhaka.

Nobody hates without reason, nobody kills and burns without a cause. Myanmar’s ethnic cleansing policy is the final point of a vast array of laws passed to throw out the Rohingyas, the historically excluded. The issue was always occupation of land. To this has been added the incentive of higher investment returns on it.

This is good common sense and an Oxford education can’t change that. If it had the war leaders of UK including Churchill would not have starved 7 million Bengalis to death in 1943 to win the war over Germany. Killing is always for a greater cause.

And now comes the terrorists and the equations are going to change once again.
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/09/07/aung-san-suu-kyi-death-political-fiction-2/

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

But I have seen Pakistani and Bangladeshi people here quoting Amratya sen on Indian Issues and also teaching us how Buddhism is much better then Hinduism.

It's better when its convenient. Not so much when it's not.

Just like their crocodile tears for the Sikhs. They want Sikhs to have their own Khalistan but won't give them their holiest shrine aka Nankana Sahab.

They cry for rights of Kashmiris all day all night but then oppose the very dams that India build for those very Kashmiris.

It's all hipocrisy but then what do you expect form the progeny of a man who ate pork, savored wine and what not and yet created their Islamic state lol and is called their Quaid-E-***. lol

 

[Banglar Bir]

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[BABA AGHORI]

Now the situation in Myanmar, peace pigeons, the Nobel Prize in Suki is meaningless. We understand why the western community has given him this prize. But when Suki makes made clear statement - "I am no longer on the Rohingya issue". That means he is a pigeon of peace? During his time and Muslims are being destroyed. That means he and the supporters of this murder killer.

just for your info. Ang Sang Suki is a female.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

She looks like a tranny

 

[Styx]

She deserves a Bharat Ratna.

 

[Banglar Bir]

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[airmarshal]

Nobel Peace Prize is the most meaningless award in the world. Period!

 

[M.R.9]

just for your info. Ang Sang Suki is a female.

uff. really ? i forgot. she looks like HE.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Yeni Şafak

VIDEO: While the world focuses on Myanmar's leader Aung San Suu Kyi, Ashin Wirathu, a senior Buddhist monk, is also responsible for igniting violence against Muslims with his ultra-nationalist rhetoric.

Anti-Muslim monk who preaches hate: Ashin Wirathu
While the world focuses on Myanmar's leader Aung San Suu Kyi, Ashin Wirathu, a senior Buddhist monk, is also responsible for igniting violence against Muslims w...
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http://www.yenisafak.com/en/video-g...-monk-who-preaches-hate-ashin-wirathu-2155414

 

[Banglar Bir]

Take away Aung San Suu Kyi’s Nobel peace prize. She no longer deserves it
George Monbiot
Once she was an inspiration. Now, silent on the plight of the Rohingya in Myanmar, she is complicit in crimes against humanity

Aung San Suu Kyi: ‘It is hard to think of any recent political leader by whom such high hopes have been so cruelly betrayed.’ Photograph: Edgar Su/Reuters
Tuesday 5 September 2017 19.30 BST Last modified on Wednesday 6 September 2017 08.18 BST

Few of us expect much from political leaders: to do otherwise is to invite despair. But to Aung San Suu Kyi we entrusted our hopes. To mention her name was to invoke patience and resilience in the face of suffering, courage and determination in the unyielding struggle for freedom. She was an inspiration to us all.

Nobel peace prize in 1991; when she was finally released from house arrest in 2010; and when she won the general election in 2015.

None of this is forgotten. Nor are the many cruelties she suffered, including isolation, physical attacks and the junta’s curtailment of her family life. But it is hard to think of any recent political leader by whom such high hopes have been so cruelly betrayed.

By any standards, the treatment of the Rohingya people, a Muslim minority in Myanmar, is repugnant. By the standards Aung San Suu Kyi came to symbolise, it is grotesque. They have been described by the UN as “the world’s most persecuted minority”, a status that has not changed since she took office.

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide describes five acts, any one of which, when “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”, amounts to genocide. With the obvious and often explicit purpose of destroying this group, four of them have been practised more or less continuously by Myanmar’s armed forces since Aung San Suu Kyi became de facto political leader.

I recognise that the armed forces retain great power in Myanmar, and that Aung San Suu Kyi does not exercise effective control over them. I recognise that the scope of her actions is limited. But, as well as a number of practical and legal measures that she could use directly to restrain these atrocities, she possesses one power in abundance: the power to speak out. Rather than deploying it, her response amounts to a mixture of silence, the denial of well-documented evidence, and the obstruction of humanitarian aid.

I doubt she has read the UN human rights reporton the treatment of the Rohingyas, released in February. The crimes it revealed were horrific.

It documents the mass rape of women and girls, some of whom died as a result of the sexual injuries they suffered. It shows how children and adults had their throats slit in front of their families.

It reports the summary executions of teachers, elders and community leaders; helicopter gunships randomly spraying villages with gunfire; people shut in their homes and burnt alive; a woman in labour beaten by soldiers, her baby stamped to death as it was born.

It details the deliberate destruction of crops and the burning of villages to drive entire populations out of their homes; people trying to flee gunned down in their boats

Rohingya refugees from Myanmar’s Rakhine state arrive in Bangladesh:120,000 people have been forced to flee in the past fortnight. Photograph: KM Asad/AFP/Getty Images
And this is just one report. Amnesty International published a similar dossier last year. There is a mountain of evidence suggesting that these actions are an attempt to eliminate this ethnic group from Myanmar.

Hard as it is to imagine, this campaign of terror has escalated in recent days. Refugees arriving in Bangladesh report widespread massacres. Malnutrition ravages the Rohingya, afflicting 80,000 children.

In response Aung San Suu Kyi has blamed these atrocities, in a chillingly remote interview, on insurgents, and expressed astonishment that anyone would wish to fight the army when the government has done so much for them. Perhaps this astonishment comes easily to someone who has never visited northern Rakhine state, where most of this is happening.

It is true that some Rohingya people have taken up arms, and that the latest massacres were triggered by the killing of 12 members of the security forces last month, attributed to a group that calls itself the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army. But the military response has been to attack entire populations, regardless of any possible involvement in the insurgency, and to spread such terror that 120,000 people have been forced to flee in the past fortnight.

In her Nobel lecture, Aung San Suu Kyi remarked: “Wherever suffering is ignored, there will be the seeds of conflict, for suffering degrades and embitters and enrages.” The rage of those Rohingya people who have taken up arms has been used as an excuse to accelerate an existing programme of ethnic cleansing.

She has not only denied the atrocities, attempting to shield the armed forces from criticism; she has also denied the very identity of the people being attacked, asking the US ambassador not to use the term Rohingya. This is in line with the government’s policy of disavowing their existence as an ethnic group, and classifying them – though they have lived in Myanmar for centuries – as interlopers. She has upheld the 1982 Citizenship Law, which denies these people their rights.

When a Rohingya woman provided detailed allegations about her gang rape and associated injuries by Myanmar soldiers, Aung San Suu Kyi’s office posted a banner on its Facebook page reading “Fake Rape”. Given her reputation for micromanagement, it seems unlikely that such action would have been taken without her approval.

Not only has she snubbed and obstructed UN officials who have sought to investigate the treatment of the Rohingya, but her government has prevented aid agencies from distributing food, water and medicines to people displaced or isolated by the violence. Her office has accused aid workers of helping “terrorists”, putting them at risk of attack, further impeding their attempts to help people who face starvation.

So far Aung San Suu Kyi has been insulated by the apologetics of those who refuse to believe she could so radically abandon the principles to which she once appealed. A list of excuses is proffered: that she didn’t want to jeopardise her prospects of election; that she doesn’t want to offer the armed forces a pretext to tighten their grip on power; that she has to keep China happy.

None of them stand up. As a great democracy campaigner once remarked: “It is not power that corrupts, but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it.” Who was this person? Aung San Suu Kyi. But now, whether out of prejudice or out of fear, she denies to others the freedoms she rightly claimed for herself. Her regime excludes – and in some cases seeks to silence – the very activists who helped to ensure her own rights were recognised.

This week, to my own astonishment, I found myself signing a petition for the revocation of her Nobel peace prize. I believe the Nobel committee should retain responsibility for the prizes it awards, and withdraw them if its laureates later violate the principles for which they were recognised. There are two cases in which this appears to be appropriate. One is Barack Obama, who, bafflingly, was given the prize before he was tested in office. His programme of drone strikes, which slaughtered large numbers of civilians, should disqualify him from this honour. The other is Aung San Suu Kyi.

Please sign this petition. Why? Because we now contemplate an extraordinary situation: a Nobel peace laureate complicit in crimes against humanity.
• George Monbiot is a Guardian columnist
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...an-suu-kyi-nobel-peace-prize-rohingya-myanmar

 

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Cartoon: Tanmoy on Suu Kyi’s Nobel peace prize controversy and ongoing Rohingya crisis

• Syed Rashad Imam Tanmoy
• Published at 09:13 PM September 10, 2017
• Last updated at 09:40 PM September 10, 2017

The Dhaka Tribune's Syed Rashad Imam Tanmoy weighs in on the call for stripping Aung San Suu Kyi of her Nobel Prize, as the once iconic leader of democracy continues to remain silent on one of the worst humanitarian crises of our time, taking place under her leadership of the Myanmar state.