Featured No Weapons to Pakistan; Russia assures India during Rajnath's visit to Moscow

[xyx007]

I'm not saying it's fake I had my own doubts that's it..... even India is not claiming to have MIRV even after testing ICBM like Agni 5 then obviously anyone can doubt about Pakistan having it before India.....

During testimony to Congress outlining worldwide threats on March 6, Robert Ashley, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), stated: “In January 2017, Pakistan conducted the first test launch of its nuclear-capable Ababeel ballistic missile, demonstrating South Asia’s first MIRV payload.” It appeared to be the first time a U.S. official publicly confirmed that Islamabad tested a MIRVed missile;
as far as your concerns, it doesn't matter to us.

 

[dilpakistani]

Russia, India’s historical ally, has assured New Delhi that it won’t sell arms to Pakistan. This was discussed during a meeting between Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh and his Russian counterpart Gen. Sergei Goishu in Moscow.

Singh, accompanied by a delegation including Defense Secretary and other senior officials are on a visit to Moscow to participate in the 75th Anniversary Event to commemorate Victory Day by the Russian Federation in the meeting of Defence Ministers of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) and Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) countries.
Notably, the visit coincides with the joint exercises being conducted by the navies of India and Russia off the Straits of Malacca, a decision taken after India pulled out from Kavkaz-2020 military exercises conducted by Russia.
The drills take place at the same location where the Indian Navy is all set to host the Malabar-2020 joint naval exercises with the United States, Japan, and possibly Australia.
“There was a substantial commonality in positions with respect to challenges at the regional and international levels in the areas of peace and security, reflective of the deep trust and confidence that both sides enjoy as Strategic Partners,” stated the Ministry of Defense.
The meeting comes at a key point when Indian and PLA soldiers continue to engage in provocative actions in Eastern Ladakh along the Line of Actual Control, the border between India and China.
In response to the heightened tensions, the Indian government started off to hastily acquire international support, making reforms in its indigenous defense manufacturing and ordering new aircraft and weapon systems from Russia and other countries.
“Raksha Mantri conveyed appreciation for the steadfast support provided by Russia consistent with the defense and security needs of India, and in this context, particularly noted the timely manner in which the Russian had responded to requests for procurement of particular weapon systems. Both sides would continue to maintain contacts to ensure the timely delivery,” the statement said.
The Russian defense minister also appreciated the ‘Make in India’ campaign and reiterated Moscow’s commitment to engage with the Indians to ‘ensure the success of the program’ including participation in the forthcoming Aero India Exhibition to be held in February next year. Both sides also welcomed the advances in the procurement of the AK-203 assault rifles.
Singh also extended an invitation for General Shoigu to visit India for the next meeting of the Inter-Governmental Commission for Technical & Military Cooperation which is expected to be held towards the end of this year.

No Weapons To Pakistan; Russia Assures India Of No Business With Islamabad At Moscow Meet

Russia, India’s historical ally, has assured New Delhi that it won’t sell arms to Pakistan. This was discussed during a meeting between Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh and his Russian counterpart Gen. Sergei Goishu in Moscow. SAAB To Make Its Gripen Jets Stealth With Advanced Jammer Pods &...

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should we care , I dont think so becuase we are not depended on any russian weapon systems.
India have dollars but we have important stretegic position in region where superpowers needs us.
New Pakistan is emerging and no one stop us.

that's what they always say... But Mi-26 and mi-35s are not weapons i guess even kornet ATGMs are not weapons .... they will never provide us fighter jets... but they will definitely provide engines to china for our jets....so nothing to converse about.

 

[GumNaam]

as india gets penetrated in her bungholes with Russian made weapons given to China, Russia assures her that she won't get penetrated by Pakistan using the same Russian weapons but then turns around and hands Pakistan engines & gunships!

 

[313ghazi]

Pakistan can buy less strategic assets such as choppers, ATGM,engines etc from Russia but they will never get anything like BRAHMOS from Russia...... India too will not let it happen......

We make our own.
Thanks.

 

[nahtanbob]

The Pakistanis have long since been diversifying their foreign policy. They seem to have reduced the full focus of foreign policy on the United States and China and have begun their plans to connect with other countries. The Pakistanis are also interested in exploiting Russia'sRussia's capabilities in their strategic and extensive cooperation with China.
On the other hand, in recent years, the United States has preferred India to Pakistan. This along with tensions between Islamabad and Washington, has led to widespread dissatisfaction in Pakistan.
Therefore, Pakistan is trying to use Russia to balance its foreign policies regarding India and the United States. Pakistan is also trying to use its relations with Russia to gain advantages over the United States by considering the regional and international confrontations and rivalries.
FYI- there is natural synergy exist to have close relationship with Russian and Turkey culture. It is in our bloodline how neo-Ottoman fantasies are finding an enthusiastic audience in a country that struggles with Saudi and Western influence. It is just one example of my family whose roots connected with Imam Shamil in Cheychenay and Turkey culture; millions of families living in Pakistan are sharing the same cultures. Do you see any influence of any Indian culture or more Central Asian among us? Allah blesses us as a Marshal race(Pakistani), a warrior race in our family bloodline, to balance its power.

It is like waiting for the bus when it has long left. Russia is a shell of the former USSR.

Russia is still selling top of the line weapons to India. India is a bigger and more lucrative market for them. Russia will join the American led order at anytime. They are negotiating for a bigger slice of the pie.

There is nothing in common between Pakistani and orthodox Russian culture. As far as Central Asians go you share historical bloodlines with them. The only problem is that 100+ years of Soviet rule has deprogrammed them for generations to come. I doubt you are ever going to connect with them for a very long time

 

[nahtanbob]

From 1923 to 1991, for 68 years Russia was under the brutal rule and control of the Jewish-Zonist Bolsheviks who established the Soviet Union. During this time, the Bolsheviks savagely oppressed the Russians who are predominantly Orthodox Christians. Any intellectual worth his salt would tell you that Soviet Union of the Bolsheviks and the Russian Federation of the Orthodox Christians are two different entities altogether.

Pakistan has every reason to engage Russia in a positive light and to establish mutually respectful and harmonious relation. Today's Russia is one with whom Pakistan can should establish a strong alliance with. There is no reason otherwise for Pakistan not to do so.

spare me this moral BS. the pakistani state has no issues selling JF-17s to Myanmar, making friends with equally brutal Chinese dictatorship in the past and providing foot soldiers for the autocratic Gulf Arab monarchies

why is hard to say that you screwed up with respect to the USSR in the 1950s and 1960s ?

 

[Nasr]

You know something is wrong, when some elements try too hard to discourage a narrative when the topic has nothing to do with them. Jewish-Bolshevik-Zionist Soviets were around for 68 years, not 100 years. And Orthodox Russians aren't angels, they are humans and everyone has their own way of coping with the brutality metted out to them by Bolshevik-scum.

Pakistan has a heart that can touch even the most stone cold of hearts. And as for Russia, they are a resilient, straight forward and good people as any other nation in the world. They have been to hell and back, twice!! So as a Pakistani, I would cut them Russians a heck of a lot of slack.

Pakistan .... do not forget that not putting all your eggs in one basket, has always worked wonders for you. Don't stop now, establish cordial, respectful and honest relations with Russia. You shall find that Russia is not a lying scumbag like america. You (Pakistan) shall find that Russia is not owned and controlled by zionists like america, britain and france are. You (Pakistan) shall find that your sincere hand in friendship to Russia would not be in vain.

Unlike the host nations (america, britain, france, netherlands, australia and canada) to that parasitic cancer called zionism. Russia doesn't take any orders from zionists. So bare that in mind when some american or brit or french tries to convince you otherwise with their nasty@$$ lies.

 

[Nasr]

spare me this moral BS. the pakistani state has no issues selling JF-17s to Myanmar, making friends with equally brutal Chinese dictatorship in the past and providing foot soldiers for the autocratic Gulf Arab monarchies

why is hard to say that you screwed up with respect to the USSR in the 1950s and 1960s ?

Kinda rich coming from someone whose nation is the epitome of lies, deceit, wars, regime changes and genocides. Hope you didn't choke when thought to type the word "moral" in your post.

Myanmar was sold jets just the same way america sells hundreds of billions of U.S tax payer dollars worth of fighter-jets, tanks, gunships, missiles, technology and etc ... Free of Cost btw ... to their zionist master's little p!glet (israel), while it (p!glet israel) murders thousands of Palestinians every friggin day. Chinese dictatorial regime is just as good an ally, compared to the zionist-french colonialist $wines still running rampant in North-West Africa. Or the zionist-british turds still holding on to their colonialistic mentality and conquest like Diego Garcia, Gibraltar, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Las Malvinas (falklands) and the list goes on and on.

So spare me your whining about morals. Your american zionist morals are as good as unicorns galloping on rainbows and cows jumping over the moon!!!

 

[Microsoft]

Kinda rich coming from someone whose nation is the epitome of lies, deceit, wars, regime changes and genocides. Hope you didn't choke when thought to type the word "moral" in your post.

Myanmar was sold jets just the same way america sells hundreds of billions of U.S tax payer dollars worth of fighter-jets, tanks, gunships, missiles, technology and etc ... Free of Cost btw ... to their zionist master's little p!glet (israel), while it (p!glet israel) murders thousands of Palestinians every friggin day. Chinese dictatorial regime is just as good an ally, compared to the zionist-french colonialist $wines still running rampant in North-West Africa. Or the zionist-british turds still holding on to their colonialistic mentality and conquest like Diego Garcia, Gibraltar, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Las Malvinas (falklands) and the list goes on and on.

So spare me your whining about morals. Your american zionist morals are as good as unicorns galloping on rainbows and cows jumping over the moon!!!

That guy is an Indian who is ashamed of his flag FYI. Don't associate the American flag with him.

 

[xyx007]

spare me this moral BS. the pakistani state has no issues selling JF-17s to Myanmar, making friends with equally brutal Chinese dictatorship in the past and providing foot soldiers for the autocratic Gulf Arab monarchies

why is hard to say that you screwed up with respect to the USSR in the 1950s and 1960s ?

it is important to bear in mind that the key factor behind Pakistan’s policy of joining the Western alliances was the need to find an equalizer against India, Blame Britisher and Indian hardcore leaders at that time who don't want to see pakistan existance . Under military pacts Pakistan secured Western military equipments for the armed forces as in January 1957, Ayub Khan could declare “we are no more short of men and material”. The only implicit benefit of the alliances with west was that Pakistan secured more arms and strengthened its defenses against India. However the costs of the alliances were more serious than its benefits. India and USSR came closer to each other against Pakistan as the Soviet interpreted the military pacts as US cold war strategy for the Soviet containment. With that, USSR increased its backing to India against Pakistan and the Indo-Russian links strengthen manifolds. Russia started openly supporting Indian cause on the issue of Kashmir and even acknowledged it a state of India. They supported India politically, economically, military and technically and even established a connection of brotherhood with India. Besides, Soviet Union also extended its support towards Afghanistan on Pakhtoonistan issue.
More adverse impact was that, USSR abused its veto power by preventing every resolution on Kashmir in the Security Council. So the costs of opting for USA bloc instead USSR were more than its benefits. Even at the time of wars-1965, 1971, Pakistan did not accept any assistance under the military pacts.

 

[nahtanbob]

it is important to bear in mind that the key factor behind Pakistan’s policy of joining the Western alliances was the need to find an equalizer against India, Blame Britisher and Indian hardcore leaders at that time who don't want to see pakistan existance . Under military pacts Pakistan secured Western military equipments for the armed forces as in January 1957, Ayub Khan could declare “we are no more short of men and material”. The only implicit benefit of the alliances with west was that Pakistan secured more arms and strengthened its defenses against India. However the costs of the alliances were more serious than its benefits. India and USSR came closer to each other against Pakistan as the Soviet interpreted the military pacts as US cold war strategy for the Soviet containment. With that, USSR increased its backing to India against Pakistan and the Indo-Russian links strengthen manifolds. Russia started openly supporting Indian cause on the issue of Kashmir and even acknowledged it a state of India. They supported India politically, economically, military and technically and even established a connection of brotherhood with India. Besides, Soviet Union also extended its support towards Afghanistan on Pakhtoonistan issue.
More adverse impact was that, USSR abused its veto power by preventing every resolution on Kashmir in the Security Council. So the costs of opting for USA bloc instead USSR were more than its benefits. Even at the time of wars-1965, 1971, Pakistan did not accept any assistance under the military pacts.

I have no problem with your explanation. It is called sale to the highest bidder. You cannot complain about USSR or Bolsheviks.

 

[nahtanbob]

Kinda rich coming from someone whose nation is the epitome of lies, deceit, wars, regime changes and genocides. Hope you didn't choke when thought to type the word "moral" in your post.

Myanmar was sold jets just the same way america sells hundreds of billions of U.S tax payer dollars worth of fighter-jets, tanks, gunships, missiles, technology and etc ... Free of Cost btw ... to their zionist master's little p!glet (israel), while it (p!glet israel) murders thousands of Palestinians every friggin day.

there are around 4 million Palestinians. killing thousands per day is not possible

 

[xyx007]

there are around 4 million Palestinians. killing thousands per day is not possible

Palestinian Genocide has killed 2.2 million. Israel should be paying holocaust reparations, not collecting them. Israel must end the Palestinian Holocaust. The Zionist assault on Palestine has killed about 2.2 million Palestinians—100,000 directly, the other 2.1 million from imposed deprivation—according to Dr. Gideon Polya, retired science professor from La Trobe University of Melbourne, Australia. Now What is the so-called Israel model we are seeing in Kashmir that your country is apparently following. This has sent shockwaves across India’s diplomatic community and turned into an international incident with Pakistan’s Prime Minister Imran Khan terming the top diplomat’s comments as an example of India’s “fascist mindset”.

 

[nahtanbob]

Palestinian Genocide has killed 2.2 million. Israel should be paying holocaust reparations, not collecting them. Israel must end the Palestinian Holocaust. The Zionist assault on Palestine has killed about 2.2 million Palestinians—100,000 directly, the other 2.1 million from imposed deprivation—according to Dr. Gideon Polya, retired science professor from La Trobe University of Melbourne, Australia. Now What is the so-called Israel model we are seeing in Kashmir that your country is apparently following. This has sent shockwaves across India’s diplomatic community and turned into an international incident with Pakistan’s Prime Minister Imran Khan terming the top diplomat’s comments as an example of India’s “fascist mindset”.

Pulling numbers out of air does not make it 2.2 million

It is hard to take Imran Khan seriously when you are backing groups like the Taliban

 

[Tair-Lahoti]

Pakistan-Russia defence ties discussed


An ISPR statement issued here on Saturday said: “Matters of bilateral military cooperation and regional security dynamics between the two countries were discussed during the meeting.”

Gen Raza was on a two-day official visit to Russia to attend Defence and Security Cooperation Conference at the SCO forum.

Pakistan’s fight against terrorism was also discussed at the meeting.

Gen Raza, the ISPR said, would also attend the closing ceremony of International Military Games — 2020 in Moscow.

Pakistan armed forces had been regularly participating in the games for the past three years, the statement said.

Published in Dawn, September 6th, 2020