No place for terrorists in ‘New Pakistan’: PM

[HammerHead081]

Good statement hope he tight grip.on ttp and raw nds agents groups

TTP and Balochi Separatists are the same thing. Funded by RAW.

Words mean nada. Stop supporting JeM, LeT, HM, disband MJC. Which I think is not gonna happen, IK has no power for it.

Stop supporting TTP and Balochi Separatists.

 

[Imran Khan]

TTP and Balochi Separatists are the same thing. Funded by RAW.


Stop supporting TTP and Balochi Separatists.

same mother company but different brands

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Is he saying that jaishe mohammed is not behind the attack or does he mean to say that there is no jaishe mohammed in pakistan.

he is saying pakistaniz need to leave terrorism support . he is saying we need to change our ways. he is a leader a guide he is reforming Pakistan. it will also be very good for india china afghanistan and iran.

New pakistan will make this Region Safe and free from terroism. old days are gone he is talking about new pakistan. Naya pakistan.

 

[The Eagle]

Speaking on the topic, it mostly goes just one way. Afghan, Iran, India all three neighbors have accused you of groups that operate from Pakistan attacking their army.

Watch, lesson and read Hagel & mattis as what they told about Indian sponsored terrorism through Afghanistan against Pakistan. So Afghanistan claiming as such is nothing in this regard where numerous terrorist organizations are breeding and attacking Pakistan and Iran simultaneously. Your favour to India is understood but that is not the strategical truth of this region. Speaking of terrorism, Sri-Lanka was also at receiving end due to India. Mukti Bahini was a proud child that Modi openly owned.

Today, do any of our neighbors accuse us of terrorism? BD have a sizable Hindu minority, do you see RSS-Hindutva blowing up in busy streets or ramming IED's at BD military? Or sindhi Hindus in Pakistan.

Indeed you will miss the most interesting part that Shaikh Hasina has been hanging everyone from Islamic Party. Everyone knows as how BD becomes a remote state to India. You wouldn't mention but outside world knows the huge influence as well as Indian footprints in BD establishment.

Speaking of RSS - Hindutva, sure their members may have been involved in riots, vigilantism, but they don't send proxies to Pakistan, imagining such a scenario will be hilarious. They are present in remote pockets in India, their top leader drive around in scooter (until recently he got SPG protection).

Lets just mention the last two arrests where on one occasion RSS Gang was caught with grenade & was disguising as a Muslim (your own media reported not too long ago) and the accused accepted the same. Then, just recently Court released 4 of RSS Gang members accused of Samjhota Express Bombing. NIA found one of the Colonel (very close to Doval) and these four involved in terrorism. Not to forget 4 of them accused confessed previously as well. So the point is, the gang is involved but you are looking at only a picture which is being painted domestically. How could someone ignore the fact that such kind of pawns are not available to be utilized against Pakistan. Surely, thakrey or Doval wouldn't be blowing themselves in Pakistan. R&AW wouldn't come on national television to address but itself is pretty much in coordination with groups like TTP/BLA/BLF etc.

We should not forget Aslam Achoo, the mastermind of Chinese Consulate attack in Karachi was once medically treated inside India (a hospital pictures are available) even his passport with different name was issued from Afghanistan. Also, Kalbhushan is a living example of Indian terrorism inside Pakistan and the same of Indian asset used Iranian soil to travel in, be in contact & execute plans from time to time. TTP terrorist Mehsud was intercepted by CIA inside Afghanistan while he was traveling to a specific destination but most importantly with NDS/R&AW assets and soon he ended up with Pakistan authorities where he confessed in a video about the support from India & NDS. So, I can carry on with many names & references but still, it will only matter if you are open to accept India's hands in this game.

India stop supporting these proxies, the world will then ask Pakistan as well. However, as India is lucky to have a huge media propaganda mouthpiece which can't be countered in similar fashion by Pakistan hence, India's claim of narrative makes sense but not necessarily to be true at all.

Not sure about R&AW, not much information of them are available to us, nobody even hears much about them in here and their funding is too limited for what you accuse them of.

If you don't have much information or mention then you are totally blank on funding. Just for a starter, as I said before, listen to Hagel & then read Mattis statement. Afghanistan has heavy R&AW presence and so its footprints in Iran ref: Kalbhushan. Furthermore, if you are interested, help yourself by understanding the link of BLA/BLF fighters having visas and hides either in Iran border area or deep inside Afghanistan are also in contact with Doval's assistants. Didn't Marri visited India? Aslam Achoo? and many others visiting Indian embassies in Afghanistan. Why not to search about BLA/BLF being assassinated inside Afghanistan by unknown persons. Labeling Pakistan is easy for India especially it has been denied by everyone post Pulwama attack. That attacker was a local Kashmiri that obtained all the explosives locally, planned there and then interestingly breached the most secured barrier to reach CRPF convoy and blown himself. Even Ex Indian Military said that it doesn't looks like foreign but internally happening. India has already created many Wani(s) due to continuous brutalities inside Indian Occupied Kashmir. Not to mention the law to allow Rape as a war tool and there are numerous cases. Do you think that despite all of that pallets, rapes, encounters etc; youth will keep quiet? Didn't India read statements of those attackers that are mostly being tortured in past by Indian Security Forces or their loved ones were killed by Indian Forces.

However, for India it is easy to blame Pakistan and create hype which actually serves in many ways like domestically creating a phobia against Pakistan under nationalism to vote while covering own incompetence to deal with the matter in Indian Occupied Kashmir, an international propaganda to malign or an attempt to isolate Pakistan.

Pakistan has suffered more than anyone into the hands of terrorism hence, it is better that others should think before lecturing Pakistan over terrorism and losses as such. Unfortunately, Pakistan did not opt for aggressive & effective diplomacy in past which could be due to many reasons but corruption, personal interests & sabotage being on top by the vile leadership. Current development speaks volume that Pakistan takes action without any difference when we are strong enough firstly by securing most of the border so comes the internal cleansing while dealing with any remains of those vile creatures. On other hand, India has been naming personalities and that too mostly based upon social media contents and certain pages ran by anonymous people hence, linking to Pakistan.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Watch, lesson and read Hagel & mattis as what they told about Indian sponsored terrorism through Afghanistan against Pakistan. So Afghanistan claiming as such is nothing in this regard where numerous terrorist organizations are breeding and attacking Pakistan and Iran simultaneously. Your favour to India is understood but that is not the strategical truth of this region. Speaking of terrorism, Sri-Lanka was also at receiving end due to India. Mukti Bahini was a proud child that Modi openly owned.

Individuals may have different opinions, thoughts on it. That doesn't make them source of absolute truth. What you are talking about are mere allegations when it comes to India. Mind you, TTP was your own creation and they are not a prominent organization. Given the security situation in Pakistan, I wouldn't be surprised if gun men can simply barge into schools or fire at the buses or crowds. You have lax gun control laws. Or they are not strictly enforced.
Sri Lankan issue with LTTE is in the past, India's alleged support was even short lived back in late 80's to 90's. We have learned our lessons from it. Mukti Bahini is simply our reaction to "Pakistani refugees" (an enemy nation) who came into India in hundreds of thousands of groups after your action against them. We openly owned them even before Modi. During IG times.

Indeed you will miss the most interesting part that Shaikh Hasina has been hanging everyone from Islamic Party. Everyone knows as how BD becomes a remote state to India. You wouldn't mention but outside world knows the huge influence as well as Indian footprints in BD establishment.

Well, she had a good reason for it. They were either involved in crimes against Bengalis (during liberation) or her father's assassination plot. Her party alone have enough Islamist to fill up an Indian state. Speaking of BD, they are a very Independent state vis Pakistan. They don't have billions of debts owed to any big powers, their trade is not entirely depended on one or two country. Your idea of a remote state is having friendly relation and supporting it in most platforms is definition of coexistence. India - BD are neighbors, there are no rooms for hostility. India have very good relationship with Establishment of all our neighbors. Heck even the Nepali Army chief and IA chief are honorary COAS of each other. Or say Bhutan, who's king, queen, etc... got their education in India. Afghanistan when their military officers train in IMA. These are not examples of remote state, but partnerships. Something which countries having a binary view of world cannot understand.

Lets just mention the last two arrests where on one occasion RSS Gang was caught with grenade & was disguising as a Muslim (your own media reported not too long ago) and the accused accepted the same. Then, just recently Court released 4 of RSS Gang members accused of Samjhota Express Bombing. NIA found one of the Colonel (very close to Doval) and these four involved in terrorism. Not to forget 4 of them accused confessed previously as well. So the point is, the gang is involved but you are looking at only a picture which is being painted domestically. How could someone ignore the fact that such kind of pawns are not available to be utilized against Pakistan. Surely, thakrey or Doval wouldn't be blowing themselves in Pakistan. R&AW wouldn't come on national television to address but itself is pretty much in coordination with groups like TTP/BLA/BLF etc.

I can show you even more such incidents where they make hand bombs, there is a power tussle between the RSS and communist in state called Kerala. The communist party members carried out target killing (usually with knifes and swords), tried to create a communal violence by killing a Hindu man driving a car that has sticker "Masha allah". These actions do not go up as a national security issue, but a regional political issue.

Speaking of Samjhota express, neither of those allegations were proved in court. Despite different intelligence agencies pinning the attack on Pakistan based LeT (US intel and Indian IB), the case was a political witchhunt. The case was build on coerced confessions in police stations which didn't stand in court, but gave some political mileage for the ruling congress among significant minority Muslims.

I don't know why throwing names like Doval - Tackery - Col Purohit, it's not worth replying to. Neither of them had any former connections, all of them worked in different times.

I didn't say I hear things only on national television. I have met the so called R&AW operatives while working in Mauritius. Not that I have any insider information, but the way they operate is like a classic police officer, as are many operatives.

We should not forget Aslam Achoo, the mastermind of Chinese Consulate attack in Karachi was once medically treated inside India (a hospital pictures are available) even his passport with different name was issued from Afghanistan. Also, Kalbhushan is a living example of Indian terrorism inside Pakistan and the same of Indian asset used Iranian soil to travel in, be in contact & execute plans from time to time. TTP terrorist Mehsud was intercepted by CIA inside Afghanistan while he was traveling to a specific destination but most importantly with NDS/R&AW assets and soon he ended up with Pakistan authorities where he confessed in a video about the support from India & NDS. So, I can carry on with many names & references but still, it will only matter if you are open to accept India's hands in this game.

Aslam Achoo came in with a Afghan passport and a fake name. He had a valid visa as a medical tourist.
Jadhav is a living example of how dubious your court system is. There are no evidence in public domain, all you have is a fake passport. Tell me, as a civilian what evidence do you have against KJ? Is there any witnesses, where is his charge sheet? Who was his defense attorney?

Need I remind you of the R&AW dossier you submitted to UN which probably rests in a dumpster for disposal. No country has ever cosponsored your allegation shows how much support you have, and how your allegations are viewed across the world not even China for that matter.

Making allegation to fool the public on the inability of your establishment wont cut it with international groups. That requires concrete proof and corroborations. Which Pakistan failed to make. I can give simple things, like why FATF had taken action against Pakistan and not India. Why UNSC is trying to declare Masood Azhar as global terrorist? Had any UN report remotely mentioned India with any terror group? You can't pull us down to your level, no matter how hard you try.

However, for India it is easy to blame Pakistan and create hype which actually serves in many ways like domestically creating a phobia against Pakistan under nationalism to vote while covering own incompetence to deal with the matter in Indian Occupied Kashmir, an international propaganda to malign or an attempt to isolate Pakistan.

With good reason, why terrorist in India appear in your stamps? Are they your heroes? Maybe murderers of Indians indeed are, the members in this page even celebrated Pulwama attack. Then you wonder why the world see's you the way it does.

I can give a lot of examples, from mumbai attack to OBL, Pakistan is a victim of it's own stupid plans. India do not need to Isolate Pakistan you are doing a good job isolating yourselves, just read history of Pakistan image degradation since Kargil.

Pakistan has suffered more than anyone into the hands of terrorism hence, it is better that others should think before lecturing Pakistan over terrorism and losses as such. Unfortunately, Pakistan did not opt for aggressive & effective diplomacy in past which could be due to many reasons but corruption, personal interests & sabotage being on top by the vile leadership. Current development speaks volume that Pakistan takes action without any difference when we are strong enough firstly by securing most of the border so comes the internal cleansing while dealing with any remains of those vile creatures. On other hand, India has been naming personalities and that too mostly based upon social media contents and certain pages ran by anonymous people hence, linking to Pakistan.

Yes and it's entirely your fault. Or say Zia's fault. Pakistan used to be a very forward thinking nation until Gen Zia came along. The bleed India by thousand cuts didn't go as planned. You plaid with Afghan fire you could've used post 9/11 inflows to your advantage, but alas you had other plans, buying more weapons, using the Afghans for Kashmir cause, see what happened since then.

Despite all these, you still harbor these loonies, Masood Azhar for example, your minister even have updates on his health condition.

Look at this way, how many wanted terrorists from Pakistan live in India, or how many Indian terrorists are wanted in Pakistan to how many wanted terrorists of India are in Pakistan.

 

[Arsalan 345]

national security compromised.to become weak in front of aggressor and urging him to choose path of peace is a weakness.i hope our pm will start aggressive approach because this government has failed diplomatically as well.