No need for a new province in Sindh: PM Imran Khan.

[Wow]

Karachi had a higher standard of living than the rest of Sindh even when it was full of Sindhis before partition. They never demanded a separate province. Then immigrants started pouring in from all corners of India, and few decades later, made a fake identity for themselves and started demanding a separate province. It was never an urban-rural issue, it was always an ethnic one. If you refuse to integrate, it's your problem. Not the fault of Sindhis.

Karachi used to have a high standard of living hell Pakistan used to have a high standard of living and then the bhutto's and the PPP happened to crawled out whatever mud hut

Those immigrants left everything they had for an idea called Pakistan and most of those immigrants fought for a Pakistan when not a separate province but a separate country was being created seem to forget that part

I love how every tom dick and harry in this country can celebrate there ethnic identify from the PuSHtoOns to the PuNgJAbis GilGiti SIndHi but when we Karachiats do it everyone and gets there panties in a twist C'est la vie i guess

I dont know if you live under a rock or haven't visited Karachi yet but we have successfully interrogate to Pakistani society successfully

Back to a separate province i think every province should be split up into smaller regional administrations not just Sindh for easier governance not along ethnic lines but convenience and YES Karachi should be a special administrative region

It's already like that

the whole Pakistan talk sh#t about us they all end up living here

 

[zulu]

Definitely and if they got alternate and better choice sure they gonna vote them.Those waders did not spare their own areas and did nothing for suffering of peoples there too .Its not an ethnic issue mostly corrupt vs ordinary Pakistani which kinda same story all over Pakistan

Problem is that during election season, waderas start asking money lent to poor farmers back, stop the water, threaten them to take their small acres.. and ask for votes.. poor farmers have to give in every time..

It was same in Karachi.. the modus operandi was different by MQM.. They used to threaten and kill people and spread a different kind of fear.. Army had to step in and liberated our Karachi city.. This election saw a total change.. Something of this sort is required in interior sindh..

 

[Cygnus Black]

So you are saying those who left india and settle in karachi are not pakistani? and should remain slave rather than having their own Identity. If it were Sindhi karachi would be like larkana and you would have not left the karachi or Pakistan.

It's people living in karachi who made it what karachi is by struggling and hard working otherwise check in sindh Secretariat all uneducated people sitting there. Stop playing Sindhi card here and stop your retard mentality which you think Land is belong to Sindhi because they were here in 1947. What is the problem in making province? shows the mentality you have. Those who come from india are more deserving in this sense because they left everything behind and start a new life in karachi and make karachi what karachi is today. If it wasn't PPP karachi would be develop country by now or in progress.

Pakistan was meant to be created for Muslims (and non-Muslims) living in Muslim-majority areas of British India, not for muslims of UP, Bihar or Maharastra etc. Those who left these areas for Pakistan were refugees, and should be thankful to the people of Pakistan for providing them refuge and proper Pakistani citizenship. The immigrants who settled in Punjab were more or less fully integrated and never started demanding a "separate Lahore province" for themselves. Unfortunately the same did not happen in Sindh. Here immigrants refused to integrate and even developed a completely artificial identity for themselves.
Look, I'm all for local bodies system for better governance of the cities, but the demand for a separate province is absurd and shall never be entertained.

If it wasn't PPP karachi would be develop country by now or in progress.

And we've seen what all those who demand a separate province have done to the city.

 

[PakSword]

Its not an ethnic issue mostly corrupt vs ordinary Pakistani which kinda same story all over Pakistan

That's exactly is my point.. and now since Karachiittes have been liberated out of the clutches of MQM, and have given 2/ 3rd majority to a Federal party, the expectations are quite high..

Good thing is, the city is educated, and education does wonders.. the inhabitants (both 50% Urdu speakers and 50% Non Urdu Speakers) know that the hands of the Federal party they voted for in the last elections are tied..

Karachi gives every party at least 10-15 years.. I don't see PTIs influence going away soon unless they get an alternative.. but still the expectations are high.. it is like someone is saying "OK guys I have done my part, now give me my due"...

Pakistan was meant to be created for Muslims (and non-Muslims) living in Muslim-majority areas of British India, not for muslims of UP, Bihar or Maharastra etc. Those who left these areas for Pakistan were refugees, and should be thankful to the people of Pakistan for providing them refuge and proper Pakistani citizenship.

Bro why are you saying this? I think your understanding is wrong..

And asking for a different administrative regions is not considered treachery anywhere in the world..

 

[Cygnus Black]

I don't see PTIs influence going away soon unless they get an alternative

There's TLP. ~95% of their seats in entire Pakistan came from Karachi alone. Shows how low "some" of the inhabitants can go, just to not vote for a Sindhi-dominated party in Sindh.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Delete the PPP and MQM everything will be fine then

 

[PakSword]

There's TLP. ~95% of their seats in entire Pakistan came from Karachi alone. Shows how low "some" of the inhabitants can go, just to not vote for a Sindhi-dominated party in Sindh.

Because that party has not given anything to the country, let alone the city of Karachi..

You can count TLP's seats.. but can't count 2/3rd majority Karachi has given to a Federal party..

 

[Cygnus Black]

Because that party has not given anything to the country, let alone the city of Karachi..

Then, why did millions of Karachiites voted for TLP? I thought they were "educated" and "sensible".

 

[PakSword]

Then, why did millions of Karachiites voted for TLP? I thought they were "educated" and "sensible".

O bhai kaun se elections dekh liey? 14 out of 21 seats went to PTI.. which Karachi are you talking about where MILLIONS of Karachiittes voted for TLP?

@Zibago

Bhai yeh daily ke hisaab se aarahay hain lolll

 

[Cygnus Black]

Indian immigrants in Karachi will always vote for three kinds of parties:
-Those who claim to represent immigrants (MQM/PSP or any future mutation of these)
-a "perceived" Federalist party (PTI)
-Religious party (TLP, Jamaat etc) <--- These were the go-to parties before MQM.

They HAVE NEVER and WILL NEVER vote for PPP or PMLN, despite their past track-record of sweeping across all four provinces. True federalist parties.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I think Karachi deserves better treatment.i think another province is a good idea but Sindhi will be left with nothing because there is no infrastructure and there is no progress in any field in androon e sindh.basically ppp is so corrupt that androon e Sindh looks like Mohan Jo daru.

 

[Zibago]

I can see the benefit of splitting Sindh between North and south, almost along urban and rural lines. Chalo let's wait and see.

There are benefits of splitting sindh but how do you do that when there isnt consensus on it? The best that can be done is strong local body structure

True federalist parties.

So the parties that only care about central punjab and interior sindh are true federal parties?

How many real sindhi do you see in karachi? things get worse when you bring sindhi from androni sindh having khosa khoro name in the end having no education and they sit on the upper position just because in the end of their name they have khosa or khoro.

For that we need a different kind of reform that is end of quota system Bhutto created it to get their na ahel people in offices

 

[AZ1]

Pakistan was meant to be created for Muslims (and non-Muslims) living in Muslim-majority areas of British India, not for muslims of UP, Bihar or Maharastra etc. Those who left these areas for Pakistan were refugees, and should be thankful to the people of Pakistan for providing them refuge and proper Pakistani citizenship. The immigrants who settled in Punjab were more or less fully integrated and never started demanding a "separate Lahore province" for themselves. Unfortunately the same did not happen in Sindh. Here immigrants refused to integrate and even developed a completely artificial identity for themselves.
Look, I'm all for local bodies system for better governance of the cities, but the demand for a separate province is absurd and shall never be entertained.



And we've seen what all those who demand a separate province have done to the city.

It's amazed to see who lived outside of Pakistan came with the same old thinking. So basically you are saying those who came from those part did mistake and they should become slave and live like a slave because sindhi people let them settle here. Well you have mental problem then and if it were sindhi's here it would be another larkana and country economy will be far less then what is now. This is the problem you don't want to give the right to the people living in the city and then complain they are demanding this and that.

For karachi to develop it's very important that it get rid of this sindhi play card and become province and those whom you are hating were ruling in musharraf time in karachi.

https://nation.com.pk/01-Feb-2017/karachi-s-development-took-place-only-in-musharraf-s-era-wasim

Reality you can't change that Sindhi just looted Karachi and migrated made the karachi.

 

[Zibago]

We the people of Karachi will be left at the mercy of the waderas of interior Sindh and Sindhi ghulaam quam despite giving 15 seats to PTI.

That sure sucks but its this or revival of jsqm Punjab and KPK and maybe even balochistan will get redesigned local body systems Karachi will suffer due to bad calls of Interior Sindh

I think any new system, that gives right of spending the budget in local hands, whether within or a separate province will be welcomed..

Its possible all over the country except Sindh
Pmln is already crying that new lb system is made to crush them
In Islamabad we may see lb elections next year and devolution of CDA to the new LB system

Hmm demanding a separate province equals treachery? Any reason you have to support your views?

Its not treason but marson marson card will get reactivated
PPP always punishes karachi for not voting for it

O bhai kaun se elections dekh liey? 14 out of 21 seats went to PTI.. which Karachi are you talking about where MILLIONS of Karachiittes voted for TLP?

Wut za fok bc 2 mpa ki seats theen dullah united ki

I think the best that can be done for Karachi is high concentration of federal projects that is the only way forward for Karachi if 18 amendment stays

 

[zulu]

Millions in KArachi??before claiming anything try to find some fact based truths.TLP just won 2 PS seats out 40 in KArachi due to split vote .
1)PS-107, TLP candidate Muhammad Younus received 26,248 ,opponent from PTI got 15900 and PPP got 13400 sum it
2)PS-115 TLP candidate Muhammad Qasim 21500 his opponent from PTI got 15000 and PMLN guy got 13500 thats called split vote
All data available on ECP website go and check and about your claim of just Karachi ?TLP overall votes of 21,91,679 they got 18,76,265 AROUND 85% from PUNJAB
https://dnd.com.pk/tehreek-labbaik-pakistan-received-2191679-votes-in-elections-2018/147268

Then, why did millions of Karachiites voted for TLP? I thought they were "educated" and "sensible".

@PakSword check this