No last namaz for terrorists, sympathizers: Clerics

[MastanKhan]

you forget to mention pissing on dead bodies the way american soldiers did in Afghanistan..If you want to give lesson to others then give harsh punishment to those terrorist you capture in public but abusing dead bodies dont serve any purpose and most of these sucide bombers have their bodies in pieces any way..discussion here is about whther they or their families should have this right of janaz

Hi,

Pissing on dead bodies is not big deal---piss can be washed off----.

You kids need to think----use the gray matter a little more----there is a big difference between piss and having your body chopped into small pieces and mixed with that of a chopped up dead pig or buried with a pig----.

The difference is that of between a hand grenade and a nuclear explosion.

I have another one----how about when these terrorists are in jail----put 2 or 3 wild sows in heat in their cells---.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Hi,

Pissing on dead bodies is not big deal---piss can be washed off----.

You kids need to think----use the gray matter a little more----there is a big difference between piss and having your body chopped into small pieces and mixed with that of a chopped up dead pig or buried with a pig----.

The difference is that of between a hand grenade and a nuclear explosion.

I have another one----how about when these terrorists are in jail----put 2 or 3 wild sows in heat in their cells---.

I am all for harsh punishment for those terrorists who are alive but sorry i feel you find some pleasure in abusing dead bodies and go for it and tell us if it help in eliminating terrorism or it help in creating more..A fanatic who find is ok to blow himself up will be least bother how you treat the pieces of his dead bodies. You can fulfil your wishes

 

[MastanKhan]

I am all for harsh punishment for those terrorists who are alive but sorry i feel you find some pleasure in abusing dead bodies and go for it and tell us if it help in eliminating terrorism or it help in creating more..A fanatic who find is ok to blow himself up will be least bother how you treat the pieces of his dead bodies. You can fulfil your wishes

Sir,

Price for peace is extremely brutal---and specially when fighting against those who care less for their lives and don't consider you as a person or as a human being----then you need to find ways to smash their psyche---their belief of self-righteousness----their arrogance of total and ruthlessly brutal control over your lives and livelihood.

In the old days---when the king of England punished those creating trouble----they were executed----they were brutally executed in extreme torture and public pain and then they were quartered----head put on stake at the city center and 4 limbs on a stake to different part of the country---so that people can view what happens to those who stad up against the king.

The romans had their own unique punishment---the cross---. The bone right above the ankles were broken----the wrists broken---nails in the palms nails in the feet---and then there was that little perch in the idle of the cross where the victim was seated---so that he suffers the longest in severest of the pain----the worst kind of punishment for the worst kind of criminal---from the border of france to the capital city of rome---supposedly every 50 or 100 feet---the slaves involved in the slave rebellion hung on a cross---over 6000 of them---living souls staked alive.

Price of freedom and peace is extremely high. You guys don't seem to be ready to pay for it.

 

[Hyde]

Hi,

Then et us feed them to pigs---actually let us kill some pigs and put the terrorist body and the pig body in a grinder and make mince meat out of it----and show them the recording on the TV and newsprint and flyer drop---and then let us see how many terrorists want to come ahead to blow themselves up or do the fight---.

let us see how many want to be terrorists afterwards----or let us just bury them with the bodies of pigs----. Let us do an experiment and see what happens to the soul theory of yours

That's a very innovative idea but extremist thinking in my opinion. Thankfully you are inverse to terrorist ideology otherwise this creative thinking would have surely brought you to higher ranks of TTP

I believe what you are suggesting is like putting fuel on fire and would only lead to worst examples of humanity. If you chop off their body and mince with pigs, they might start doing the same practice or even worse as they are damn good in setting the worst examples of humanity

You are thinking that they might stop after imagining their body being minced like that and what I am thinking is they will take this to one step further to avenge their minced brethren.

 

[MastanKhan]

That's a very innovative idea but extremist thinking in my opinion. Thankfully you are inverse to terrorist ideology otherwise this creative thinking would have surely brought you to higher ranks of TTP

I believe what you are suggesting is like putting fuel on fire and would only lead to worst examples of humanity. If you chop off their body and mince with pigs, they might start doing the same practice or even worse as they are damn good in setting the worst examples of humanity

You are thinking that they might stop after imagining their body being minced like that and what I am thinking is they will take this to one step further to avenge their minced brethren.

Hi,

See---just like the stupid quote from Gandhi---" an eye for an eye would make the world blind "----no it won't----you think people are that stupid that they would keep doing the same old thing knowing their eyes would be popped out---absolutely not.

What did he think that humans don't have any learning abilities----. After getting burnt the first time---why do babies stop putting their hands in the fire---they learnt that it is painful.

Same way---nobody wants their bodies to be desecrated---and for a muslim to have a minced meat pig associated burial----guy---you won't find any recruits for a 100 miles from you even if you promised them 72 beauties in this world.

 

[Mitro]

If they are Muslim they will not kill themselves and innocent people .
These body belongs to Allah and we don't have rights to destroy or harm that's why suicide is haram in Islam.
Suicide is kufr because you are giving up on allah's mercy .

Sorry but that is not order of Islam these barelvis are trying to please Modi Government. Every one who is Muslim will have Janaza

 

[Cent4]

Just, because one is born with Muslim name doesn't mean he or she is a Muslim. Islam has given us some rules to follow. One of the things almighty made it clear is you are not a Muslim if others aren't safe from you.

you, are basically saying that these pigs are following Islam and therefore are to be treated as such, and the mullahs are saying no you are not a Muslim.

1-) Namaz-e-janaza is part of the religion and we should not be changing those fundamental rules just because some barbaric lunatics are doing horrible things in the name of Islam.
2-) Only Almighty can judge and give a suitable punishment to the in the life hereafter.

So you consider the 5 Talibans who killed 147 children in Peshawar as Muslims?? and justify saying of their Namaz E Janaza?


Yeah right, got it.


If your family members were the victims of the terrorist attacks, you would'nt be saying such a ridiculous statement .

we can punish people if they are not following the rule of the land, we can even punish people who do not following the explicit teaching of Islam but we cannot say if someone is Muslim or not and deny the dead bodies the basic rights given to them in Islam.

 

[Vassnti]

Sorry but that is not order of Islam these barelvis are trying to please Modi Government. Every one who is Muslim will have Janaza

As you have pointed out no Muslim would kill inocent women of children they are all Hindu/Jewish/CIA plants set on defaming Islam and stirring up trouble so of course they wouldnt require funeral prayers

 

[RoadRunner401]

No I am not. Islam prescribes what a Muslim should do. Very few of us achieve that 100%. Many of us go on to engage in crime from the lower end to the extreme. Tell me exactly at what point on the bandwidth would you decide that xyz does not deserve Muslim funeral rites?

And who is going to decide this?

Simple...Committing crime for personal gain isn't the same as committing mass murder in the name of religion.

 

[chhota bheem]

good move,it will defenatly deter manu,terrorists are brain washed saying they will get jannath after death,so basically they are not scared of death.you kill one someone else will take his place.no last rights no heaven.nothing scares terrorists more.

there was a thread here on PDF,how the ISIS was scared to fight the female fighters of kurds.

 

[Pulsar]

Sorry but that is not order of Islam. Every one who is Muslim will have Janaza

Even the TTP terrorists who have killed thousands of innocents and Army/paramilitary personnel? Do they deserve a decent burial with all the religious trappings like reading out the 'namaz-e-janaza' after they have murdered so many?

Lets ask the troops fighting them in Zarb e azb!

Don't insult the soldiers with your rants!

 

[HariPrasad]

Clerics have done a wonderful Job. They deserve compliment for that.

 

[Zarvan]

Even the TTP terrorists who have killed thousands of innocents and Army/paramilitary personnel? Do they deserve a decent burial with all the religious trappings like reading out the 'namaz-e-janaza' after they have murdered so many?

Lets ask the troops fighting them in Zarb e azb!

Don't insult the soldiers with your rants!

I am not insulting the soldiers and actual insult to soldiers will be if they don't give Taliban Islamic Burial. Pakistan Army has honor and they treat enemy with honor so people can see the difference and understand why they are fighting against Taliban dogs.

 

[Hack-Hook]

As a secularist I am vehemantly against this on two grounds:-

1. Howsoever the wrong might be but it is not for the clerics to judge these people. Do this and your on the road to perdition. Assumption has to be made that the persons were Muslim however wrong in their ways and the alone qualifies the right to be buried according to Islamic tradition.

2. Since they are dead the question of punishment does not arise but indeed if it did that would within the realm of the state.

Of course I would support all clerics to teach their followers not to go down the road of wrongdoing.

It can be a deterant

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

We know how peaceful and law abiding the western nations are---we talk about their honesty---work ethics and truthfulness----.

But our problem is that most of us don't know HOW BRUTAL & RUTHLESS the JUSTICE SYSTEM was in Europe for even petty crimes.

Whipping---lashing---torture---hands chopped off---heads chopped off---skinned alive---loaded in ships like sardines and sent over too lands unknown---dying of disease during the voyage---rape molestation---you name it they suffered---and now nations like Holland and Belgium and Spain and Sweden----Norway and France can talk up preserving life of criminals---just look back at their histories of 70-80 years ago and you will find shocking atrocities.

Robert Ludlum writes in one of his works of fiction----so is it a fiction or is it the truth---you be the judge---as he was ex agency---someone asked him " why does the PLO not hijack Russian aircraft----he replied that PLO did one time either hijack a Russian aircraft or took Russian hostages and asked to release some PLO terrorists held in Russia in lieu----. The Russians agreed to it-----. At the place of exchange---the PLO received 6 or 8 canvas bags---when opened---they contained dead bodies of those terrorists that needed to be rescued---their throats were slit---their penises chopped off and stuck in their mouths---their ballz hacked off and stuck up their rectal cavity---". Never again a Russian aircraft ever touched.

Take the glory away from the death of a suicide bomber and you got nothing left----humiliate his sacrifice---degrade his sacrifice in the worst possible manner that is humanly possible---immerse it in so much filth and disgust that no one would want to volunteer----not even imagine about it---.