No IAF Aircraft reached Balakot

[Raider 21]

Turkey and Russians are best buddy now a days.

Turkey and Russia are not Pakistan and India. They don't share the same level of stupidity and smartness.

 

[Sine Nomine]

And one shoot down could start a war either way.

"Better to stand and fight, Run and you'll only die tired"

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Check out @ZaidZamanHamid’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100465169933705216

 

[Sine Nomine]

today i have realized why our cricket team plays so badly under pressure. today i have come to know that its not fault of the team but it is our fault as a nation. we are simply too weak mentally and cant handle pressure situations and give up hope and struggle the moment we face one set back. the response of most of the pdf members here is simply pathetic and frustrating. they have been talking against our armed forces in particularly PAF after a single slight set back although PAF did well in denying them to attack on the target but the emotional pakistanis cant understand and they fell victim to indian propaganda which even used old pakistani video for their own evil designs . today the attitude of most of the members here is just similar to the mufiqeen during the times of ghazwa uhad which muslims lost and during initial days of khandaq when Allah almighty tested the muslims to differentiate between true muslims and munafiqeen. many of the muslims with weak faith started having doubts about the Prophet during both these wars and they started talking to create frustration among the rest of the muslims against the Prophet just like many of us are talking today. testing time needs more mental strength which we seriously lack. indian people have accepted the narrative of their govt which is full of lies and deception on the other hand we have started blaming our armed forces and demoralizing the others.its shameful. we are really weak as a nation. we are boys and not men but yes there are many real men in our armed forces who are professional men and who will keep on fighting till their last breath. wars consists of many phases. sometimes you win some battles and lose some as well but it doesnt mean that the moment armed forces face some set back some people from the nation starts blaming them. today many of us are acting like munafiqeen of our uhad unfortunately but the good part is that the real men of our armed forces are there on the borders, in our skies and in our seas. I have faith in Allah, in our armed forces and in IK.

Ma sha Allah Narrative have not much changed after past many events.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Witnesses and local journalists told Al Jazeera that the Indian munitions appeared to strike a mostly uninhabited forest near the mountain village of Jaba.

"The payload was dropped near the forest in Batrasi, it is totally uninhabited," said Khalid Chaudhry, a local journalist. Two other journalists at the scene corroborated that version of events.

The Reuters news agency quoted a local villager as saying he heard four loud bangs, but that damage was limited to trees and one house.

Local residents told Al Jazeera the area was once home to a JeM training camp, but that it had been shut "years ago". They spoke on condition of anonymity, given the sensitivity of the subject.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...dian-air-raids-territory-190226162648237.html

 

[ziaulislam]

First of all nobody died. Only 1 guy was injured from sharpnel of window. Secondly only damage on ground was 3 craters and few mud houses that were damaged.

That's the whole attack by "mighty" Indian airforce

Initial bbc report was wrong about causality but it was accurate about the location and nature of strike ..it was purely based on eye witness who said one of his relatives is injured

That is not engagement in war time situation, they didn't shoot that is the problem.

If PAF had shoot down a single IAF jet then we will not be in current situation of "how to respond".

Not easy they can jump in and out in 30sec..going into india chasing them could have led us to loose aircraft

From day 1 i was saying strikes are easy noone can prevent them

 

[Basel]

Initial bbc report was wrong about causality but it was accurate about the location and nature of strike ..it was purely based on eye witness who said one of his relatives is injured


Not easy they can jump in and out in 30sec..going into india chasing them could have led us to loose aircraft

From day 1 i was saying strikes are easy noone can prevent them

Why we bought BVR missiles with range of 100kms?

 

[ziaulislam]

Why we bought BVR missiles with range of 100kms?

Bvr missle effective range is not more than 20-30km...if fire it at beyond this range it will be useless endeavor as simole tactics can defeat it

Secondly noone knew they thier their payload..such incursions happen often

The term used was non military pre emptive...what will happen next ..will this be accepted as new threshold and or will PAF respond

 

[Haris Mansoor]

Pakistan ki baato se aisa lag raha hai ..ki bache khel khel mein padosi ke ghar mein ball mardi..., padosi keh raha hai kuch nuskhan nahi howa hai ....per abb padosi bol raha hai mein badla lunga...

The problem here is that it wasn't a "khel" and the "ball" was intentionally "mari", now whether it inflict any damage or not in the "padosi's" house, the padosi has the right to return the "ball" with same malicious intents.

 

[Lincoln]

@Alternatiiv what happened to your 65 war tactics...see this incident is an example that in modern war a whole package is involved including strikers,escort and supposedly jammers as well.


Savage

Thanks for the reference
You are knowledgeable in this regard, so not really the time to argue on this, I think your input will be really useful in interpreting and dissecting the possibilities through which the incursion crossed LOC.
Apart from that,
According to ISPR they dropped their payload in open to haste out with full speed. That's the exact war tactic of 1965 I referred to.
But really, like I said, not the time or place to argue on at moment.

 

[ziaulislam]

Actually the real battle will be can we pass a UNSC resolution condemning this attack..if we can that would be a sucess story with india striking nothing and getting condemned
This from Indian ex military

 

[mingle]

And one shoot down could start a war either way.

Pak has to break this cycle we cannot satisfy india no matter what we do.Any event happens they come after us it's not the first time won't be last one. My take is we should respond them war escalation is not theior interest either but if we don't respond they will breach again and a new pattern will set no no no way at all.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

See, i still feel that we should had used our SAM systems & not let the Indians get away, they were inside our airspace for 4 minutes.

But having said that, what happened, happened, now as a nation we must be united & ready. We must trust & support our forces.

One frost doesn't make a winter....

 

[VCheng]

Witnesses and local journalists told Al Jazeera that the Indian munitions appeared to strike a mostly uninhabited forest near the mountain village of Jaba.

"The payload was dropped near the forest in Batrasi, it is totally uninhabited," said Khalid Chaudhry, a local journalist. Two other journalists at the scene corroborated that version of events.

The Reuters news agency quoted a local villager as saying he heard four loud bangs, but that damage was limited to trees and one house.

Local residents told Al Jazeera the area was once home to a JeM training camp, but that it had been shut "years ago". They spoke on condition of anonymity, given the sensitivity of the subject.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...dian-air-raids-territory-190226162648237.html

The fact remains that India has successfully demonstrated its ability to cross the LoC and deliver munitions inside Pakistan proper without loss, pretty much at will, at a carefully chosen target. That is a problem no matter how one looks at the present incident.

 

[mingle]

The fact remains that India has successfully demonstrated its ability to cross the LoC and deliver munitions inside Pakistan proper without loss, pretty much at will, at a carefully chosen target. That is a problem no matter how one looks at the present incident.

Pak has same ability as well breaching LOC happens in peace time and will happen again IAF failed and exposed by dumping theior cargo in haste.