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Decades ahead? Did you time travel forward from the 1990's?Why are we making fun of Russia? Without them we wouldn't have an airforce.
Russia is still decades ahead of China in so many areas its not even funny.
Decades ahead? Did you time travel forward from the 1990's?
Russia suffered almost a generation of brain drain from 1991 to early 2000's. It was only after oil prices skyrocketed that they were able to put some funding back into R&D. On the other hand, during those years China was experiencing double digit growth and pouring money into research. All these advanced weapons programs today are actually started during that era. While in some areas we might still be a few years behind, there is no generation gap in technology between China and Russia.
Furthermore, Russian industrial sector is a shadow of its former USSR self, while China has replaced United States as the world's largest industrial power. The backbone of technological advancement is precisely industry. Russia has now become reliant on Chinese machine tools for its manufacturing. Your post demonstrate a lack of knowledge in the progress of China it's not even funny.
It seems that the image of China being an isolated third world country still lingers, despite facts to the contrary.
so where does it state or show in that 2008 illustration that Russia's manufacturing is dependent on China?
Well, either you're blind or simply wanted to play dumb for ignoring the facts that 54% machinery and equipment imported from China and only 5% of your's exported to China in 2008. boy, you're simply hopeless.
Source please.
Chinese source, google translate adviced:
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  2010年中国机床出口快速回升,而新兴经济体和亚洲地区经济恢复则更明显。诸多国内企业已经强烈感受到南美和亚洲的市场在复苏,长机科技外贸处处长鄢志法告诉记者,他们对金砖国家机床产品出口大幅回升。2010年上半年,中国对印度的金属加工机床出口额首次超过美国,达到1.4亿美元,占中国机床出口总额的7.4%;对巴西、俄罗斯出口额增长均在80%以上,排名分别由上年的第六位和第十四位上升至第三位和第八位。东盟地区市场中,缅甸、越南、印尼、泰国和马来西亚等均进入中国出口市场的前15位,市场潜力巨大。
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That didn't say anything about Russia being dependent on China for machining tools. Zero evidence was provided. So where is the proof that Russia's manufacturing is dependent on Chinese machining tools?
When you need to fabricate parts with foreign imported machine tools, you're dependent. It is an increasing trend in the trade pattern between China and Russia, where China imports raw resources while Russia import finished products.That didn't say anything about Russia being dependent on China for machining tools. Zero evidence was provided. So where is the proof that Russia's manufacturing is dependent on Chinese machining tools?
Only because Russia has developed oil rigs for longer, and China will catch up. It's a matter of time. China has 11 times the funding for R&D compared to Russia, just behind United States. It's not if China will surpass Russia, but when. I would say we're pretty close to getting there, just need a few more years.In the oil and gas industry,chinese oil rigs are considered inferior quality.Russian and US rigs are preferred. Russia has its own machine tools for defence industries.
Chinese are real trolls here.
When you need to fabricate parts with foreign imported machine tools, you're dependent. It is an increasing trend in the trade pattern between China and Russia, where China imports raw resources while Russia import finished products.
Only because Russia has developed oil rigs for longer, and China will catch up. It's a matter of time. China has 11 times the funding for R&D compared to Russia, just behind United States. It's not if China will surpass Russia, but when. I would say we're pretty close to getting there, just need a few more years.
you have not proved that Russian defence industry is dependent on Chinese machine tools. Plus I hear a lot of complaints about chinese industrial goods and chinese machine tool quality.
And China is global manufacturer of consumer products.Almost all nations import consumer products from China.What are you trying to prove.
Plus ,russians prefer using local or german machine tools.Like recently a russian titanium component maker ordered german machine tools from MAG for production of Boeing components.
China-made advanced machine tool exported to Germany - China.org.cnAn advanced computer numerical control (CNC) machine tool was shipped to Germany from northeast China's port city of Dalian on Wednesday in the country's first export of cutting-edge equipment to a developed economy.
The high-speed five-axis vertical machining center, which consists of a numerical control system, a servo drive and an electric motor manufactured by Dalian Kede Numerical Control Co. Ltd, will be transported to Knuth Werkzeugmaschinen Gmbh, a leading global machine tools supplier based in Germany.
Our argument has nothing to do with "defence industrial" but about whether or not Russia manufacturing industrial dependent on the overall Chinese machine tools.
BTW, you can keep up with your bias so-called Chinese inferior low tech products personal rants, however eventually "facts" will speak for itself
China-made advanced machine tool exported to Germany - China.org.cn
Get a life instead of being a cheap cheerleader of your imaginary so-called Russian friend
An advanced computer numerical control (CNC) machine tool was shipped to Germany from northeast China's port city of Dalian on Wednesday in the country's first export of cutting-edge equipment to a developed economy
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/chines...has-confidence-its-hq-9s-9.html#ixzz2hCnjsdAO
BTW, you can keep up with your bias so-called Chinese inferior low tech products personal rants, however eventually "facts" will speak for itself
BTW, you can keep up with your bias so-called Chinese inferior low tech products personal rants, however eventually "facts" will speak for itself
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/chines...has-confidence-its-hq-9s-9.html#ixzz2hCo9rqjr
Our argument has nothing to do with "defence industrial" but about whether or not Russia manufacturing industrial dependent on the overall Chinese machine tools.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/chines...has-confidence-its-hq-9s-9.html#ixzz2hCoSyM9w