No conspiracy against imran khan and we don't accept Pakistan's neutrality: Ukrainian ambassador to Pakistan

[Baghial]

We do not accept Pakistan's neutrality. It is tantamount to fueling the conflict.
Hopefully, Pakistan will join the anti-war coalition (against Russia).
The Army Chief of Pakistan took a bold stand.
"No one has hatched any conspiracy against Imran Khan."

Statements by Ukrainian Ambassador Markian Chuchak in a interview on Aaj News

So countries will dictate us on our foreign policy
This is what happens when GHQ runs it's own foreign policy apart from Foreign office undef prime minister

How this guy is praising COAS but dictating us about PM imran Khan stance of neutrality.


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only idiots believe , that immi de dim, was ousted by amriki consipiracy,,

 

[Dalit]

They both killed Muslims.

So please spare me the nonsensical annointment of the Russians over the Americans. Pakistan did not ask the Russians to invade Afghanistan..they did that all by themselves. And when they did that, they killed far more Afghans than the Americans were able to in 16 years of their occupation. I know this does not jive with the current narrative in Pakistan but Russians have done plenty of killings of Muslims. Forget Afghans and Pakistanis who died (in our tribal areas), it was just recently when thousands of Syrians were killed by Russian missile and air strikes all over that poor country. Idiots here were singing praise of the Russians and their Bath party murderers.

Perhaps you were not around 1979 onwards but I vividly remember Russian bombing campaigns not only inside Afghanistan, but also into Pakistan's tribal areas.

Stop ignoring Pakistan's role in choosing the Western camp over Russia during the Cold War. Even long before the Cold War Pakistani leaders have always opted for the West over Russia. India has always played it smartly and never put their eggs in one basket. Today India enjoys good relations with both Russia and the West. Pakistan got hammered by US/NATO during WoT. American drones have killed countless innocent Pakistanis. Russia has always sought good relations with Pakistan after independence. The Pakistani leaders have never reciprocated. This is common knowledge.

 

[blain2]

Stop ignoring Pakistan's role in choosing the Western camp over Russia during the Cold War. Even long before the Cold War Pakistani leaders have always chosen the West over Russia. India has always played it smartly and never put their eggs in one basket. Today India enjoys relations with both Russia and the West.

So it was Pakistan's role in the western camp that led your heroic Russians to fight a war of survival in Afghanistan?

Try again.

 

[Dalit]

So it was Pakistan's role in the western camp that led your heroic Russians to fight a war of survival in Afghanistan?

Try again.

A silly fairy tale invented by the Americans to feed BS to the masses. Afghans themselves were divided and many were aligned with the Russians.

Doesn't make a difference though. That is history now. What matters is that America is a bigger threat to Pakistan today than Russia could ever be. The people understand that Pakistan would be better off if it invested in cordial relations with Russia. Russia didn't intiate regime change in Pakistan. America did. Despite Russian friendship with India I would rate Russia a better ally for Pakistan than any Western country. Western nations are literally in bed with India and willing to walk over Pakistan to appease India. I have seen a more balanced approach from Russia in this regard. The Russians don't even come close to polishing Indian boots as the Americans have polished them.

You belong to a dying breed of Pakistanis who still choose for the US camp. The F-16 generation won't exist in a decade or so. Bajwa is the last pro USA COAS that has shown his true colors to the masses. He will be discarded unceremoniously.

 

[blain2]

A silly fairy tale invented by the Americans to feed BS to the masses. Afghans themselves were divided and many were aligned with the Russians.

Doesn't make a difference though. That is history now. What matters is that America is a bigger threat to Pakistan today than Russia could ever be. The people understand that Pakistan would be better off if it invested in cordial relations with Russia. Russia didn't intiate regime change in Pakistan. America did. Despite Russian friendship with India I would rate Russia a better ally for Pakistan than any Western country. Western nations are literally in bed with India and willing to walk over Pakistan to appease India. I have seen a more balanced approach from Russia in this regard.

You belong to a dying breed of Pakistanis who still choose for the US camp. The F-16 generation won't exist in a decade or so.

So America has been a "bigger" (let's just make it the biggest!) threat to our amazing Pakistan for the last 60 years, right? And in that very time they have not only threatened us with close to $40B in economic aid but also depleted our military strength by providing us more military technology than most other countries in South Asia put together.

During the very same time, those amazing friends of ours, i.e. the Russians, helped us how? Oh yes, I remember, the mighty Steel Mills in KHI and then a fleet of MI-8 and exactly 4 Mi-24 helicopters. Let's also remember how those nasty Americans tried to unfairly upset the Indians by threatening to send their aircraft carrier to the Bay of Bengal all the while our dear friends the Russians were back-filling Indian losses and vetoing resolutions to end Indian aggression against us. Such dear friends they were, are indeed!

And now that we are in need of financial support, the nasty Americans are promising us more of the IMF poison, all the while our bosom-buddies the Russians have opened up their financial coffers very benevolently along with their entire military armory for us to pick and choose from. ;-)

Dying breed indeed! Thanks for the mighty vote of confidence from you.

Soon you will be left with your own echo-chamber where everyone just agrees with you and your worldview.

 

[Dalit]

So America has been a "bigger" (let's just make it the biggest!) threat to our amazing Pakistan for the last 60 years, right? And in that very time they have not only threatened us with close to $40B in economic aid but also depleted our military strength by providing us more military technology than most other countries in South Asia put together.

During the very same time, those amazing friends of ours, i.e. the Russians helped us how? Oh yes, I remember, the mighty Steel Mills in KHI and then a fleet of MI-8 and exactly 4 Mi-24 helicopters. Let's also remember how those nasty Americans tried to unfairly upset the Indians by threatening to send their aircraft carrier to the Bay of Bengal all the while our dear friends the Russians were back-filling Indian losses and vetoing resolutions to end Indian aggression against us. Such dear friends they were, are indeed!

And now that we are in need of financial support, the nasty Americans are promising us more of the IMF poison, all the while our bosom-buddies the Russians have opened up their financial coffers very benevolently along with their entire military armory for us to pick and choose from. ;-)

Dying breed indeed! Thanks for the mighty vote of confidence from you.

Soon you will be left with your own echo-chamber where everyone just agrees with you and your worldview.

It is too late for such arguments. The people are bitterly opposed to US meddling in Pakistan. The US has truly exposed itself after the latest regime change debacle. Pakistanis want an independent foreign policy. Pakistanis want a government in charge of foreign affairs. Pakistanis don't want a COAS making and breaking governments at the request of Americans. Pakistanis don't want a COAS trained and selected by the Americans.

You are right. The F-16 breed is dying in Pakistan. Bajwa can sit this one out.

 

[xyxmt]

Says one retard who destroyed his country for U.S. promises, just like our retard General

 

[Signalian]

They both killed Muslims.

So please spare me the nonsensical annointment of the Russians over the Americans. Pakistan did not ask the Russians to invade Afghanistan..they did that all by themselves. And when they did that, they killed far more Afghans than the Americans were able to in 16 years of their occupation. I know this does not jive with the current narrative in Pakistan but Russians have done plenty of killings of Muslims. Forget Afghans and Pakistanis who died (in our tribal areas), it was just recently when thousands of Syrians were killed by Russian missile and air strikes all over that poor country. Idiots here were singing praise of the Russians and their Bath party murderers.

Perhaps you were not around 1979 onwards but I vividly remember Russian bombing campaigns not only inside Afghanistan, but also into Pakistan's tribal areas.

You missed out Chechens

 

[blain2]

It is too late for such arguments. The people are bitterly opposed to US meddling in Pakistan. The US has truly exposed itself after the latest regime change debacle. Pakistanis want an independent foreign policy. Pakistanis want a government in charge of foreign affairs. Pakistanis don't want a COAS making and breaking governments at the request of Americans. Pakistanis don't want a COAS trained and selected by the Americans.

You are right. The F-16 breed is dying in Pakistan. Bajwa can sit this one out.

Regime change joke you mean?

Americans don't give a damn about IK or NS or anyone else because Pakistan isn't that important anymore. Your man, IK, was going to the IMF the same as the chap in the office right now (and I would support both of them in doing so!) Pakistan's economic survival is inextricably linked with the IMF. Its just that our awam, as always, is kept ignorant about what makes Pakistan run. What sells in Pakistan, more than education and logic, is poisonous propaganda and the west/amreeka is always ripe for that despite the fact that the majority of Pakistanis would have no qualms about going and working over there and sending money back from the West to their loved ones or taking advantage of the educational opportunities etc. etc.

As an experiment, perhaps we should learn to see ourselves from the lens of Afghans who we look upon as ingrates because despite getting help/assistance from us, they always bad-mouth us. This is what we, as Pakistanis, come across to others in the West who have tried to help us in the past. They did not always have insincere motives about helping us, but over time they too wisened up yet our poisonous view of them has remained constant. Over time, perceptions became reality on both sides and such is life.

Like idiots running from one camp to another has never worked for Pakistan, yet our nation is incapable of understanding such things. We are too emotional to realize that we need to learn to make hay while the sun shines. Looking ahead, Pakistan should stay aligned with all sides and this includes the Americans. If others are managing it, then we need to find a way to do it as well. But perhaps this type of thinking is a "dying breed" and we should continue to plunge into camp politics (this time with Russia!) despite being ravaged by it over the past 60 years.

Lastly, American training to this day makes a difference, as does the military equipment in our use. No ifs and buts about this and I can put money on this despite the political rhetoric by the anti-American lobby in Pakistan.

You missed out Chechens

Thank you!

 

[Signalian]

A silly fairy tale invented by the Americans to feed BS to the masses. Afghans themselves were divided and many were aligned with the Russians.

Doesn't make a difference though. That is history now. What matters is that America is a bigger threat to Pakistan today than Russia could ever be. The people understand that Pakistan would be better off if it invested in cordial relations with Russia. Russia didn't intiate regime change in Pakistan. America did. Despite Russian friendship with India I would rate Russia a better ally for Pakistan than any Western country. Western nations are literally in bed with India and willing to walk over Pakistan to appease India. I have seen a more balanced approach from Russia in this regard. The Russians don't even come close to polishing Indian boots as the Americans have polished them.

You belong to a dying breed of Pakistanis who still choose for the US camp. The F-16 generation won't exist in a decade or so. Bajwa is the last pro USA COAS that has shown his true colors to the masses. He will be discarded unceremoniously.

Guess who started the trend ?

Soon after independence, Pakistan’s founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah asked the US, in a letter sent with his emissary, for $2 billion in military and financial aid, including $170 million for the army, $75 million for the air force, $60 million for the navy, and $700 million each for industrial and agricultural development.

 

[nangyale]

Bajwa won't last long. His time is up.

He has already activated his pets the TTP. Wait till you see all the chaos of TTP, TLP and the rest unleashed.
Pakistanis would be begging Bajwa to stay in power forever.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

We do not accept Pakistan's neutrality. It is tantamount to fueling the conflict.
Hopefully, Pakistan will join the anti-war coalition (against Russia).
The Army Chief of Pakistan took a bold stand.
"No one has hatched any conspiracy against Imran Khan."

Statements by Ukrainian Ambassador Markian Chuchak in a interview on Aaj News

So countries will dictate us on our foreign policy
This is what happens when GHQ runs it's own foreign policy apart from Foreign office undef prime minister

How this guy is praising COAS but dictating us about PM imran Khan stance of neutrality.


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Bajwa: we dont believe in camp politics.

Meanwhile pti fanboys: ghaddar amreeka ki godh main baith gaya

 

[Acetic Acid]

Bajwa: we dont believe in camp politics.

Meanwhile pti fanboys: ghaddar amreeka ki godh main baith gaya

He is no authority to decide this

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

He is no authority to decide this

Yes you want authority of a politician whose slip of tounges make obl shaheed and adorned. Seriously wtf . God knows if he did it for local consumption and politics. A politician can't have this authority. Resopnsibility comes with authority.
He has some years of power.. when he is gone someone else comes.
Army as an institution stays and retians the policy.

 

[Acetic Acid]

Yes you want authority of a politician whose slip of tounges make obl shaheed and adorned. Seriously wtf . God knows if he did it for local consumption and politics. A politician can't have this authority. Resopnsibility comes with authority.
He has some years of power.. when he is gone someone else comes.
Army as an institution stays and retians the policy.

Politicians are not immatures
And neither men in inform are intelligent enough to decide the policy of Pakistan
Those who entitled themselves as custodians of Pakistan should stop this circus now.

You can't sell this Chooran anymore that only amry thinks good for country
Everyone else is not trustable

Let the people decide
Public got the independence through their movement not men in uniform though fighting war of liberation