No Chinese companies in India's 5G trials

[Suriya]

Just out of curiosity, can you tell me how cheap is the Indian 4g? Because it is pretty cheap in Pakistan too. There are many plans (not unlimited as far as I know) but 20gb under USD 6 is available.

Not just that, I have broadband internet which is 250Mbps/250Mbps upload/download for which I pay around USD 32/month which is also upgraded to 500/500 for 8 hours every day (2:00AM to 10:00AM).

4G data plan with 1GB/day and unlimited talks n SMS for 24 day- 149Rs or 2$

Broadband 250MBps plan- 920Rs + taxes = 15$-20$

Rs 1299
GO TO STORE
Key Features

1. Name :- GOLD
2. Validity :- 30 days
3. Data :- 500 GB
4. Post Fup Speed :- 1 Mbps
5. Data Speed :- 250 Mbps
6. Extra Data :- 250 GB
7. Voice eCalling :- Free Voice calls anywhere in India

PS: I personally uses BSNL 100MBps plans which costs around 12$ per month.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

You do not have key technologies. Some others have, but you do not.

We will learn. Not everyone has to steal and learn. Chinese manufacturing prowess was built by Western companies in the first place. Chinese learnt. That's it. And later built over it. Being humble would do very well.

 

[jk007]

It's going to happen in couple of years.

And don't compare with HSR network as land acquisition costs in India is huge, sometimes more than half of the project cost and India being democracy can't evict people at whim as they do in China, but telecommunication totally different game.

To give u a sample of digital revolutions in India:

https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/banking-finance/digital-payments-india-pips-china-us-others-in-2020-leads-global-tally-with-this-many-transactions/2226074/

a) Is it really true that the number of digital payments in India > the number of digital payments in China? I read somewhere that some cities in China do not have / have very little cash transactions. I read that some thieves broke into a large store in China, and found that it does not have any cash as all transactions are digital.
b) I believe all digital payments are real-time? Isn't that correct?

Chinese members - please answer as well.

Indians seem to mistook 'opennes' for you know what.

They seem to believe that talking can easily substitute for doing.

For example, they brag about India being service-based economy, with lots of Indians lazily drooling in cozy offices, yet, China is a much bigger service exporter. Even Russia has major brands like Yandex known globally.

Sir - Please be assured. Chinese economic development / economy is far far far advanced than India. There is really no comparision. Credit to you.
Everyone who has really observed some chinese development will agree. No shame in agreeing to that.

The question is - will Indians agree to the bullying that China is doing? The answer is NO.

 

[Stranagor]

We will learn. Not everyone has to steal and learn. Chinese manufacturing prowess was built by Western companies in the first place. Chinese learnt. That's it. And later built over it. Being humble would do very well.

You are a slow learner obviously. The West even does not bother to build anything in India. 90% of China's investment has come from northeast Asian countries. Where does India get investment? I guess, in English language which you learned from your masters, the best memorized is the future tense.

This is a no brainer. India will not and should not depend on the Chinese vendor for the next generation telecommunication equipment for obvious reasons. It would only be news if Huawei was invited.

Ericsson will have an advantage in India. Followed by Nokia and then Samsung for a much smaller part. Indian companies are non existent in this space. The Indian CSPs are mostly listed only to fund infrastructure. I will not count them as technology providers.

It should also be noted that 5G tech is way more expensive than 4G infrastructure. At best, I think Indian CSPs can only afford 5G for a few cities at this point. Even then, I doubt if there will be a practical business use case for 5G tech in India for the next 5 years. So progress can afford to be slow

Good luck. You will be not just slow, but inefficient.

Russia cooperates with Huawei. Along with 90+ countries.

 

[Mav3rick]

4G data plan with 1GB/day and unlimited talks n SMS for 24 day- 149Rs or 2$

Broadband 250MBps plan- 920Rs + taxes = 15$-20$

Rs 1299
GO TO STORE
Key Features

1. Name :- GOLD
2. Validity :- 30 days
3. Data :- 500 GB
4. Post Fup Speed :- 1 Mbps
5. Data Speed :- 250 Mbps
6. Extra Data :- 250 GB
7. Voice eCalling :- Free Voice calls anywhere in India

PS: I personally uses BSNL 100MBps plans which costs around 12$ per month.

It is more or less the same as in Pakistan. By the way, the broadband plan I explained earlier is true unlimited; I have downloaded TB's in a single month on this connection. So USD 32/month for a true unlimited/uncapped 250mbps connection (which is bumped up to 500mbps for 8 hours every night) is still pretty good.

 

[Cheehg]

To give u a sample of digital revolutions in India:

https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/banking-finance/digital-payments-india-pips-china-us-others-in-2020-leads-global-tally-with-this-many-transactions/2226074/

It is another perfect example India media feeding feel good news again.
China's digital payment transaction was more than 62 billions in 2020. Where did this media get this 15 billions number?

Mobile payments in China: How China became a cashless society

Over 943 million individuals actively use mobile payments in China as of June 2023 and the country leads the global trend with a 38.3% mobile payments penetration rate.

daxueconsulting.com

 

[艹艹艹]

Will India say goodbye to 5Gi?
13 DECEMBER 2021

India's locally developed next-generation standard, known as 5Gi, has been the cause of some concern among operators, hardware vendors, chipmakers and smartphone manufacturers, many of which were worried that it would be mandatory for 5G deployment in the country. Now it appears that is not going to happen.

In fact, according to Indian news reports, 5Gi is now set to be merged with the 3GPP 5G standard under a compromise formula between the opposing approaches supported by the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) and the country’s Telecommunication Engineering Centre (TEC).

In a meeting last week, the TEC, which, among other roles, is responsible for the drawing up of standards, made clear its opposition to the idea of the new version of 5G, citing technology fragmentation and interoperability issues. Now there is to be a merger, covered, we are told, by 3GPP Release 17.

The 5G Radio Interface Technology (RIT) initiative – known as 5Gi – seems to have largely originated from the Telecommunications Standards Development Society, an autonomous, membership-based, standards development organization with a focus on meeting India-specific telecom/ICT needs, based on research and innovation in India.

There had, however, been intense pushback from the telecommunications industry, led by such major names as Qualcomm, Ericsson, Nokia and Huawei, along with local industry group the Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI).

There had been hopes from some of its proponents that 5Gi standards would be made mandatory for Indian telecom service providers. However, with no 5Gi ecosystem developed, let alone tested, operators, and inevitably consumers, might suffer the consequences of limited equipment options.

In fact it’s hard to see how an untried India-specific standard could be positive news for international roaming, let alone chipsets, phones and networks. However, this may no longer be an issue.

The details of the standards merger are not too clear yet, but it does now seem as though 5Gi will not be pursued – at least not in the form originally intended.