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If u had any IQ, u would know evicting someone at moments notice isn't exactly sign of democracy. In India people have rights they have right to own property from which they can't be easily disenfranchised. They can legal recourse which takes years to resolve.
ah yes your so much more democratic then australia. I guess its democratic when a superhighway can not be built so millions can go to work if one farmer decides that he doesn't want to sell land? You display typical low indian IQ...very sad that you only know how to cheat at tests and pretend you have brains.

this is why your country can not even build toilets for its people. keep drinking ur shots of urine mr democracy
 
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It's going to happen in couple of years.

And don't compare with HSR network as land acquisition costs in India is huge, sometimes more than half of the project cost and India being democracy can't evict people at whim as they do in China, but telecommunication totally different game.

To give u a sample of digital revolutions in India:


Of course, Indians are always talking about the future, such as superpower 2020 and so on.
Unlike what you think, the Chinese govt will not forcibly drive the people away.
I can understand that rats in Indian slums can only understand China through Indian newspapers.


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And don't compare with HSR network as land acquisition costs in India is huge, sometimes more than half of the project cost and India being democracy can't evict people at whim as they do in China, but telecommunication totally different game.


If India's plan had nothing to do with land, would it succeed? No, it also has no precedent for success. For example, Arjun tank, Tejas fighter, etc.
 
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Chinese tech in key infrastructure is simply not possible.

Every country who let them in is regretting it, except the usual cheerleaders.

This gives an excellent opportunity for domestic companies to capture the entire market.

Which every country? US and its allies/dominions? I think they hardly represent every country.

Besides, if not China, India will source it from someone else. So, no, India won't have truly domestic 5G infrastructure.
 
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What sour grapes? India going to spend more money on infrastructures and slower progress while zero merit on quality.

China are more than happy not to help enemy like India. Even your rail minister asking China to rejoin the HSR which we of course reject.

Its now a more of India need China than we need India. if all China Boring Tunnel withdraw. India tunnel project will doomed or hold ransom of huge fee by Japanese and German.
Then why is Chinese desperately pushing their companies. Giving out stupid warnings against removing Chinese companies from trials. Whatever you people think, your government does the opposite. But hey like I said, kicking China out of any possible profit is in our interest after all who wants to make an unreliable commie state like China getting more money.
 
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If India's plan had nothing to do with land, would it succeed? No, it also has no precedent for success. For example, Arjun tank, Tejas fighter, etc.
Everything changes with time, nothing remains same.

Chinese people no longer ride bicycles wearing loose blue jackets and trousers like they did till early 90s when China's GDP per capital was less than Pakistan , do they?


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I think you should wait for India to succeed at least once before replying to me.
By success, I mean to achieve success according to the planned time and budget like China.
No need. Success is a relative term. Every economy grows and expands leaps and bounds those who are friends with the said country stand to benefit from it, and those who aren't will have to look for other avenues. Chinese are burning down its success and showing its hands too early. Being cocky will not get you anywhere and you're bound to make more enemies down the line.
 
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Then why is Chinese desperately pushing their companies. Giving out stupid warnings against removing Chinese companies from trials. Whatever you people think, your government does the opposite. But hey like I said, kicking China out of any possible profit is in our interest after all who wants to make an unreliable commie state like China getting more money.

Every country promotes their companies. Yet, kicking out nowhere to be seen other than low-end industries leaving. But, they still do not go to India. China desires high-end investment. I am sure the largest FDI receiver and trading country in the world has a certain power to dictate its terms.
Everything changes with time, nothing remains same.

Chinese people no long ride bicycles wearing loose blue jackets and trousers like they did till early 90s when China's GDP per capital was less than Pakistan , do they?


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India is very much the same, if not worse. It will be a further uphill battle because you need to compete smarter countries like Vietnam.
No need. Success is a relative term. Every economy grows and expands leaps and bounds those who are friends with the said country stand to benefit from it, and those who aren't will have to look for other avenues. Chinese are burning down its success and showing its hands too early. Being cocky will not get you anywhere and you're bound to make more enemies down the line.

I guess a lot of smaller countries sharing border with India finds China's development liberating - from fascist India. I expect China to make further inroads.
 
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Every country promotes their companies. Yet, kicking out nowhere to be seen other than low-end industries leaving. But, they still do not go to India. China desires high-end investment. I am sure the largest FDI receiver and trading country in the world has a certain power to dictate its terms.
You're talking gibberish. Chinese companies are kept away for good, it's not about promoting homegrown companies but specifically targeting Chinese companies because keeping them out is in our interest in key technologies like 5G.
 
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You're talking gibberish. Chinese companies are kept away for good, it's not about promoting homegrown companies but specifically targeting Chinese companies because keeping them out is in our interest in key technologies like 5G.

You do not have key technologies. Some others have, but you do not.
 
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If there was ever a period that India's democratic advantage was supposed to give you an overall (or even localized) edge over China, that period has long gone. People like you have been saying that consistently for decades. But the gap between India and China in all development indexes is growing wider. It's always Indians who are the most steadfast at predicting China's imminent doom. How else can one cope when the differences in development are that wide apart, considering China even started off with a LOWER base than you. You should really be quiet and work hard to improve your country, like a true Asian

India always looks at all the systems adopted by the world and chooses the worst aspects out of all of them. Your country is a hyperplutocracy more than a democracy. And when a plutocracy competes with a meritocracy like China, it'll always lose. China has a closed political system but open minds. India has an open political system but incredibly closed minds.

Your manufacturing has stagnated. You tried to leapfrog into high-end services and advanced manufacturing (which can't even compete globally, unlike China) without addressing very basic but critical shortcomings. All the wealth that has poured into your country in the past 20 years was used to create relatively higher-paying jobs, mostly in the service industry. It attracts a small majority of your workforce, leaving the rest as literal shit pickers. If you look at 50% of your country (700 MILLION people), their income barely improved adjusting for inflation. Whereas the top 5% has skyrocketed. And Sanghi's likes to portray that as an amazing achievement. Manufacturing as a % of GDP in India has gone down. Indian wages and the cost of living near major urban areas are already way too high. What makes you think you'll receive a sudden manufacturing boom this decade?

While your GNI is comparable to that of China in 2007, you do not have the mechanisms to achieve the growth rate they have achieved in that period, year after year, decade after decade. In 2007, China had a 90%+ literacy rate, no mass hunger, high schooling rates, and a populace that's vastly more educated than present-day India.

Even places like Bangladesh are far better managed than the big clusterfuck of India. As an example, if 100 crore of foreign money enters India, it'll end up paying for maybe 1000 software engineers/tech folks. Which would be fine if you lived in a half-developed country, but you don't. Your country still employs people who carry human fecal matter on top of your heads, even in government jobs.

In Bangladesh, that money will go to 50,000 textile or factory workers instead. Like it did in China, virtually all developing Asian countries. That 50,000 workers create way more GDP, as they would use that money to buy rice, cloaths, beef, toilet paper, etc than the 1000 higher-paid tech coolies in India, who would use that money to buy (most likely a CHINESE) cellphone. If you had 1L in your hand right now, you would create far more economic activity if you distribute it to 10 poor families. They will use it to buy local essentials, support local business, multiply GDP growth, as opposed to buying a Xiaomi (and then flooding the internet with anti Chinese comments).

And this is why "chaddi stitchers" overtook you in per capita income, something you folks struggle to accept. Bangladesh's GDP increased 3.7 times from 2010, without any fancy infrastructure, foreign investment, and low-value industries/exports. India, in spite of "make in India", billions in FDI, mega infrastructure projects, increased 1.7 times. China increased its GDP 2.6 times in that period, and it had a much higher base, to begin with.

And when Induistrilisation finally happens in Bangladesh, it'll have a much firmer foundation than the half-arsed approach you have in India. As it did in virtually all developing Asian countries

A country that gets overtaken by the likes of Bangladesh shouldn't shit-talk countries like China.
 
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If there was ever a period that India's democratic advantage was supposed to give you an overall (or even localized) edge over China, that period has long gone. People like you have been saying that consistently for decades. But the gap between India and China in all development indexes is growing wider. It's always Indians who are the most steadfast at predicting China's imminent doom. How else can one cope when the differences in development are that wide apart, considering China even started off with a LOWER base than you. You should really be quiet and work hard to improve your country, like a true Asian

India always looks at all the systems adopted by the world and chooses the worst aspects out of all of them. Your country is a hyperplutocracy more than a democracy. And when a plutocracy competes with a meritocracy like China, it'll always lose. China has a closed political system but open minds. India has an open political system but incredibly closed minds.

Your manufacturing has stagnated. You tried to leapfrog into high-end services and advanced manufacturing (which can't even compete globally, unlike China) without addressing very basic but critical shortcomings. All the wealth that has poured into your country in the past 20 years was used to create relatively higher-paying jobs, mostly in the service industry. It attracts a small majority of your workforce, leaving the rest as literal shit pickers. If you look at 50% of your country (700 MILLION people), their income barely improved adjusting for inflation. Whereas the top 5% has skyrocketed. And Sanghi's likes to portray that as an amazing achievement. Manufacturing as a % of GDP in India has gone down. Indian wages and the cost of living near major urban areas are already way too high. What makes you think you'll receive a sudden manufacturing boom this decade?

While your GNI is comparable to that of China in 2007, you do not have the mechanisms to achieve the growth rate they have achieved in that period, year after year, decade after decade. In 2007, China had a 90%+ literacy rate, no mass hunger, high schooling rates, and a populace that's vastly more educated than present-day India.

Even places like Bangladesh are far better managed than the big clusterfuck of India. As an example, if 100 crore of foreign money enters India, it'll end up paying for maybe 1000 software engineers/tech folks. Which would be fine if you lived in a half-developed country, but you don't. Your country still employs people who carry human fecal matter on top of your heads, even in government jobs.

In Bangladesh, that money will go to 50,000 textile or factory workers instead. Like it did in China, virtually all developing Asian countries. That 50,000 workers create way more GDP, as they would use that money to buy rice, cloaths, beef, toilet paper, etc than the 1000 higher-paid tech coolies in India, who would use that money to buy (most likely a CHINESE) cellphone. If you had 1L in your hand right now, you would create far more economic activity if you distribute it to 10 poor families. They will use it to buy local essentials, support local business, multiply GDP growth, as opposed to buying a Xiaomi (and then flooding the internet with anti Chinese comments).

And this is why "chaddi stitchers" overtook you in per capita income, something you folks struggle to accept. Bangladesh's GDP increased 3.7 times from 2010, without any fancy infrastructure, foreign investment, and low-value industries/exports. India, in spite of "make in India", billions in FDI, mega infrastructure projects, increased 1.7 times. China increased its GDP 2.6 times in that period, and it had a much higher base, to begin with.

And when Induistrilisation finally happens in Bangladesh, it'll have a much firmer foundation than the half-arsed approach you have in India. As it did in virtually all developing Asian countries

A country that gets overtaken by the likes of Bangladesh shouldn't shit-talk countries like China.

Indians seem to mistook 'opennes' for you know what.

They seem to believe that talking can easily substitute for doing.

For example, they brag about India being service-based economy, with lots of Indians lazily drooling in cozy offices, yet, China is a much bigger service exporter. Even Russia has major brands like Yandex known globally.
 
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This is a no brainer. India will not and should not depend on the Chinese vendor for the next generation telecommunication equipment for obvious reasons. It would only be news if Huawei was invited.

Ericsson will have an advantage in India. Followed by Nokia and then Samsung for a much smaller part. Indian companies are non existent in this space. The Indian CSPs are mostly listed only to fund infrastructure. I will not count them as technology providers.

It should also be noted that 5G tech is way more expensive than 4G infrastructure. At best, I think Indian CSPs can only afford 5G for a few cities at this point. Even then, I doubt if there will be a practical business use case for 5G tech in India for the next 5 years. So progress can afford to be slow 🙂
 
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India gives cheapest 4G internet of all the countries in the world.
In next two to three years India will give cheapest 5G internet. :)

Just out of curiosity, can you tell me how cheap is the Indian 4g? Because it is pretty cheap in Pakistan too. There are many plans (not unlimited as far as I know) but 20gb under USD 6 is available.

Not just that, I have broadband internet which is 250Mbps/250Mbps upload/download for which I pay around USD 32/month which is also upgraded to 500/500 for 8 hours every day (2:00AM to 10:00AM).
 
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