No Atomic Race After Iranian Bomb

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

I was born in Iran and I do love the culture of people who created that great nation.

But I always ask myself, why am I so proud? what did I do to be proud?
I was born in that land by chance, I did not do anything to be persian. what If I was a black person?
what if I was a person from a country with no good culture? would that make me a lesser of a person?

If we are gonna talk about who is better than who, lets first say what we as individuals did to make our country great and why are we proud? this applies to you all.

I am not saying don't be proud, I am saying try to understand that before we are persian or jordanian, we are most of all humans.

 

[Arian]

I was born in Iran and I do love the culture of people who created that great nation.

But I always ask myself, why am I so proud? what did I do to be proud?
I was born in that land by chance, I did not do anything to be persian. what If I was a black person?
what if I was a person from a country with no good culture? would that make me a lesser of a person?

If we are gonna talk about who is better than who, lets first say what we as individuals did to make our country great and why are we proud? this applies to you all.

I am not saying don't be proud, I am saying try to understand that before we are persian or jordanian, we are most of all humans.

Actually people on this forum who know me and read my posts know that I'm not into nationalism or things like that. I'm not an ultra-nationalist and I'm not an anti-Arab either. This guy, I mean blackeage, is overly obsessed with insulting Iran. He threatened that he would remind us our past, the fact is that our past is one of the glorious ones of the mankind. Iran is internationally recognized as one of the most sophisticating and richest civilizations. So he needs to know what he's talking about, especially if he wants to do the comparison, he'll understand that the past of Iran is way beyond his limited sight.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Even if you see it that way, you can't use Islam against us, because it's a common thing between us and we've contributed to Islam much more than many of you Arabic states. Many of the prides of the Islamic empire wouldn't be achieved without the contribution of Persians. Only countries like Egypt and Iraq can claim that they've contributed to Islam more than Iran but almost all independent historians verify that Persia hugely contributed to science and art in Islam and Persian was the second language of the Islamic empire after Arabic, while many of the ancient civilizations that were defeated by Islam lost their language and culture, but we didn't lose anything, we contributed with passion to Islam.



I don't know how much you know about Iran, but we built Persepolis, and if you want to know more, just have a look at the UNESCO world heritage sites in Iran, you'll see what we have built. lol.

My friend you live in a fictional world. Anyway we have discussed this point extensively and I think it got cleared up.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/166736-strongest-empires-timeline.html

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Actually people on this forum who know me and read my posts know that I'm not into nationalism or things like that. I'm not an ultra-nationalist and I'm not an anti-Arab either. This guy, I mean blackeage, is overly obsessed with insulting Iran. He threatened that he would remind us our past, the fact is that our past is one of the glorious ones of the mankind. Iran is internationally recognized as one of the most sophisticating and richest civilizations. So he needs to know what he's talking about, especially if he wants to do the comparison, he'll understand that the past of Iran is way beyond his limited sight.

My comment was not aimed at you my bro, I was saying that in general.
If we love our nation, then lets do something great for our nation.
then we can be proud.

If he is making false remarks, then leave him, why do you reply? you think if he chooses to be blind he will change by your comments?
I made that peace thread so we could talk in a mature way, so I hope our jordanian friend is willing to talk in a way where we can both be happy.

 

[Arian]

My friend you live in a fictional world. Anyway we have discuss this point extensively and I think it got cleared up.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/166736-strongest-empires-timeline.html

The one who lives in a fictional word is you, you just need to get educated, maybe you're still too young to know such things, you'll learn things when you grow up, maybe it's still soon for you.

My comment was not aimed at you my bro, I was saying that in general.
If we love our nation, then lets do something great for our nation.
then we can be proud.

If he is making false remarks, then leave him, why do you reply? you think if he chooses to be blind he will change by your comments?
I made that peace thread so we could talk in a mature way, so I hope our jordanian friend is willing to talk in a way where we can both be happy.

I'm talking in a mature way, nowhere in my posts you see any personal attacks, name calling or insulting sentences.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Actually people on this forum who know me and read my posts know that I'm not into nationalism or things like that. I'm not an ultra-nationalist and I'm not an anti-Arab either. This guy, I mean blackeage, is overly obsessed with insulting Iran. He threatened that he would remind us our past, the fact is that our past is one of the glorious ones of the mankind. Iran is internationally recognized as one of the most sophisticating and richest civilizations. So he needs to know what he's talking about, especially if he wants to do the comparison, he'll understand that the past of Iran is way beyond his limited sight.

Am I obsessed with my past or you who always belittle others histories and even ethnicity? You don't call others with rude words as you did in the first page of this thread.

 

[Arian]

Am I obsessed with my past or you who always belittle others histories and even ethnicity? You don't call others with rude words as you did in the first page of this thread.

Where did I belittle others' histories or ethnicity?
When did I call you with rude words?

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

what is the problem here?
BLACKEGLE just say what is the problem?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

what is the problem here?
BLACKEGLE just say what is the problem?

The main problem here is that Iranians get to understand that I have nothing toward Iranian people, its just political differences and you guys turned it to Persian ethnicity and history superiority over others as well as personal attacks which compelled us to follow the same way in our replies. There are people here I don't like and I say that to them directly, but I have nothing toward you guys.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

The main problem here is that Iranians get to understand that I have nothing toward Iranian people, its just political differences and you guys turned it to Persian ethnicity and history superiority over others as well as personal attacks which compelled us to follow the same way in our replies. There are people here I don't like and I say that to them directly, but I have nothing toward you guys.

Persian are the most sensitive people when it come to culture.
this thread is not going to do anything except carry of being a more hateful discussion.

this X verses Y never works, because we both love our countries. in some extend our arrogance takes over this discussion.
this is true of ALL of us. I used to be very arrogant and I though Persian culture was much better than everyones but I eased up a bit.

what you need to understand is that the west tries making our culture look like crap, just look at 300.
if you were in our shoes, you would also be very protective. because we see it as a duty to remind people of our great past and contribution.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Persian are the most sensitive people when it come to culture.
this thread is not going to do anything except carry of being a more hateful discussion.

this X verses Y never works, because we both love our countries. in some extend our arrogance takes over this discussion.
this is true of ALL of us. I used to be very arrogant and I though Persian culture was much better than everyones but I eased up a bit.

what you need to understand is that the west tries making our culture look like crap, just look at 300.
if you were in our shoes, you would also be very protective. because we see it as a duty to remind people of our great past and contribution.

I understand that. But it still had nothing to do with what we have been talking about for almost a month. If we have peace here, it will not hide the ugliness on the ground. I don't know when this would end.

 

[Arian]

The main problem here is that Iranians get to understand that I have nothing toward Iranian people, its just political differences and you guys turned it to Persian ethnicity and history superiority over others as well as personal attacks which compelled us to follow the same way in our replies. There are people here I don't like and I say that to them directly, but I have nothing toward you guys.

Nope. That's not true, it's you that always start it. I've seen your comments on other topics as well but I refrained from replying back because I didn't have the time and I didn't want to start a flame war, but your anti-Iranian comments aren't only limited to political differences. That's for sure.

Persian are the most sensitive people when it come to culture.
this thread is not going to do anything except carry of being a more hateful discussion.

this X verses Y never works, because we both love our countries. in some extend our arrogance takes over this discussion.
this is true of ALL of us. I used to be very arrogant and I though Persian culture was much better than everyones but I eased up a bit.

what you need to understand is that the west tries making our culture look like crap, just look at 300.
if you were in our shoes, you would also be very protective. because we see it as a duty to remind people of our great past and contribution.

Nope. 'Mast mali nakon'. It has nothing to do with what you said. This guy wanted to challenge me by saying he would remind us our past, it's very simple, our past is one of the most glorious ones of the mankind and the past he's talking about, mainly the Islamic empire, would've never been created as glorious as it was without the very important contributions of Persians in science and art. so if he's looking for a dick measuring contest, he can have it. If not, then it was only a misunderstanding.

 

[The SC]

Everybody seems to have forgotten about the Saudi Prince minister(HRH Prince Turki Al Faisal Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud) talking about seeking and acquiring nuclear bombs to counter Israel, not Iran .

"Our efforts and those of the world have failed to convince Israel to abandon its weapons of mass destruction, as well as Iran... therefore it is our duty towards our nation and people to consider all possible options, including the possession of these weapons," Faisal told a security forum in Riyadh.

Now they have added "as well as Iran" to the original article, but it is a very stupid addition since it does not fit there;
Please reread the first sentence and try to fit Iran in there.

http://www.iiss.org/conferences/eu-non-proliferation-and-disarmament-conference/speeches/second-plenary-session/prince-turki-al-faisal/

Please listen to the speech, he says also Iran (diplomacy not to hurt western Zionist sensitivities), a few seconds later he says the truth that Iran was a regional member state against the proliferation of WMD.

 

[Mosamania]

Nope. That's not true, it's you that always start it. I've seen your comments on other topics as well but I refrained from replying back because I didn't have the time and I didn't want to start a flame war, but your anti-Iranian comments aren't only limited to political differences. That's for sure.



Nope. 'Mast mali nakon'. It has nothing to do with what you said. This guy wanted to challenge me by saying he would remind us our past, it's very simple, our past is one of the most glorious ones of the mankind and the past he's talking about, mainly the Islamic empire, would've never been created as glorious as it was without the very important contributions of Persians in science and art. so if he's looking for a dick measuring contest, he can have it. If not, then it was only a misunderstanding.

ALL of our differences is just a huge sack of misunderstandings. Don't you get it?? Both of our people refuse to meet each other half way.

None of us like the way things are going now and the political differences but at least in this forum we can talk in a way of mutual respect. lately the forum has become a much better place and I think we both agree to that.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Nope. 'Mast mali nakon'. It has nothing to do with what you said. This guy wanted to challenge me by saying he would remind us our past, it's very simple, our past is one of the most glorious ones of the mankind and the past he's talking about, mainly the Islamic empire, would've never been created as glorious as it was without the very important contributions of Persians in science and art. so if he's looking for a dick measuring contest, he can have it. If not, then it was only a misunderstanding.

I am not bro, I have not even read your conversations, that is why I asked him what is the problem.
who ever denies the importance of our culture is an idiot.
we are one the most important culture in history.

why do you need other people to say we have a good culture for us to feel good?

Its like if a girl comes to you and says you're handsom, you will feel good. if she said you're ugly we will be upset.

but I would not give a damn what she says. it about what you think.

what does it mean to be persian?