next lal masjid ?masood azhar madrasa bahawalpur

[Ajit Kumar]

No. Lesser Jihad (Armed Struggle) is only allowed for defensive purposes. You cannot first invade a non-Muslim territory to begin with and then claim Jihad when these non-Muslims fight back

But this is what is going on. It has happened in History too. Can not you see that. And it is even supported by almost muslims around the world. What should be the solution ?

 

[gau8av]

First Masood Azhar is from Deoband school of thought not Wahabi. Secondly its bahawalpur one of the most beautiful yes hot but still beautiful cities of the world.

curious, what school of thought are you from ?

 

[Norwegian]

Jihad with weapons is most rewarding HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW have told it several times I can quote hundreds of Ayats and Hadees here.

Yes with preconditions. First, its gotta be declared a 'Holy War' by united religious authority such as a Caliph. Since we have no institution of Caliphate since the fall of Ottoman Caliphate, one cannot declare Holy War against the infidels and thus claim "rewards" per Hadith by doing violent Jihad

Secondly Muslim Armies are to do Jihad world wide where ever Muslims are oppressed and Islam is attacked.

We have no longer any Muslim army. What times are you living in? 7th Century?
What we have now are national armies of 57 or so Muslim majority countries . They consist of Muslims and non-Muslims alike as non-Muslims also are nationals of many Muslim countries.

ISIS and others are born when Muslim Armies fail to do their job.

Again, BS. There is no such thing as "MUSLIM" army.

 

[Zarvan]

curious, what school of thought are you from ?

I was Sufi but than after research now call my self Salafi.

 

[QARAMATIANS]

First Masood Azhar is from Deoband school of thought not Wahabi. Secondly its bahawalpur one of the most beautiful yes hot but still beautiful cities of the world.

Bahawalpur may be beautiful city of the world no doubt but Masood Azhar is an ugly Terrorist who brainwash your country's youth.

Do you agree ?

Don't lie its Ramzan

 

[Zarvan]

Yes with preconditions. First, its gotta be declared a 'Holy War' by united religious authority such as a Caliph. Since we have no institution of Caliphate since the fall of Ottoman Caliphate, one cannot declare Holy War against the infidels and thus claim "rewards" per Hadith by doing violent Jihad


We have no longer any Muslim army. What times are you living in? 7th Century?
What we have now are national armies of 57 or so Muslim majority countries . They consist of Muslims and non-Muslims alike as non-Muslims also are nationals of many Muslim countries.


Again, BS. There is no such thing as "MUSLIM" army.

Jihad can be declared without Caliphate. Muslim countries and their leaders have authority to declare Jihad. It's in fact their prime responsibility.

Bahawalpur may be beautiful city of the world no doubt but Masood Azhar is an ugly Terrorist who brainwash your country's youth.

Do you agree ?

Don't lie its Ramzan

No he is not a terrorist Indian propaganda doesn't make him one.

 

[Norwegian]

But this is what is going on. It has happened in History too. Can not you see that. And it is even supported by almost muslims around the world. What should be the solution ?

Deislamization is the only solution to that. After US conquered Nazi Germany, it denazified everything. And look at Germany today.
Denazification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was Sufi but than after research now call my self Salafi.

And after some "research" (see religious indoctrination), you will call yourself a Salafist Jihadi:
Salafi jihadism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jihad can be declared without Caliphate. Muslim countries and their leaders have authority to declare Jihad. It's in fact their prime responsibility.

No they can't. Only someone with united religious authority (such as MUFTI AZAM) can declare Jihad. Not individual governments.

No he is not a terrorist Indian propaganda doesn't make him one.

Then what is he? Is he a peace-loving saint bent on delivering 72 virgins to his followers for free?

 

[QARAMATIANS]

Jihad can be declared without Caliphate. Muslim countries and their leaders have authority to declare Jihad. It's in fact their prime responsibility.


No he is not a terrorist Indian propaganda doesn't make him one.

Then you have no problem accepting that Afghan Taliban are not terrorists ?

 

[Zarvan]

Deislamization is the only solution to that. After US conquered Nazi Germany, it denazified everything. And look at Germany today.
Denazification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And after some "research" (see religious indoctrination), you will call yourself a Salafist Jihadi:
Salafi jihadism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No they can't. Onlysomeone with united religious authority (MUFI AZAM) can declare Jihad. Not individual governments.


Then what is he? Is he a peace-loving saint bent on delivering 72 virgins to his followers for free?

Yes they can and they have to its only way to end militancy by liberating Muslim lands through Armed Forces.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes they can and they have to its only way to end militancy by liberating Muslim lands through Armed Forces.

It would lead to a perpetual state of war between "peaceful" Muslim countries and non-Muslims. Aren't you having enough of 1400 years of war? Syria is gone, Iraq is devastated, Yemen is ruined, Palestine is erased. Want more liberations?

Then you have no problem accepting that Afghan Taliban are not terrorists ?

Don't you get @Zarvan already? He is a peace loving Salafi Jihadi. For him, any Muslim militant is not a terrorist as long it's fighting against the infidels

 

[QARAMATIANS]

Yes they can and they have to its only way to end militancy by liberating Muslim lands through Armed Forces.

LAMO

what "Muslim land"

Russia occupy Chechnya and Uyghur are under the occupation of China .... Then why do you buy Weapons from them ?

 

[Zarvan]

It would lead to a perpetual state of war between "peaceful" Muslim countries and non-Muslims. Aren't you having enough of 1400 years of war? Syria is gone, Iraq is devastated, Yemen is ruined, Palestine is erased. Want more liberations?

Well than non Muslims has to leave Muslim lands they leave us alone we leave them alone but if they don't than Muslims states duty is to declare Jihad and liberate Muslim lands in modern days its issues like Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya.

LAMO

what "Muslim land"

Russia occupy Chechnya and Uyghur are under the occupation of China .... Then why do you buy Weapons from them ?

Unfortunate but they remain Muslim land and failure of Muslim governments will only end up turning these areas violent hot spots which has to be avoided.

 

[Norwegian]

Well than non Muslims has to leave Muslim lands they leave us alone we leave them alone but if they don't than Muslims states duty is to declare Jihad and liberate Muslim lands in modern days its issues like Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya.

Ok. Lets get started then. What is your definition of a Muslim land? If by Muslim land, you mean a land where Muslims happened to have a majority, then Spain, Portugal, Circassia (Russia) were once Muslim lands as well, until they were forcibly expelled from those lands. Should Muslim religious leaders of today now declare violent Jihad against those infidel governments for something that happened centuries ago?

 

[QARAMATIANS]

It would lead to a perpetual state of war between "peaceful" Muslim countries and non-Muslims. Aren't you having enough of 1400 years of war? Syria is gone, Iraq is devastated, Yemen is ruined, Palestine is erased. Want more liberations?


Don't you get @Zarvan already? He is a peace loving Salafi Jihadi. For him, any Muslim militant is not a terrorist as long it's fighting against the infidels

Brother define infidel ?

Their are some Mosque/Madarsa in Pakistan who openly calls for violence against Shiyas,Ahmadia,Hazaras and distribute sweets when a terrorist incident happen against them.

So people like Masood Azhar trained people to not only fight against Indians in Kashmir but also against Pakistanis Because the wahabi money comes with a OBLIGATION to target every minority be it in India or Pakistan.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Well than non Muslims has to leave Muslim lands they leave us alone we leave them alone but if they don't than Muslims states duty is to declare Jihad and liberate Muslim lands in modern days its issues like Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya.


Unfortunate but they remain Muslim land and failure of Muslim governments will only end up turning these areas violent hot spots which has to be avoided.

What is a "Muslim Land" and which land is "Non Muslim Land"?