next lal masjid ?masood azhar madrasa bahawalpur

[Ajit Kumar]

Those instances you've mentioned may not have come to my attention. I refer you to my post on Hindus in Pakistan and I was defending their right to live in dignity.

Again, your manipulative self can't resist himself in attributing the above mentioned quotes to others. For the record, I don't believe in ''Ethnic-cleansing'' of any race/religion. That is something the Indians are experts at! If I did, I would say so, but I don't! Do you think I care what you think?

I'm curious to know where did you get the quotes from? Never heard of them, or are you just making them up? If not. give me the source and don't give me some blog!

Ohho ? Of course it will never come to your notice because you are blind in the hatred for Hindus. Google ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pundits. you will get 1000 of sources where you can see these slogans and many more. . you are simply being selective. when Pundits suffer, you remained silent and now you are crying fowl ? when you were oppressing pundits its ok, now when it is your turn, you are crying fowl ? You have supported ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pundits. Now its your turn.

 

[Salik]

Ohho ? Of course it will never come to your notice because you are blind in the hatred for Hindus. Google ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pundits. you will get 1000 of sources where you can see these slogans and many more. . you are simply being selective. when Pundits suffer, you remained silent and now you are crying fowl ? when you were oppressing pundits its ok, now when it is your turn, you are crying fowl ? You have supported ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pundits. Now its your turn.

Who the idiot said if you wanted to live in Kashmir/Pakistan you had to convert first. Whoever say that first kick him out of Kashmir/Pakistan.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Who the idiot said if you wanted to live in Kashmir/Pakistan you had to convert first. Whoever say that first kick him out of Kashmir/Pakistan.

They are the ones who kicked Kasmiri Pundits. When we start kicking them, they cried fowl. Just google that. you will find.

 

[Rahi812]

They are the ones who kicked Kasmiri Pundits. When we start kicking them, they cried fowl. Just google that. you will find.

You are missing one big part of the history. Indian occupation of Kashmir and then marginalizing the Kashmiri's came up with this reaction. They started targeting the Kashmiri pandits. By the way, I am not sure how much Kashmiri Muslims targeted the Pandits and how much RAW played its role and thus created atmosphere against Kashmiri Muslims.

Now the only solution for Kashmir is both country has to withdraw from Kashmir. I think Kashmir should be given independent status like Bangladesh.

 

[Shamain]

Not sure about whom you are refering to, these militants freed are thriving in Pakistan, and absolutely reflects the psyche of Pakistani state.

So mukti Bahini's were terrorists? How many suicide bombs, how many hotel bombings, how many bus station bombings, how many grenedes were lobbed in markets by Mukti Jhoddas? How many Mukti Bahini or Rokhha Bahini cadets are blowing themselves around the world? How many nations declared Mukti Bahini fighters as terrorists? - Use a little bit of logic before commenting.

Now
Let me ask you a very simple question.....

Do you endorse the view, that Masood Azhar should be a free individual allowed to thrive in Pakistan?

So much dumbness!!!!! Who made u a TTA???

A whole war was fought against their own state Pakistan by these indian backed bengali terrorists and here this man asks were any grenades lobbed, how many bhani terrorists blew themselves up!!!!!!!

The predicted answer for this question will be another question....... "Do you endorse the view tha.t Terrorist Modi should allowed to be PM of India"......

Thats how life goes here mate.....

And ur answer will be do u know the reason why riots started???

OH MAAAAAIIII GAWWWWWWHHDDDDD!!!!!

 

[MilSpec]

So much dumbness!!!!! Who made u a TTA???

A whole war was fought against their own state Pakistan by these indian backed bengali terrorists and here this man asks were any grenades lobbed, how many bhani terrorists blew themselves up!!!!!!!

Well, idiots like you cannot understand the difference between an self inflicted insurgency and unilateral state sponsored terrorism. As this is well beyond your comprehension, go play with someone on your plane. Cherry on top is people defending scumbags like massoud azhar and questioning my intellect in the same breath. wow.

 

[Shamain]

Well, idiots like you cannot understand the difference between an self inflicted insurgency and unilateral state sponsored terrorism. As this is well beyond your comprehension, go play with someone on your plane. Cherry on top is people defending scumbags like massoud azhar and questioning my intellect in the same breath. wow.

When idiots like urself fail to see ur own state's admissions regarding sponsoring ,funding terrorist mukhti bhani which u indians choose to call insurgency then i dont have much to say. Self inflicted my foot.

And oh yea mukhti bhani was insurgency for terrrorism lovers but kashmir insurgency is sponsered terrorism for them. So much self contradiction cud only be seen amongst u indians.

And no need to cry like a banshee before me. Test ur histrionic skills elsewhere.

 

[Norwegian]

And then some say Jihad is "misinterpreted". Islam is all perfect and so on...
@TankMan @syedali73

 

[Zarvan]

And then some say Jihad is "misinterpreted". Islam is all perfect and so on...
@TankMan @syedali73

Yes it is many times if some western puppets want to lie and remain in delusional mindset no body can do anything about it. Jihad is part of Islam but it has strict rules in Jihad only enemy forces and leaders can be hit not civilians those who harm civilians deliberately are doing harm to cause of Islam. Jihad is mainly responsibility of state and its Armed Forces, but most Muslim states are ruled by corrupt western puppets, or Jihad is being conducted through proxies which over all is not a good idea. Finally Muslim countries need to wake up and they need to announce Jihad and liberate Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya from hands of Kuffar than it would be easy for them to eradicate groups like ISIS and TTP and Al Qaeda. As for western slaves known as seculars and liberals they are born to lie and they will keep lying to please western masters.
@syedali73 @TankMan @Gufi @ajpirzada @Arsalan

 

[syedali73]

Yes it is many times if some western puppets want to lie and remain in delusional mindset no body can do anything about it. Jihad is part of Islam but it has strict rules in Jihad only enemy forces and leaders can be hit not civilians those who harm civilians deliberately are doing harm to cause of Islam. Jihad is mainly responsibility of state and its Armed Forces, but most Muslim states are ruled by corrupt western puppets, or Jihad is being conducted through proxies which over all is not a good idea. Finally Muslim countries need to wake up and they need to announce Jihad and liberate Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya from hands of Kuffar than it would be easy for them to eradicate groups like ISIS and TTP and Al Qaeda. As for western slaves known as seculars and liberals they are born to lie and they will keep lying to please western masters.
@syedali73 @TankMan

Jihad can only be declared by the government and not by individuals. If the government is corrupt, bring a better government. Islam does not permit to resort to violence even against a corrupt government unless majority of Muslims have made 'bait' on the hand of another Khalifa. In-fact there is a hadith on this and Rasool Allah (PBUH) has said that in the presence of a Khalifa, if another lays claims for Khilfah, slay him.

In a nutshell, I do not agree with what you are suggesting. Corrupt or not, private armed militias are not allowed no matter how noble a cause they wanted to fight for.

 

[Zarvan]

Jihad can only be declared by the government and not by individuals. If the government is corrupt, bring a better government. Islam does not permit to resort to violence even against a corrupt government unless majority of Muslims have made 'bait' on the hand of another Khalifa. In-fact there is a hadith on this and Rasool Allah (PBUH) has said that in the presence of a Khalifa, if another lays claims for Khilfah, slay him.

In a nutshell, I do not agree with what you are suggesting. Corrupt or not, private armed militias are not allowed no matter how noble a cause they wanted to fight for.

I also said it's not a good idea but failure of state is creating space, so when Muslims are being killed around the world many Muslims want to do something about it and when they look at governments they only see cowards staring at them and because of that they lean towards militant groups.

 

[nair]

And ur answer will be do u know the reason why riots started???

OH MAAAAAIIII GAWWWWWWHHDDDDD!!!!!

Have asked it couple of times...... But the interesting part is, I am yet to get a reply....... You can, if you want to.....

 

[Norwegian]

Jihad is part of Islam but it has strict rules in Jihad only enemy forces and leaders can be hit not civilians those who harm civilians deliberately are doing harm to cause of Islam.

Violent Jihad is only part of political Islam, not the religion of Islam. In religion of Islam, Jihad is all about inner struggle to defy sins and to do good honourable deeds. Unfortunately, for looney losers like you, Jihad has been confined to its violent prospects only.

Jihad is mainly responsibility of state and its Armed Forces, but most Muslim states are ruled by corrupt western puppets, or Jihad is being conducted through proxies which over all is not a good idea.

Sure. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc are ruled by Western puppets. Aren't the same countries funding ISIS Jihad in Syria?

Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of radical Islam'

Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of radical Islam' - Telegraph

Finally Muslim countries need to wake up and they need to announce Jihad and liberate Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya from hands of Kuffar than it would be easy for them to eradicate groups like ISIS and TTP and Al Qaeda.

Sure. But first these same "Muslim" countries gotta kill Shiites and Sunnis on mass as it's already happening in Syria, Iraq, Yemen for decades. The "winners" will then go on and start killing Kafirs for "liberation"

Jihad can only be declared by the government and not by individuals. If the government is corrupt, bring a better government. Islam does not permit to resort to violence even against a corrupt government unless majority of Muslims have made 'bait' on the hand of another Khalifa. In-fact there is a hadith on this and Rasool Allah (PBUH) has said that in the presence of a Khalifa, if another lays claims for Khilfah, slay him.

How can there even be one Caliph in Islam, when Shiites denounce the whole institution of Caliphate, and the sunnis can't even agree one true caliph? Remember ISIS Caliphate? How many Muslims worldwide have done Bai'at on his hands?

In a nutshell, I do not agree with what you are suggesting. Corrupt or not, private armed militias are not allowed no matter how noble a cause they wanted to fight for.

Agreed. Armed militias gave birth to violent Jihad and it only helped in tarnishing the religion of Islam in the world.

I also said it's not a good idea but failure of state is creating space, so when Muslims are being killed around the world many Muslims want to do something about it and when they look at governments they only see cowards staring at them and because of that they lean towards militant groups.

So when Muslims are killed by other Muslims all around the world, where goes your violent Jihad? Why is you so-called Jihad only activated when Muslims are killed by non-Muslims, as it's happening in Kashmir, Palestine, Burma and so on. Why not declare violent Jihad against Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis who actively fund ISIS, Hamas? Why not declare violent Jihad against Iran, Syria who openly finance Hezbollah?

 

[Shamain]

Jihad can only be declared by the government and not by individuals. If the government is corrupt, bring a better government. Islam does not permit to resort to violence even against a corrupt government unless majority of Muslims have made 'bait' on the hand of another Khalifa. In-fact there is a hadith on this and Rasool Allah (PBUH) has said that in the presence of a Khalifa, if another lays claims for Khilfah, slay him.

In a nutshell, I do not agree with what you are suggesting. Corrupt or not, private armed militias are not allowed no matter how noble a cause they wanted to fight for.

A human coud only tolerate oppression upto a point . After a certain point the pvt militia might end up reacting. But our issue is they all grow on ideologies that later harm our own country. True worst thing on plant is misusing the term jihad for any purpose

حکومت کی غلطی
Bhi hai

 

[Zarvan]

I also said it's not a good idea

Violent Jihad is only part of political Islam, not the religion of Islam. In religion of Islam, Jihad is all about inner struggle to defy sins and to do good honourable deeds. Unfortunately, for looney losers like you, Jihad has been confined to its violent prospects only.


Sure. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc are ruled by Western puppets. Aren't the same countries funding ISIS Jihad in Syria?

Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of radical Islam' - Telegraph


Sure. But first these same "Muslim" countries gotta kill Shiites and Sunnis on mass as it's already happening in Syria, Iraq, Yemen for decades. The "winners" will then go on and start killing Kafirs for "liberation"


How can there even be one Caliph in Islam, when Shiites denounce the whole institution of Caliphate, and the sunnis can't even agree one true caliph? Remember ISIS Caliphate? How many Muslims worldwide have done Bai'at on his hands?


Agreed. Armed militias gave birth to violent Jihad and it only helped in tarnishing the religion of Islam in the world.


So when Muslims are killed by other Muslims all around the world, where goes your violent Jihad? Why is you so-called Jihad only activated when Muslims are killed by non-Muslims, as it's happening in Kashmir, Palestine, Burma and so on. Why not declare violent Jihad against Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis who actively fund ISIS, Hamas? Why not declare violent Jihad against Iran, Syria who openly finance Hezbollah?

Jihad with weapons is part of Islam one of the most important and one of the most rewarded. Jihad has strict guidelines most important is that civilians can't be targeted and also their property until and unless its being used as base camp to hide or attack Muslims. Jihad is responsibility of state and their failure has created space which is being filled by militants. Muslims states and its leadership has to wake up and shun the cloak of cowardness and declare Jihad and liberate Muslim lands like Palestine and Kashmir and Chechnya. Your denial of Jihad just exposed you and who you really are ? their was a little confusion early on but it's cleared now.
@syedali73 @Gufi

A human coud only tolerate oppression upto a point . After a certain point the pvt militia might end up reacting. But our issue is they all grow on ideologies that later harm our own country. True worst thing on plant is misusing the term jihad for any purpose

حکومت کی غلطی
Bhi hai

Governments failure to not to do declare Jihad and do it through their Armed Forces not militant groups is damaging cause of Jihad, until and unless they wake up and start doing their duty as Muslim leaders defeating rogue militant groups is impossible.