News from Bangladesh-Updates and Discussion

[U-571]

now seems like bangla has same pakistan like democracy!!, LOL!!, congratulations

 

[robincrusoe]

India pins hope on 'friend' Hasina's second innings

31 Dec 2008, 0027 hrs IST, TNN


NEW DELHI: There was cautious optimism in India as the Sheikh Hasina-led Awami League stormed back to power in Bangladesh on Tuesday. The Grand Alliance led by Awami League won a landslide victory in the general elections which marked the country's return to multi-party democratic system after two years.

Hasina has always been looked upon as a friend in India and it was during her tenure (1996-2001) that New Delhi enjoyed its most cordial relations with Dhaka. The country was under emergency rule for the past two years and while India always favoured return to democracy, it managed to strike a working relationship with Dhaka during this period which helped it curb use of Bangladeshi soil for terrorist activities.

India, however, is hopeful that Hasina will go one step further and ensure that no anti-India activity is carried out there. "India congratulates the people of Bangladesh on the fair, peaceful and free conduct of their general elections which mark the return to multi-party democratic politics in a close and friendly neighbour.

The historic victory of the Awami League and the Grand Alliance led by Sheikh Hasina is a major landmark in democratic politics in South Asia. The people of Bangladesh have spoken with one voice to reiterate their faith in the democratic process and their desire for development and progress," a foreign ministry statement said.

Fortunately for India, the hardline Jamat-e-Islami, an ally of Khalida Zia's BNP, was almost wiped off in the elections. It could win only two seats as opposed to 20 in 2001.
"India and Bangladesh share common values, a commitment to democracy and a multi-faceted historical relationship, in every field of human endeavour. India looks forward to working closely with the newly elected government in Bangladesh to further stren-gthen our bonds of friendship and cooperation in the quest for peace and development," the statement said.

With terrorism in the region a pressing concern, specially after the Mumbai attacks, Sheikh Hasina's victory will bring some comfort to New Delhi as she took tough steps against the anti-India militant groups when she was in power in the mid-1990s. In contrast, there was a sharp spike in militancy and Islamic fundamentalism during Zia's tenure.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh congratulated Hasina over telephone saying, ''India looks forward to working with the government and the people of Bangladesh in the years ahead for the mutual benefit of the people of the two countries."

Foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee said he hoped the new government will deal more effectively with terrorism and see it as a problem that didn't affect India alone.

India pins hope on 'friend' Hasina's second innings-South Asia-World-The Times of India

 

[idune]

India pins hope on 'friend' Hasina's second innings

31 Dec 2008, 0027 hrs IST, TNN

Foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee said he hoped the new government will deal more effectively with terrorism and see it as a problem that didn't affect India alone.

Translation indian dictation on Hasina has already started....from Pranab statement he seems to be moving to export terrorism to Bangladesh.

 

[robincrusoe]

Translation indian dictation on Hasina has already started....from Pranab statement he seems to be moving to export terrorism to Bangladesh.

Twisted minds...Twisted logics

 

[leonblack08]

There is difference between policy level matter and street corner issue. It clearly shows your incapability of understanding amd making argument.

It is the only way to get out of trouble,by saying your is adversary is incapable of understanding anything.I understand man,don't cry.

F-7BG has much more firepower with full suite of armament then mig without any. Any people with 2 cent understanding would know.

F-7 BG better than Mig-29??Is it the biggest joke of the year??
You are making lame excuses mr.Know it all.As far as I know R-73,R-27 and R-77 are used in BAF.Which is enough.
Migs form the backbone of our air force.
Just because you saw pictures of Mig-29s with no missiles does not mean we do not use any.Who knows may be you saw Mig-29UB the trainer version of mig-29,BAF has 2 of these.
Furthermore,F-7 BG and Mig-29 both have different roles.
F-7 BG is air guard and Mig-29 is for air supremacy and exceptional in dog fighting.So comparing them at first place is a mistake.

 

[idune]

only anti freedom guys, who were against independence will think India as a threat I feel. India is Bangladesh's friend and respects it. Long Live the Friendship!

And an indian has authority to decide and mark who is not for Bangladeshi freedom? And yet call such authority over Bangladesh and Bangladeshi independence as “independence”?

indian controlling and hegemonic agenda could not be more vivid.

More striking is that Awami folks here gladly accepted indian control over us. Goes to show Awami selling out the country people was afraid of already been started.

 

[Raquib]

Translation indian dictation on Hasina has already started....from Pranab statement he seems to be moving to export terrorism to Bangladesh.

I heard Hasina on the television that, her govt would form "South Asian Task Force" which would be dealling with the terrorist organization across the South Asia region...whats your oppinion regarding this matter???

 

[leonblack08]

Its not problem working in UN mission. Its problem when they become over jealous for money. They will even do anything including discard primary mission of protecting the country.

Indian army has not shown that trait and deeply loyal to their primary mission of protecting their country.

You are totally unaware of things around.

We have only 9 thousand troops in UN missions.It is good for them because they are getting money,new equipment which are not included in Army budget and last and most important of all,they are gaining experience.
If you don't have the capabilities to understand these matters then refrain from commenting on these matters.

 

[ahmeddsid]

It is the only way to get out of trouble,by saying your is adversary is incapable of understanding anything.I understand man,don't cry.





F-7 BG better than Mig-29??Is it the biggest joke of the year??
You are making lame excuses mr.Know it all.As far as I know R-73,R-27 and R-77 are used in BAF.Which is enough.
Migs form the backbone of our air force.
Just because you saw pictures of Mig-29s with no missiles does not mean we do not use any.Who knows may be you saw Mig-29UB the trainer version of mig-29,BAF has 2 of these.
Furthermore,F-7 BG and Mig-29 both have different roles.
F-7 BG is air guard and Mig-29 is for air supremacy and exceptional in dog fighting.So comparing them at first place is a mistake.

Mig 29 is a 4th gen fighter! Its better than F7 which is a chinese copy of the Mig 21 anyday, even when its not flying lol!!!!! Now who in their right minds would compare Mig 21 with Mig 29???? Leon u r bang on Bro!

 

[leonblack08]

what is this ? You are saying that Bangladesh Army is more interested in UN missions than securing your country?

I dont know about Bangladesh UN involvement , but I am sure max to max a few thousand army men would be away on UN missions. Rest all would be in your country.So I dont think it really weakens your defence.

It seems that you have a differing security perception from them.
Someone who is sitting in US(your location is written as US) knows more and cares more about security of Bangladesh than its army officers?They who are educated and trained in defence affairs have a poor grasp of Bangladeshi security? One or two officers might be wrong, some actions may be debatable, but saying a whole institution is not comitted is too strong a charge.

Self-righteousness has its limits

You are right man.

This man idune most probably lacks knowledge about BD and I don't blame him as he is so far from the country.

BD army has more than 150000 troops and only 9000 are on UN mission.In which way BD's security is threatened??
To me since BD is one of the top contributors to UN,so if any country invades BD which has very little chance,UN will definitely support BD.

@Idune

You talk about India attacking BD.If it happens then who will save your country??It will be our brave Army,not YOU.So stop criticising army for whatever reasons you have.I know your reason is political because most BNP supporters are saying Army helped AL to victory.

 

[leonblack08]

Mig 29 is a 4th gen fighter! Its better than F7 which is a chinese copy of the Mig 21 anyday, even when its not flying lol!!!!! Now who in their right minds would compare Mig 21 with Mig 29???? Leon u r bang on Bro!

Unfortunately some people just don't try to understand that.

 

[idune]

It is the only way to get out of trouble,by saying your is adversary is incapable of understanding anything.I understand man,don't cry.

F-7 BG better than Mig-29??Is it the biggest joke of the year??
You are making lame excuses mr.Know it all.As far as I know R-73,R-27 and R-77 are used in BAF.Which is enough.
Migs form the backbone of our air force.
Just because you saw pictures of Mig-29s with no missiles does not mean we do not use any.Who knows may be you saw Mig-29UB the trainer version of mig-29,BAF has 2 of these.
Furthermore,F-7 BG and Mig-29 both have different roles.
F-7 BG is air guard and Mig-29 is for air supremacy and exceptional in dog fighting.So comparing them at first place is a mistake.

Its not the discussion about the role of fighters which you alluding to. It was and is the FACT that Awami league bought something just to deceive people of their defense commitment. You are so desperately trying to mask Awami wrong doing with gibberish.

R-77 or R27, these missile were bought by later government NOT by Awami one. Show us the proof otherwise.

And no one compared two types of aircraft. it was facts regarding purchasing. Don’t caught up with indian habit of twisting statement.

 

[leonblack08]

It wasn't Channel I's journalists, who only filmed the videos but also the other lots. Entire series of RAKTE RANJITO was even in ***************. But the owner of it, who apparently became a liar, deceiver and an exaggerator to the core conveniently, changed the tone. And for info. Alleged ownership of CRORES, Channel 1 by Tariq Zia was based on murkiness like Saddam hatching on WMD and OBL pulling 9/11 off from cave.

Now, I don't think that you even care what prejudice is or what disseminating truth since flip/flop in your posts are evident. And in what area BNP has failed more than AL? Name one, please? If conniving infiltrators of AL hasn't networked in military and intelligent agencies with foreign murderers of Muslims to make it as THE WORST OF WORSE traitorous mercenary forces then you would know how many million lie they have produced under the VENEER OF EMERGENCY to put WHOLE SALE CORRUPT tag on BNP, JI’s leaders. Today GMUA, ERSHAD and HANIF as the forms of new Mir Jafar, Mir Sadik, and Miron are claiming new SHIRAJ like TARTIQ corrupts that too resemble the aftermath of PLASHI, which cost us 190 years of enslavement and you are siding with them? Shame on you again. Finally you are an opportunist, 'parrot of timing' if you knowingly give pathological criminals, traitors chances to institutionalize crime in the whole country to see how they fare again. We have seen how they have fared for years and only fool or criminal/shallow actor would repeat it. Are you one of them?

From your location I can see you are from New York,correct me if I am wrong.
In that case I am aware of the circumstances in BD better than you,because I am seeing everything fresh whereas you are getting news of BD that too depends on from what type of media you are getting the news.
Obviously you just saw one side of the coin.

Tarek Zia's father,President Zia ur Rahman was not corrupt and hence he did not have that much of wealth.How come Tarek Zia who was expelled from BAF Shaheen college,become the owner of so much wealth??
Be it Dandy Dyeing or Channel 1 or many more.
Do you know Malaysian Govt. blocked him to enter because he was carrying 17 bags full of dollars.This news was later oppressed with accuracy.
Many senior BNP leaders didn't like Tarek as he was so corrupt.Now don't tell me to get a proof.
He didn't use to behave well with the Senior army generals,often calling them by their names and calling "tui","tora".The result of it he suffered dearly.He was beaten brutally by Army in the custody.I know as my cousine is in BAF.
About the proof of his deeds.Don't you understand there was a deal between army generals and Khaleda zia,all those meetings before election....remember??Those were for the release of Tarek and Koko.

Now you call me opportunists or anything,I give a ******.I know what I am .

 

[M_Saint]

F-7 BG better than Mig-29??Is it the biggest joke of the year??You are making lame excuses mr.Know it all.As far as I know R-73,R-27 and R-77 are used in BAF.Which is enough.
Migs form the backbone of our air force.
Just because you saw pictures of Mig-29s with no missiles does not mean we do not use any.Who knows may be you saw Mig-29UB the trainer version of mig-29,BAF has 2 of these.
Furthermore,F-7 BG and Mig-29 both have different roles.
F-7 BG is air guard and Mig-29 is for air supremacy and exceptional in dog fighting.So comparing them at first place is a mistake.

A potent Toyota Camry Camry is better than engine less Mercedes, wouldn't you agree? Our Mig-29s were already used when those were purchased and were grounded for years. It was BNP GOVT that re-negotiated the deal and made them flyable. Now, let me tell you one thing, every defence purchase has to be detailed out unlike what BDMILITARY (AKA amcc AKA Roh Afza AKA Gripen59 AK 50 other false names according to Maruf of BDSDF) tells others. Having said that I want to ask what are the serial numbers of R-73, R-77 etc? Furthermore, our Migs aren't even close to a position to make them SMT standard. Then how are they BVR capable? What Asique tells us are outright lie and exaggeration, which infect don't serve us but make us fools and who is he deceiving, anyway? By any standard F-7 BGs are very good in point defence. IND retrofitted 125 of its old Mig-21s with ISROs avionics, electronics whilest ours came with better condition initially than Indians. Infect F-7BGs were celebrated as poor man's F-16s. So, discounting them as vintage isn't rational IMHO.

 

[Raquib]

Possession of the Bangladesh Air Force:

3 Bell 206L LongRanger
12 Bell 212
4 C-130B Hercules
4 Cessna 152
2 Cessna 337F
12 Cessna T-37B
22 Chengdu F-7MG/F-7M
7 Chengdu FT-7B
8 L-39ZA Albatros
12 Nanchang A-5C Fantan
36 Nanchang CJ-6
10 Shenyang FT-6 (MiG-19)
3 An-26
3 An-32
15 Mi-17
6 MiG-29
2 MiG-29UB